---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 07/21/09: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:41 AM - Re: gps wanted (Richard Seiders) 2. 07:24 AM - RV-7A Quickbuild Kit for Sale (Tim Keen) 3. 12:19 PM - RV Pilots at WHP? (Robin Marks) 4. 12:54 PM - Re: gps wanted (Mike Kellems) 5. 01:09 PM - Re: gps wanted (ACTIVE NZ - Andrew) 6. 02:20 PM - Re: gps wanted (Mike Kellems) 7. 03:05 PM - Re: gps wanted (thomas sargent) 8. 08:51 PM - Re: Flap Skins Too Short? (Matt Dralle) 9. 10:07 PM - Customer Service Report - Lightspeed Aviation (Richard Crosley) 10. 10:36 PM - Lycoming - major overhaul - FAA Requirement? (rveighta@comcast.net) 11. 11:07 PM - Re: Lycoming - major overhaul - FAA Requirement? (Bruce Gray) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:56 AM PST US From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted I have a Lowrance 100 you can have for $100 and Ill ship it to you at my cost dick seiders At 05:28 PM 7/20/2009, you wrote: >In the years I've been building (and not flying) >my ancient Magellan became so obsolete that I >can't buy database cartridges for it any >more. I stupidly passed up the chance to but a >Lowrance 600c cheap. For several weeks Spruce >and a few other places were selling them for >$300. They're back up to nearly $500 >everywhere now. The Bendix AV8OR looks good, >but it's $619 at Spruce - right at my pain threshold. > >Perhaps one of you folks who just upgraded to >the latest Garmin xxx for big bucks would like >to recover a bit by selling your old GPS? > >-- >Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:24:45 AM PST US From: Tim Keen Subject: RV-List: RV-7A Quickbuild Kit for Sale I have an RV-7A QB kit for sale. Got married, bought a house, moved twice, new job, and simply have no time to finish this remarkable aircraft (and frankly, no money either). The empennage is complete, including the new, larger rudder. The QB wings are complete (minus the one skin that Van's leaves off), and still in the shipping crate, as are the ailerons and flaps. Some minor progress has been made on the QB fuselage (seats completed, baggage area done, etc.), but it's almost exactly as it would come from Van's. It's ready for a new builder to install systems (electrical, brake lines, fuel lines, etc). This is a slider canopy model. I have all plans/drawings, all the parts from Van's (cataloged), and a builder's log and photos that can go with it to the new owner. All you would need to complete the airframe is a finish kit from Van's. All of this would run about $25k from Van's plus shipping. I'm asking $20k OBO. But wait, there's more. In my eagerness early on this project, I bought a Blue Mountain Avionics EFIS/One system. It's still brand new in the box. The hardware is a generation behind the one currently being offered, but has all the same features (3D terrain and all). I'd like to get $8k for this (half the cost of new), or I'd take $25K for the system and QB kit combined. This is about a $15k savings over ordering a new QB kit and EFIS/One. I live in St. Louis, MO. Tim Keen 314-503-1624 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:19:57 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV Pilots at WHP? From: "Robin Marks" QXJlIHRoZXJlIGFueSBSViBwaWxvdHMgJiBidWlsZGVycyBhdCBXSFA/IA0KSSBrbm93IEkgaGF2 ZSBzcG9rZW4gd2l0aCBhIGZldyBidXQgZGlkbuKAmXQgd3JpdGUgYW55IGNvbnRhY3QgaW5mbyBk b3duLg0KDQpJIHdvdWxkIGxvdmUgdG8gY29ubmVjdCBhZ2FpbiBhcyBJIGFuIG5vdyBmbHlpbmcg cmVndWxhcmx5IGludG8gV0hQIGZvciBleHRlbmRlZCBzdGF5cyBhbmQgd291bGQgcmVhbGx5IGFw cHJlY2lhdGUgc29tZSBsb2NhbCByZWNvbW1lbmRhdGlvbnMgJiB0aXBzLiBQbHVzIGdlbmVyYWwg UlYgc3R1ZmYuDQoNCiANCg0KUm9iaW5AUGFpbnRUaGVXZWIuY29tDQoNCjgwNS44MDEuODU1MA0K DQogDQoNClJvYmluDQoNClJWLTQgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgU29sZA0KDQpSVi02QSAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBTb2xkDQoNClJWLTEwICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBGbHlpbmcN Cg0KUlYtOEEgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgRW5naW5lIGh1bmcNCg0K ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:54:57 PM PST US From: Mike Kellems Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted Tom, how about a Garmin 196 for $350..Works great have the remote antenna,y oke mount, power supply.Etc....I upgraded to a 396..... Mike Kellems RV3 74TX Life is Short Fly Fast --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Richard Seiders wrote: From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted I have a Lowrance 100 you can have for $100 and Ill ship it to you at my co st dick seiders At 05:28 PM 7/20/2009, you wrote: > In the years I've been building (and not flying) my ancient Magellan beca me so obsolete that I can't buy database cartridges for it any more.=C2- I stupidly passed up the chance to but a Lowrance 600c cheap.=C2- For sev eral weeks Spruce and a few other places were selling them for $300.=C2- They're back up to nearly $500 everywhere now. =C2- The Bendix AV8OR look s good, but it's $619 at Spruce - right at my pain threshold. > > Perhaps one of you folks who just upgraded to the latest Garmin xxx for b ig bucks would like to recover a bit by selling your old GPS? > > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly > Do Not Archive le, List Admin. =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:09:31 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: gps wanted From: "ACTIVE NZ - Andrew" Mike, I'm in the same position as Tom. I'll go #2 to Tom, of course, but if he doesn't want your 196 I'd be pleased to take it. If he does, any of you fellas in with GPS's to spare, please feel free to email me offlist... andrew@activenewzealand.com Sorry, couldn't find Mike's email to send this offlist DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Mike Kellems Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted Tom, how about a Garmin 196 for $350..Works great have the remote antenna,yoke mount, power supply.Etc....I upgraded to a 396..... Mike Kellems RV3 74TX Life is Short Fly Fast --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Richard Seiders wrote: From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted I have a Lowrance 100 you can have for $100 and Ill ship it to you at my cost dick seiders At 05:28 PM 7/20/2009, you wrote: > In the years I've been building (and not flying) my ancient Magellan became so obsolete that I can't buy database cartridges for it any more.=C2- I stupidly passed up the chance to but a Lowrance 600c cheap.=C2- For several weeks Spruce and a few other places were selling them for $300.=C2- They're back up to nearly $500 everywhere now. =C2- The Bendix AV8OR looks good, but it's $619 at Spruce - right at my pain threshold. > > Perhaps one of you folks who just upgraded to the latest Garmin xxx for big bucks would like to recover a bit by selling your old GPS? > > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly > Do Not Archive le, List Admin. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:20:16 PM PST US From: Mike Kellems Subject: RE: RV-List: gps wanted Andrew, Sure, I'll give Tom a chance to respond first though since he start ed this. Thanks,MIke- kellemsm@yahoo.com Mike Kellems RV3 74TX Life is Short Fly Fast --- On Tue, 7/21/09, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew wrote: From: ACTIVE NZ - Andrew Subject: RE: RV-List: gps wanted Mike, I'm in the same position as Tom. I'll go #2 to Tom, of course, but if he doesn't want your 196 I'd be pleased to take it. If he does, any of you fellas in with GPS's to spare, please feel free to email me offlist... andrew@activenewzealand.com Sorry, couldn't find Mike's email to send this offlist DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Mike Kellems Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 8:00 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted Tom, how about a Garmin 196 for $350..Works great have the remote antenna,y oke mount, power supply.Etc....I upgraded to a 396..... Mike Kellems RV3 74TX Life is Short Fly Fast --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Richard Seiders wrote: From: Richard Seiders Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted I have a Lowrance 100 you can have for $100 and Ill ship it to you at my co st dick seiders At 05:28 PM 7/20/2009, you wrote: > In the years I've been building (and not flying) my ancient Magellan beca me so obsolete that I can't buy database cartridges for it any more.=C2- I stupidly passed up the chance to but a Lowrance 600c cheap.=C2- For sev eral weeks Spruce and a few other places were selling them for $300.=C2- They're back up to nearly $500 everywhere now. =C2- The Bendix AV8OR look s good, but it's $619 at Spruce - right at my pain threshold. > > Perhaps one of you folks who just upgraded to the latest Garmin xxx for b ig bucks would like to recover a bit by selling your old GPS? > > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly > Do Not Archive le, List Admin. ----- =0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:42 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted From: thomas sargent Mike: I'll pass on the 196. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Mike Kellems wrote: > Andrew, Sure, I'll give Tom a chance to respond first though since he > started this. Thanks,MIke > kellemsm@yahoo.com > > Mike Kellems > RV3 74TX > Life is Short Fly Fast > > --- On *Tue, 7/21/09, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew * wrote: > > > From: ACTIVE NZ - Andrew > Subject: RE: RV-List: gps wanted > To: rv-list@matronics.com, rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 3:10 PM > > Mike, I'm in the same position as Tom. I'll go #2 to Tom, of course, but > if he doesn't want your 196 I'd be pleased to take it. If he does, any of > you fellas in with GPS's to spare, please feel free to email me offlist.. .. > > andrew@activenewzealand.com > > Sorry, couldn't find Mike's email to send this offlist > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Mike Kellems > Sent: Wed 7/22/2009 8:00 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted > > Tom, how about a Garmin 196 for $350..Works great have the remote > antenna,yoke mount, power supply.Etc.....I upgraded to a 396..... > > Mike Kellems > RV3 74TX > Life is Short Fly Fast > > --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Richard Seiders wrote: > > > From: Richard Seiders > Subject: Re: RV-List: gps wanted > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 7:38 AM > > > > I have a Lowrance 100 you can have for $100 and Ill ship it to you at my > cost > dick seiders > > > At 05:28 PM 7/20/2009, you wrote: > > In the years I've been building (and not flying) my ancient Magellan > became so obsolete that I can't buy database cartridges for it any more. =C3=82 I > stupidly passed up the chance to but a Lowrance 600c cheap.=C3=82 For se veral > weeks Spruce and a few other places were selling them for $300.=C3=82 Th ey're > back up to nearly $500 everywhere now. =C3=82 The Bendix AV8OR looks goo d, but > it's $619 at Spruce - right at my pain threshold. > > > > Perhaps one of you folks who just upgraded to the latest Garmin xxx for > big bucks would like to recover a bit by selling your old GPS? > > > > -- > > Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly > > > > > Do Not Archive > > le, List Admin. > > > * > > =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com > llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > * > =========== nics.com/Navigator?RV-List =========== =========== com/contribution =========== > * > > -- Tom Sargent ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:09 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Re: RV-List: Flap Skins Too Short? At 04:57 PM 7/19/2009 Sunday, you wrote: > >Dear Listers, > >Please see the attached photo taken from the underside of my RV-8. I was going to cut the bottom flap skin to match the diagonal of the fuselage skin per the "View E-E Flaps Fairing" on DGW 80. But, it appears that the aft portion of the flap skin was cut too short by the QB builders. Note that the front part seems to be exactly the right length and that diagonal cut will clip just perfectly. But on the aft skin of the flap, it is cut off about 2" too short to continue the diagonal line. Since the fuselage side skin is curving up right there, this will act like a giant air scoop. The flaps appear to be mounted in the correct position, left/right as they are the required 3/16" from the ailerons. > >The left side is exactly the same as the right side as shown in the picture. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks! > >Matt Dralle >RV-8 #82880 N998RV >FWF Is Right Around The Corner!! Okay, so I looked at Van's suggestion and modified it a bit, and came up with the fairings shown in the pictures. Pretty simple, but took some careful planning to make sure the angles and fit were good. They look really sweet, if I do say so myself... Totally seal up the bottom. The rivet shop heads don't bump the bottom skin because of the angles. FYI Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV FWF is so close I can taste it... ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:34 PM PST US From: "Richard Crosley" Subject: RV-List: Customer Service Report - Lightspeed Aviation I want to relay my experience with Lightspeed Aviation customer service. About three years ago, when I finished my RV8, I was in the market for headsets. My wife didn't want one that went over her head and messed up her hair so we got a Lightspeed Mach1. Worked great and she loved it. On our last breakfast run she dropped the Mach1 on the floor of the airplane, when she picked it up it got caught on something and pulled the mic off the boom. I could not find my receipt or any paperwork on the headset. So I got Lightspeeds phone number off the web site and called their customer service. I told her we broke it and needed it fixed, she was very nice and gave me a hardware return number and took my info. They also sent an email with the same info. I mailed the Mach1 off and got another email when they received it. Expecting a call with the cost to repair it, I was surprised to get another email saying it was in the mail back to me and a tracking number. I week to the day I received, not a repaired headset but, a new one in a new case at NO charge. I have nothing to do with the Lightspeed folks but I was so impressed with there product and their customer service that I thought somebody should know. Rich Crosley RV8 - N948RC - L00 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:36:22 PM PST US From: rveighta@comcast.net Subject: RV-List: Lycoming - major overhaul - FAA Requirement? Listers, someone recently told me the FAA requires that Lycoming engines ar e required to undergo a major overhaul after a maximum of 15 years in service in order for them to be considered airworthy. =C2-Anyone aware of anything like this?=C2- I couldn't find this in the archives. Walt Shipley=C2-=C2-=C2-=C2- ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:25 PM PST US From: "Bruce Gray" Subject: RE: RV-List: Lycoming - major overhaul - FAA Requirement? The short answer is; Experimental aircraft - NO Part 91 Aircraft - NO Part 135 Aircraft - Factory recommendations (SB's) required, probably YES. Bruce www.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rveighta@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:28 AM Subject: RV-List: Lycoming - major overhaul - FAA Requirement? Listers, someone recently told me the FAA requires that Lycoming engines are required to undergo a major overhaul after a maximum of 15 years in service in order for them to be considered airworthy. Anyone aware of anything like this? I couldn't find this in the archives. 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