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1. 06:17 AM - BendixKing GPS - AV80R (L Klingmuller)
2. 06:32 AM - Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R (JFLEISC@aol.com)
3. 07:18 AM - Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R (MacDonald Doug)
4. 07:18 AM - Re: Another one joins the fleet! (Charles Rowbotham)
5. 07:18 AM - Alternator output fuse (George Inman 204 287 8334)
6. 08:17 AM - Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R (David Maib)
7. 08:25 AM - Wind noise from vents (Corey Crawford)
8. 08:44 AM - Re: Alternator output fuse (RICHARD MILLER)
9. 09:04 AM - Re: Wind noise from vents (Mike Divan)
10. 09:10 AM - Re: Wind noise from vents (sheldon barrett)
11. 09:24 AM - Re: Wind noise from vents (Matt Dralle)
12. 09:44 AM - Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R (Mike Divan)
13. 12:15 PM - Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R (Panama Red)
14. 01:44 PM - RV-4 For Sale (Don Diehl)
15. 06:13 PM - Cowl Ideas? (J Riffel)
16. 07:07 PM - Re: Cowl Ideas? (scott bilinski)
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| Subject: | BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
The AV80R GPS apparently has been on the market for about one year.
Now BendixKing came out, first (?) at Oshkosh this year, with a BIG screen
model (AV80R ACE with all of the big $$ items.
My questions: has anybody on the list used or has knowledge with the
smaller (AV80R) model. I am somewhat concerned with the touch screen
feature in turbulence. Apparently this is the only (??) aviation GPS with
the touch screen feature.
SO, let=92s hear from YOUR input.
Thanks, Lothar RV-6A, 853 hrs.
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| Subject: | Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
In a message dated 8/7/2009 9:18:40 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
klingmuller@gmail.com writes:
I am somewhat concerned with the touch screen feature in turbulence.
Apparently this is the only (??) aviation GPS with the touch screen feature
I got one of those systems that used a PDA (with touch screen) for the
moving map. I sent it back for that exact reason. It was worthless in anything
but still air. Constantly hitting the wrong buttons while bouncing. If you
have "fat" fingers it wasn't even that good in still air. I prefer the
dedicated buttons on my Garmin(s) and particularly the dedicated software.
My Garmin car GPS with touch screen can even be difficult while moving but
at least I have the option (and used it) to pull over.
Jim
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| Subject: | Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
I haven't flown with my AV8OR in turbulence at all but there is a stylus built
into the back of the GPS that can be used if the accuracy of your finger is not
adaquate.
I am fairly happy with my AV8OR. The first batch had cheap switches for power
and menu buttons but Honeywell replaced the units under warranty.
Doug MacDonald
NW Ontario, Canada
RV-4 dreamer
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--- On Fri, 8/7/09, L Klingmuller <klingmuller@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: L Klingmuller <klingmuller@gmail.com>
> Subject: RV-List: BendixKing GPS - AV80R
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Received: Friday, August 7, 2009, 8:06 AM
> The AV80R GPS apparently has been on the
> market for about one year.
> Now BendixKing came out, first
> (?) at Oshkosh this year, with a BIG screen model (AV80R ACE
> with all of the big $$ items.
>
>
> My questions:
> has anybody on the list used or has knowledge with
> the smaller (AV80R) model. I am
> somewhat concerned with the touch screen feature in
> turbulence. Apparently this is the
> only (??) aviation GPS with the touch screen
> feature.
>
>
> SO, lets hear from YOUR
> input.
>
> Thanks, Lothar RV-6A, 853
> hrs.
>
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| Subject: | Another one joins the fleet! |
Paul=2C
CONGRATULATIONS and WELL DONE !!!
Chuck & Dave Rowbotham
RV-8A
> From: FisherPaulA@JohnDeere.com
> Subject: RV-List: Another one joins the fleet!
> >
> Last evening was perfect=2C clear skies=2C zero wind and not too hot. I c
ouldn't stand it anymore! My new RV-7A has had its airworthiness certificat
e for almost two weeks - it was time to fly!
>
> Paul A. Fisher
> Taylor Ridge=2C Illinois
> RV-7A N18PF - FLYING!!
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| Subject: | Alternator output fuse |
I am using a CAM 040AD alternator
Which is a DENSO alternator 18504-6220 .
It is a 40amp alternator,and the instructions say
to use a
40amp fuse on the output.
After about 15hrs on the RV-8 ,the breaker blew.
It seems I will need a larger breaker.What size are
others using
for output on a 40amp alternator??
--
George H. Inman
ghinman@mts.net
Home 204 287 8334
Cell 204 799 7062
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| Subject: | Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
No experience with this unit, but had some experience with a touch
screen EFB in my prior life. You are right to be concerned. Constant
problems with screen getting touched when you did not want it
touched. Stowing the unit in it's cabinet would often accidentally
touch the screen. Then when you pulled it out, you would be on
another screen and often had a hard time finding your way back to the
desired screen. We switched to a unit that used a stylus. That is not
a perfect solution either, but at least the screen stays where you
want it. Still can be a bit tough in turbulence. I am using a unit
that uses a stylus in my RV-10 now and am pretty happy with it.
David Maib
40559
On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:06 AM, L Klingmuller wrote:
The AV80R GPS apparently has been on the market for about one year.
Now BendixKing came out, first (?) at Oshkosh this year, with a BIG
screen model (AV80R ACE with all of the big $$ items.
My questions: has anybody on the list used or has knowledge with the
smaller (AV80R) model. I am somewhat concerned with the touch screen
feature in turbulence. Apparently this is the only (??) aviation GPS
with the touch screen feature.
SO, let=92s hear from YOUR input.
Thanks, Lothar RV-6A, 853 hrs.
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| Subject: | Wind noise from vents |
Hello everyone,
I've been flying a Diamond Star (DA40) lately, and it has the same
eyeball-vents-on-the-panel that my RV-7A has. When flying in the DA40 with
the vents open, I notice that my ANR headset softens the engine noise, but
the noise of the air coming out of the eyeball vents is really loud (loud
enough that I really need to crank the audio to hear comms). If the vents
are closed the noise is reduced dramatically.
For those of you flying, do you notice this same thing in your RV? Has
anyone done anything to combat this?
I've done all my training in newer Cessna 172s and 182s, where their outside
air vents hardly make any noise, even full open.
--
Corey Crawford
RV-7A (building)
Denver, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Alternator output fuse |
are you using did the breaker trip or did it fail. if it failed you probably had
a loose wire on it. if it just triped it did its job and you have foo much load.
rick
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net> wrote:
> From: George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
> Subject: RV-List: Alternator output fuse
> To: "RV-list matronics" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 7:21 AM
> George Inman 204 287 8334 <ghinman@mts.net>
>
>
>
> I am using a CAM 040AD
> alternator
> Which is a
> DENSO alternator 18504-6220 .
>
> It is a 40amp alternator,and the instructions
> say to use a
> 40amp fuse on the output.
>
> After about 15hrs on the RV-8 ,the breaker
> blew.
>
> It seems I will need a larger breaker.What size are
> others using
> for output on a 40amp alternator??
>
> --
> George H. Inman
> ghinman@mts.net
> Home 204 287 8334
> Cell 204 799 7062
>
>
> Forum -
> FAQ,
> - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
> List Contribution Web Site -
> -Matt
> Dralle, List Admin.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wind noise from vents |
You can increase the squelch. I notice it kind of depends where my vents are pointed
at (RV6). The more directly they are pointing at me the more I need to increase
the squelch. I have heard that others have put steel wool behind the vent
in the SCAT tubing. Playing with the squelch works for me most of the time.
I use the in your ear head set most of the time but if my better half is not
with me I sometimes use her ZULU.
Hope it helps.
Mike Divan
N64GH - RV6 (flying)
http://n64gh.blogspot.com/
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!
Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee
your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!
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From: Corey Crawford <corey.crawford@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 8:23:32 AM
Subject: RV-List: Wind noise from vents
Hello everyone,
I've been flying a Diamond Star (DA40) lately, and it has the same eyeball-vents-on-the-panel
that my RV-7A has. When flying in the DA40 with the vents open,
I notice that my ANR headset softens the engine noise, but the noise of the air
coming out of the eyeball vents is really loud (loud enough that I really need
to crank the audio to hear comms). If the vents are closed the noise is reduced
dramatically.
For those of you flying, do you notice this same thing in your RV? Has anyone done
anything to combat this?
I've done all my training in newer Cessna 172s and 182s, where their outside air
vents hardly make any noise, even full open.
--
Corey Crawford
RV-7A (building)
Denver, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Wind noise from vents |
I have wind noise In my RV6A with my (Van's big plastic) vents open
(lots of air)... Reduces when they are closed... Not loud wind noise as
you say in that I don't have to up the intercom volume... I have Bose
headsets.. Probably the noise in the various models of aircraft is due
to the amount/velocity of air rushing in...??
Sheldon Barrett
RV6A 560 hrs
----- Original Message -----
From: Corey Crawford
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:23 AM
Subject: RV-List: Wind noise from vents
Hello everyone,
I've been flying a Diamond Star (DA40) lately, and it has the same
eyeball-vents-on-the-panel that my RV-7A has. When flying in the DA40
with the vents open, I notice that my ANR headset softens the engine
noise, but the noise of the air coming out of the eyeball vents is
really loud (loud enough that I really need to crank the audio to hear
comms). If the vents are closed the noise is reduced dramatically.
For those of you flying, do you notice this same thing in your RV? Has
anyone done anything to combat this?
I've done all my training in newer Cessna 172s and 182s, where their
outside air vents hardly make any noise, even full open.
--
Corey Crawford
RV-7A (building)
Denver, CO
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| Subject: | Re: Wind noise from vents |
Sounds to me like your engine wasn't big enough... :-)
Matt
At 09:08 AM 8/7/2009 Friday, you wrote:
>I have wind noise In my RV6A with my (Van's big plastic) vents open (lots of air)...
Reduces when they are closed... Not loud wind noise as you say in that
I don't have to up the intercom volume... I have Bose headsets.. Probably the
noise in the various models of aircraft is due to the amount/velocity of air rushing
in...??
>
>Sheldon Barrett
>RV6A 560 hrs
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:corey.crawford@gmail.com>Corey Crawford
>To: <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com>rv-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 8:23 AM
>Subject: RV-List: Wind noise from vents
>
>Hello everyone,
>
>I've been flying a Diamond Star (DA40) lately, and it has the same eyeball-vents-on-the-panel
that my RV-7A has. When flying in the DA40 with the vents open,
I notice that my ANR headset softens the engine noise, but the noise of the
air coming out of the eyeball vents is really loud (loud enough that I really
need to crank the audio to hear comms). If the vents are closed the noise is reduced
dramatically.
>
>For those of you flying, do you notice this same thing in your RV? Has anyone
done anything to combat this?
>
>I've done all my training in newer Cessna 172s and 182s, where their outside air
vents hardly make any noise, even full open.
>
>--
>Corey Crawford
>RV-7A (building)
>Denver, CO
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| Subject: | Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
Lothar=0A=0AI use the Anywhere Map ATC (http://www.anywheremap.com/anywhere
map-atc.aspx ) which is a touch screen. Here is link where with there compa
rison of the ATC vs AV8OR vs Garmin 496/596. As for the touch screen (the A
TC is small like the AV8OR) usually not that big a deal. I use a mechanical
pencil to wright with and I use the eraser end on the touch screen. On occ
asion (I find not often) when I need a finer point I simple use the led end
(0.7 pencil). Also I find I really do not need to tap the screen that much
in flight. I have a Garmin 396 (second hand from Ebay) with XM WX and radi
o. The garmin has less wires for the WX. I like the ATC better for navigati
on. The reason airport information and frequencies and altitudes for airspa
ce are just one fat finger touch away vs multiple button pushes. They both
have pluses and minues but for navagation I like the ATC the majority of th
e time.=0A=0AO - one BIG plus for the ATC is $119 (or $400 lifetime) a year
gets you updated ALL YEAR long. TFR, airspace everything. Add a little bit
more (I did) you get fuel prices. TFR's and fuel are updated frequently (n
ot shire how often but at least a couple times a week). I hook the ATC up t
o the computer before I fly and I got fuel prices on the fly. It is great.
They just came out with a new program that puts sectionals on the ATC. I or
dered it let you know how it works if you are interested.=0A=0AOK all that
just to say - the touch screen works for me most of the time not a problem
(the AV8OR is probably the same as far as the touch screen goes). But like
anything there is good and bad. Find one and play with it. If you are near
SoCal or within a hour or 2 of flying with someplace good to eat I will be
glad to fly out and let you check out the Anywhere Map ATC (I have no relat
ion to them except I use one). =0A=0A Mike Divan=0AN64GH - RV6 (flying) =0A
http://n64gh.blogspot.com/=0AFREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDI
ER FOR YOURS!=0ARemember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost
Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com
>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, August 7, 2009 8:08:01 AM=0AS
ubject: Re: RV-List: BendixKing GPS - AV80R=0A=0ANo experience with this un
it, but had some experience with a touch screen EFB in my prior life. You a
re right to be concerned. Constant problems with screen getting touched whe
n you did not want it touched. Stowing the unit in it's cabinet would often
accidentally touch the screen. Then when you pulled it out, you would be o
n another screen and often had a hard time finding your way back to the des
ired screen. We switched to a unit that used a stylus. That is not a perfec
t solution either, but at least the screen stays where you want it. Still c
an be a bit tough in turbulence. I am using a unit that uses a stylus in my
RV-10 now and am pretty happy with it.=0A=0ADavid Maib=0A40559=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0AOn Aug 7, 2009, at 9:06 AM, L Klingmuller wrote:=0A=0AThe AV80R GPS
apparently has been on the market for about one year.=0ANow BendixKing came
out, first (?) at Oshkosh this year, with a BIG screen model (AV80R ACE wi
th all of the big $$ items.=0A =0AMy questions: has anybody on the list us
ed or has knowledge with the smaller (AV80R) model. I am somewhat concerne
d with the touch screen feature in turbulence. Apparently this is the only
(??) aviation GPS with the touch screen feature.=0A =0ASO, let=99s h
ear from YOUR input.=0A =0AThanks, Lothar RV-6A, 853 hrs.=0A href="http:
//www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?R
V-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href
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ution =0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: BendixKing GPS - AV80R |
Great review, thanks for the Info
Bob
RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West'
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Divan
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: BendixKing GPS - AV80R
Lothar
I use the Anywhere Map ATC
(http://www.anywheremap.com/anywheremap-atc.aspx ) which is a touch
screen. Here is link where with there comparison of the ATC vs AV8OR vs
Garmin 496/596. As for the touch screen (the ATC is small like the
AV8OR) usually not that big a deal. I use a mechanical pencil to wright
with and I use the eraser end on the touch screen. On occasion (I find
not often) when I need a finer point I simple use the led end (0.7
pencil). Also I find I really do not need to tap the screen that much in
flight. I have a Garmin 396 (second hand from Ebay) with XM WX and
radio. The garmin has less wires for the WX. I like the ATC better for
navigation. The reason airport information and frequencies and altitudes
for airspace are just one fat finger touch away vs multiple button
pushes. They both have pluses and minues but for navagation I like the
ATC the majority of the time.
O - one BIG plus for the ATC is $119 (or $400 lifetime) a year gets
you updated ALL YEAR long. TFR, airspace everything. Add a little bit
more (I did) you get fuel prices. TFR's and fuel are updated frequently
(not shire how often but at least a couple times a week). I hook the ATC
up to the computer before I fly and I got fuel prices on the fly. It is
great. They just came out with a new program that puts sectionals on the
ATC. I ordered it let you know how it works if you are interested.
OK all that just to say - the touch screen works for me most of the
time not a problem (the AV8OR is probably the same as far as the touch
screen goes). But like anything there is good and bad. Find one and play
with it. If you are near SoCal or within a hour or 2 of flying with
someplace good to eat I will be glad to fly out and let you check out
the Anywhere Map ATC (I have no relation to them except I use one).
Mike Divan
N64GH - RV6 (flying)
http://n64gh.blogspot.com/
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!
Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that
guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 8:08:01 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: BendixKing GPS - AV80R
No experience with this unit, but had some experience with a touch
screen EFB in my prior life. You are right to be concerned. Constant
problems with screen getting touched when you did not want it touched.
Stowing the unit in it's cabinet would often accidentally touch the
screen. Then when you pulled it out, you would be on another screen and
often had a hard time finding your way back to the desired screen. We
switched to a unit that used a stylus. That is not a perfect solution
either, but at least the screen stays where you want it. Still can be a
bit tough in turbulence. I am using a unit that uses a stylus in my
RV-10 now and am pretty happy with it.
David Maib
40559
On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:06 AM, L Klingmuller wrote:
The AV80R GPS apparently has been on the market for about one year.
Now BendixKing came out, first (?) at Oshkosh this year, with a BIG
screen model (AV80R ACE with all of the big $$ items.
My questions: has anybody on the list used or has knowledge with the
smaller (AV80R) model. I am somewhat concerned with the touch screen
feature in turbulence. Apparently this is the only (??) aviation GPS
with the touch screen feature.
SO, let=99s hear from YOUR input.
Thanks, Lothar RV-6A, 853 hrs.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.
com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.m
atronics.com
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ontribution
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I've got 80 hrs on my RV7A - and I've come to Hate my cowl.
I followed the plans and put hinge fasteners on the firewall and where the
top/bottom clam halfs meet. The firewall hinges are fine. But the top/bottom
clam halves hinges just aren't cutting the mustard. Getting the clam halfs
to mate seems to require a large unsightly seam - so the top/bottom hinge
teeth can move in/out as necessary to insert the pin. The hinge teeth seem
to bend off-center at the slightest bump. When I try to bend them back into
line, the hinge material fatigues. I'm also worried that the hinges pins
will vibrate and chafe the paint if I get the seam "tight" enough to look
good. (Thank goodness I'm still waiting on the paint shop and can change the
design).
Anyone out there redesigned the top/bottom clam half fastening design with
different fasteners - and happy with the result? (Pictures would be helpful)
Thanks,
"Jerry"
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Where are you located?
You did use the smaller dia hinge pin right?
Scott
=0ARV-8a
--- On Fri, 8/7/09, J Riffel <riffeljl@gmail.com> wrote:
From: J Riffel <riffeljl@gmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: Cowl Ideas?
I've got 80 hrs on my RV7A - and I've come to Hate my cowl.-=0A-=0AI fo
llowed the plans and put hinge fasteners on the firewall and-where the to
p/bottom clam halfs meet. The firewall hinges are fine. But the top/bottom
clam halves hinges-just aren't cutting the mustard.-Getting the clam ha
lfs to mate seems to require a large unsightly seam - so the top/bottom hin
ge teeth can move in/out as necessary to insert the pin. The hinge teeth se
em to bend off-center-at the slightest bump. When I try to bend them back
into line, the hinge material fatigues. I'm also worried that the hinges p
ins will vibrate and chafe the paint- if I get the seam "tight" enough to
look good. (Thank goodness I'm still waiting on the paint shop and can cha
nge the design).=0A=0A-=0AAnyone out there redesigned the top/bottom clam
half fastening design with different fasteners - and happy with the result
?-(Pictures would be helpful)=0A-=0AThanks,=0A"Jerry"=0A=0A
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