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1. 06:25 AM - Re: Large attachments (Tim Bryan)
2. 10:15 AM - Re: Large attachments (John Cox)
3. 10:54 AM - Re: Large attachments (Timothy E. Cone)
4. 11:11 AM - Re: Large attachments (Linn Walters)
5. 11:45 AM - Torque Wrench Extensions (Matt Dralle)
6. 11:53 AM - Re: Second hand GPS WANTED TO BUY (David Leonard)
7. 12:41 PM - Re: Large attachments (Linn Walters)
8. 12:52 PM - Re: Torque Wrench Extensions (Linn Walters)
9. 12:53 PM - Re: Torque Wrench Extensions (Kevin Horton)
10. 03:42 PM - IO-390 Governor Cable Routing... (Matt Dralle)
11. 04:14 PM - Re: Torque Wrench Extensions (Kelly McMullen)
12. 04:41 PM - brake drag (charlie heathco)
13. 04:53 PM - Re: brake drag (Ralph E. Capen)
14. 04:54 PM - Re: brake drag (Kelly McMullen)
15. 05:11 PM - Re: brake drag (Ralph E. Capen)
16. 05:41 PM - Re: Torque Wrench Extensions (Mike Robertson)
17. 07:50 PM - Re: Large attachments (Charlie England)
18. 08:02 PM - Re: brake drag (Tailgummer@aol.com)
19. 08:39 PM - Re: brake drag (Ralph E. Capen)
20. 09:19 PM - Re: Large attachments (Jerry Springer)
21. 09:19 PM - Off topics WAS: Large attachments, Check This Out, etc. (Ralph Finch)
22. 09:33 PM - Re: IO-390 Governor Cable Routing... (William Gill)
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Subject: | Large attachments |
I have to say I am quite surprised by the responses on this list. Photos
are not really enhanced by a resolution over about 76 when passed around in
email or posted on the web. I have high speed Internet but still don't see
any point in consuming my bandwidth or all the shared bandwidth for large
photos. I get a bit annoyed when sitting in an airport connected to my
blackberry on a slow connection trying to get a work email and then somebody
sends a 8Meg photo in a joke while I have to stop and change my email
settings, or log in via a web page to go get rid of it first.
Just because your car goes 120 mph doesn't make it OK to do so. Really we
should all get a bit more educated about the technology and not just assume
because a huge file fits it is the right thing to do and the few who can't
are in the wrong. We have at least some obligation to be realistic about
what we are doing. The software to fix the issue is readily available for
free. I take all my photos in high resolution in the event I want to print
them, but resize everything before posting on the Net.
Sorry, I never rant on this list and don't like it, but like I said the
responses have surprised me a bit.
Tim Bryan
RV-6 Flying
N616TBover 120 hours now
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Horton
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 5:50 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
> I am sympathetic to the issues caused by dial-up, having spent too
> many years on that service. But, now that Matt is allowing
> attachments on his e-mail lists, it is a fact of life that some of
> those attachments are going to be larger than a dial-up user will
> want. It isn't reasonable to expect that every user will manage to
> remember to think of the poor dial-up users every time.
>
> Just complaining on the list is not going to do the job, as there is
> zero chance you will change everyone's behaviour. If you want to
> solve the problem for good, you'll need to do it yourself, rather than
> depending on other people to solve your problem for you. Most e-mail
> programs have options that allow the user to specify a maximum
> attachment size that will be downloaded. If you really want to solve
> this problem, and your e-mail client doesn't have this option, maybe
> it is time to switch to another e-mail program.
>
> Kevin Horton
>
> On 15 Aug 2009, at 10:28, Ron Lee wrote:
>
> >
> > Very condescending John. It is also easy for a poster to reduce the
> > picture
> > size to one that is not problematic.
> >
> > Ron Lee
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cox"
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:43 AM
> > Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's
> >> leather
> >> seats post but you could be right.
> >>
> >> The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use
> by
> >> the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain
> >> strapped
> >> with late 20th century bandwidth. Choices abound. For some it's an
> >> issue of cost. They do not see the additional value. There are
> >> several
> >> services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request
> >> telephone uplink technology. It can work as far north as Alaska
> >> and I
> >> live in a forest.
> >>
> >> I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus
> >> rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your
> >> photos. One service might be for members to use the 19th century
> >> telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and
> >> string
> >> which are clearly run too tight with their computers. ;-)
> >>
> >> Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds.
> >> The
> >> service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony. Just a
> >> contrarian perspective.
> >>
> >> Keep the information flowing.
> >>
> >> John
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
> >>
> >>
> >> I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2
> >> (one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant
> >> discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a
> >> budget
> >> (not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images
> >> even
> >> further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to
> >> see
> >> detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.
> >>
> >> Robin
> >> Do Not Archive
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> >> Springer
> >> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:02 PM
> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
> >>
> >>
> >> From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the
> >> RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.
> >>
> >> Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink
> >> go?
> >> ;-)
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Large attachments |
The beauty of the picture size is resolution and utility after receipt.
Once adulterated, the picture can never serve the same value. As Kevin
mentioned, software can assist those who have the ole technology and
rightfully chose to remain behind. I have yet to hear the compelling
reason for dumbing down a great photo or redacting a valued technical
report for smaller file size over an electronic highway. Maybe each
image should be charged a fee for pixels.
I do acknowledge your right to stay with what you enjoy. It was not
meant condescending only too true that there are always those that want
the runners or racers to slow down the action so they can enjoy it at a
more leisure pace. Life has always tended to unfold just a bit faster
that we desire.
I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those pictures and now
have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs. When shared, people go wow,
I had no idea all that information in each picture, then some go, why is
that one so poor. The extra $30 per month for the web service has been
priceless. I do still remember 300baud telephony handset modems and the
thrill of a Kelsey Hayes that could push the envelope to 900. I
wouldn't want my cardiologist using a redacted digital image of my heart
scan when the time comes to renew a medical comes up. Maybe then he
will find I don't have a heart.
If you want to try offline, I will gladly assist readers in providing a
range of cheap technologies available. Sprint 4G for my laptop in
airports has been another boon. I still have my old Motorola BRICK
cellphone and rotary dial phones for waxing nostalgically.
John
Do not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
Very condescending John. It is also easy for a poster to reduce the
picture
size to one that is not problematic.
Ron Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
> Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's leather
> seats post but you could be right.
>
> The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use by
> the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain
strapped
> with late 20th century bandwidth. Choices abound. For some it's an
> issue of cost. They do not see the additional value. There are
several
> services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request
> telephone uplink technology. It can work as far north as Alaska and I
> live in a forest.
>
> I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus
> rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your
> photos. One service might be for members to use the 19th century
> telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and
string
> which are clearly run too tight with their computers. ;-)
>
> Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds. The
> service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony. Just a
> contrarian perspective.
>
> Keep the information flowing.
>
> John
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
> I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2
> (one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant
> discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a
budget
> (not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images
even
> further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to
see
> detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.
>
> Robin
> Do Not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
Springer
> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:02 PM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
> From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the
> RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.
>
> Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink go?
> ;-)
>
> Jerry
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Large attachments |
Good gosh is there any RV content in this entire thread?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:13 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
> The beauty of the picture size is resolution and utility after receipt.
> Once adulterated, the picture can never serve the same value. As Kevin
> mentioned, software can assist those who have the ole technology and
> rightfully chose to remain behind. I have yet to hear the compelling
> reason for dumbing down a great photo or redacting a valued technical
> report for smaller file size over an electronic highway. Maybe each
> image should be charged a fee for pixels.
>
> I do acknowledge your right to stay with what you enjoy. It was not
> meant condescending only too true that there are always those that want
> the runners or racers to slow down the action so they can enjoy it at a
> more leisure pace. Life has always tended to unfold just a bit faster
> that we desire.
>
> I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those pictures and now
> have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs. When shared, people go wow,
> I had no idea all that information in each picture, then some go, why is
> that one so poor. The extra $30 per month for the web service has been
> priceless. I do still remember 300baud telephony handset modems and the
> thrill of a Kelsey Hayes that could push the envelope to 900. I
> wouldn't want my cardiologist using a redacted digital image of my heart
> scan when the time comes to renew a medical comes up. Maybe then he
> will find I don't have a heart.
>
> If you want to try offline, I will gladly assist readers in providing a
> range of cheap technologies available. Sprint 4G for my laptop in
> airports has been another boon. I still have my old Motorola BRICK
> cellphone and rotary dial phones for waxing nostalgically.
>
> John
> Do not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
> Very condescending John. It is also easy for a poster to reduce the
> picture
> size to one that is not problematic.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:43 AM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
>>
>> Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's leather
>> seats post but you could be right.
>>
>> The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use by
>> the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain
> strapped
>> with late 20th century bandwidth. Choices abound. For some it's an
>> issue of cost. They do not see the additional value. There are
> several
>> services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request
>> telephone uplink technology. It can work as far north as Alaska and I
>> live in a forest.
>>
>> I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus
>> rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your
>> photos. One service might be for members to use the 19th century
>> telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and
> string
>> which are clearly run too tight with their computers. ;-)
>>
>> Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds. The
>> service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony. Just a
>> contrarian perspective.
>>
>> Keep the information flowing.
>>
>> John
>> do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>> I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2
>> (one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant
>> discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a
> budget
>> (not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images
> even
>> further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to
> see
>> detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.
>>
>> Robin
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
> Springer
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:02 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>> From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the
>> RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.
>>
>> Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink go?
>> ;-)
>>
>> Jerry
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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Subject: | Re: Large attachments |
I already posted my views, but let me make some comments to John's
email. I have empathy for the dial-up guys and really do see their
point. I've been on both sides. "live with it" isn't really a good answer.
John Cox wrote:
>
> The beauty of the picture size is resolution and utility after receipt.
> Once adulterated, the picture can never serve the same value. As Kevin
> mentioned, software can assist those who have the ole technology and
> rightfully chose to remain behind. I have yet to hear the compelling
> reason for dumbing down a great photo or redacting a valued technical
> report for smaller file size over an electronic highway. Maybe each
> image should be charged a fee for pixels.
The only compelling reason is having some consideration for those with
slower dial-ups and for their (and my) storage capability. Most all the
pictures on this list are informational and a 640 X 480 picture serves
the purpose. I see no reason to send a huge picture that 1) you can't
see it on you screen without scrolling all over the place (and I realize
there are add-ons that will help out here)and 2)if the pic needs to be
cropped to get the desired resolution .... then do it before sending.
>
> I do acknowledge your right to stay with what you enjoy. It was not
> meant condescending only too true that there are always those that want
> the runners or racers to slow down the action so they can enjoy it at a
> more leisure pace. Life has always tended to unfold just a bit faster
> that we desire.
Some folks are just as happy with their dial-up connection, but want to
take a drink without the fire hose. It's their choice. And they may
not have a better option .... I don't know.
>
> I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those pictures and now
> have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs. When shared, people go wow,
> I had no idea all that information in each picture, then some go, why is
> that one so poor. The extra $30 per month for the web service has been
> priceless. I do still remember 300baud telephony handset modems and the
> thrill of a Kelsey Hayes that could push the envelope to 900. I
> wouldn't want my cardiologist using a redacted digital image of my heart
> scan when the time comes to renew a medical comes up. Maybe then he
> will find I don't have a heart.
Any picture that's sent "dumbed down" can be had pristine with a simple
request to the owner. I know why YOU want big pictures, and I agree
with you. Big pictures fits your needs, but they're not for everybody.
There's an alternative route for you to get the quality and mega-pixel
pictures, but none for the slow connection guys.
>
> If you want to try offline, I will gladly assist readers in providing a
> range of cheap technologies available. Sprint 4G for my laptop in
> airports has been another boon. I still have my old Motorola BRICK
> cellphone and rotary dial phones for waxing nostalgically.
I'm slowly getting mobile .... I use my iPAQ (primarily used for
Anywhere Map) when I can get a free hot spot ..... but I don't want to
pay for minutes on my cell phone. That takes bucks away from my
airplane account!!!
Just another perspective,
Linn
>
> John
> Do not Archive
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Subject: | Torque Wrench Extensions |
Well, now that I found my Hartzell installation manual (!), there appears to be
a need for a "special" tool that I don't have. Because the bolts for the prop
require and "end-wrench" of sorts to tighten, it presents somewhat of a problem
when trying to torque them. The manual shows an end-wrench looking thing
that has the 7/16" on one end and a 3/8" drive on the other end. I looked though
the Craftsman and Snapon web sites, but didn't find anything like this. Where
might I buy one?
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
FWF
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Subject: | Re: Second hand GPS WANTED TO BUY |
I have a Magellan sky star plus. The database is quite old and I am not
even sure if updates are available any longer (company went out of business-
but another company was selling updates as of several years ago). But it
would be a real entry level price. I paid almost $700. runs on 4 AA
batteries or cig lighter power. Works fine.
Would let it go for $150 including shipping.
Dave Leonard
wdleonard at gmail dot com
On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 1:16 PM, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew <andrew@nzactive.com>wrote:
> I'm keen on an affordable, older GPS if anyone has upgraded and has one
> just gathering dust. Was too slow for the last two on the list :)
>
> Doesn't need to be in perfect condition, does need to work (!). Any Garmin
> preferred but will consider anything out there...
>
> Off list email: andrew at activenewzealand dot com
>
> Andrew
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Dave Saylor
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:46 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics.com;
> aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Garmin 296 $350 with Gizmo
>
> Garmin 296 for sale. I bought it new, and it works great in the air and in
> the car. Lots of accessories: AirGizmo panel mount, car bean bag mount,
> yoke mount, external antenna, external speaker/power cord, 128M data card
> for driving that covers about half the U.S. at a time, AC power, owner's
> manual, more.
>
> $350 plus shipping
>
> --
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
>
> *
>
> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c*
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
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Subject: | Re: Large attachments |
Timothy E. Cone wrote:
>
> Good gosh is there any RV content in this entire thread?
Yes. It's here: "I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those
pictures and now have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs."
Sorry, couldn't resist!
Linn
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:13 AM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
>>
>> The beauty of the picture size is resolution and utility after receipt.
>> Once adulterated, the picture can never serve the same value. As Kevin
>> mentioned, software can assist those who have the ole technology and
>> rightfully chose to remain behind. I have yet to hear the compelling
>> reason for dumbing down a great photo or redacting a valued technical
>> report for smaller file size over an electronic highway. Maybe each
>> image should be charged a fee for pixels.
>>
>> I do acknowledge your right to stay with what you enjoy. It was not
>> meant condescending only too true that there are always those that want
>> the runners or racers to slow down the action so they can enjoy it at a
>> more leisure pace. Life has always tended to unfold just a bit faster
>> that we desire.
>>
>> I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those pictures and now
>> have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs. When shared, people go wow,
>> I had no idea all that information in each picture, then some go, why is
>> that one so poor. The extra $30 per month for the web service has been
>> priceless. I do still remember 300baud telephony handset modems and the
>> thrill of a Kelsey Hayes that could push the envelope to 900. I
>> wouldn't want my cardiologist using a redacted digital image of my heart
>> scan when the time comes to renew a medical comes up. Maybe then he
>> will find I don't have a heart.
>>
>> If you want to try offline, I will gladly assist readers in providing a
>> range of cheap technologies available. Sprint 4G for my laptop in
>> airports has been another boon. I still have my old Motorola BRICK
>> cellphone and rotary dial phones for waxing nostalgically.
>>
>> John
>> Do not Archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 AM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>> Very condescending John. It is also easy for a poster to reduce the
>> picture
>> size to one that is not problematic.
>>
>> Ron Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:43 AM
>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's leather
>>> seats post but you could be right.
>>>
>>> The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use by
>>> the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain
>> strapped
>>> with late 20th century bandwidth. Choices abound. For some it's an
>>> issue of cost. They do not see the additional value. There are
>> several
>>> services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request
>>> telephone uplink technology. It can work as far north as Alaska and I
>>> live in a forest.
>>>
>>> I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus
>>> rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your
>>> photos. One service might be for members to use the 19th century
>>> telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and
>> string
>>> which are clearly run too tight with their computers. ;-)
>>>
>>> Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds. The
>>> service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony. Just a
>>> contrarian perspective.
>>>
>>> Keep the information flowing.
>>>
>>> John
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>>>
>>>
>>> I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2
>>> (one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant
>>> discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a
>> budget
>>> (not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images
>> even
>>> further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to
>> see
>>> detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.
>>>
>>> Robin
>>> Do Not Archive
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
>> Springer
>>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:02 PM
>>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>>>
>>>
>>> From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the
>>> RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.
>>>
>>> Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink go?
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Subject: | Re: Torque Wrench Extensions |
I don't know if this will help: Harbor Freight (or Sears etc)has
crowfoot wrenches (94426) and they're on sale right now.
Linn
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Well, now that I found my Hartzell installation manual (!), there appears to
be a need for a "special" tool that I don't have. Because the bolts for the prop
require and "end-wrench" of sorts to tighten, it presents somewhat of a problem
when trying to torque them. The manual shows an end-wrench looking thing
that has the 7/16" on one end and a 3/8" drive on the other end. I looked though
the Craftsman and Snapon web sites, but didn't find anything like this.
Where might I buy one?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
> FWF
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Torque Wrench Extensions |
On 16-Aug-09, at 14:43 , Matt Dralle wrote:
> Well, now that I found my Hartzell installation manual (!), there
> appears to be a need for a "special" tool that I don't have.
> Because the bolts for the prop require and "end-wrench" of sorts to
> tighten, it presents somewhat of a problem when trying to torque
> them. The manual shows an end-wrench looking thing that has the
> 7/16" on one end and a 3/8" drive on the other end. I looked though
> the Craftsman and Snapon web sites, but didn't find anything like
> this. Where might I buy one?
You can cobble together an equivalent device. I used a very short
(about 3" long) combination wrench, a bolt, a washer and nut and some
duct tape. The washer is put over the bolt, then the nut is screwed
on tight. This is used to transfer the torque from the socket on the
torque wrench to the closed end of the combination wrench. Use some
duct tape to secure the socket, bolt, washer, nut and combination
wrench together. Of course you'll need to apply the standard
correction to the torque wrench setting to compensate for the extension.
--
Kevin Horton
RV-8
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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Subject: | IO-390 Governor Cable Routing... |
Hey, first I wanted to say thanks for the feedback on all my other questions!
So I ran the Governor cable today and it came out pretty nice and seems to work
well. The only thing that seems a little 'if-y' is how I had to route the cable
over the top of the oil sump. Is this SOP or should the cable be isolated
from the sump some how? I guess I could make a standoff bracket to hold it up
off the sump, but do I really need to? The cable is currently resting on the
sump.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
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Subject: | Re: Torque Wrench Extensions |
Known as a Crow's foot wrench. Craftsman will work. There are folks that
sell lower cost "Hartzell" prop wrenches. Check Avery, Cleaveland, etc.
Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>
> Well, now that I found my Hartzell installation manual (!), there appears to
be a need for a "special" tool that I don't have. Because the bolts for the prop
require and "end-wrench" of sorts to tighten, it presents somewhat of a problem
when trying to torque them. The manual shows an end-wrench looking thing
that has the 7/16" on one end and a 3/8" drive on the other end. I looked though
the Craftsman and Snapon web sites, but didn't find anything like this.
Where might I buy one?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
> FWF
>
>
>
>
>
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I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck and
change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and high
temp fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one answer
that only said check free movment on pins. main concern is keeping
fluitd from all running out and does spruce have the viton orings?
Charlie H/
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Charlie,
I couldn't get them from spruce when I got them - so I got a bunch. If
you can't find a pair, let me know - we'll work something out.
Meanwhile, I'll try to remember where I got mine......
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: charlie heathco
To: rv-list
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: RV-List: brake drag
I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck
and change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and
high temp fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one
answer that only said check free movment on pins. main concern is
keeping fluitd from all running out and does spruce have the viton
orings? Charlie H/
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Take compressed air blow gun, and apply very loosely to brake line
fitting, to blow the cylinder out of the caliper. All cautions about
having rag to catch it and very low pressure to prevent damage/injury.
charlie heathco wrote:
> I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck and
> change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and high
> temp fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one answer
> that only said check free movment on pins. main concern is keeping
> fluitd from all running out and does spruce have the viton
> orings? Charlie H/
>
> *
>
>
> *
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Maybe I can answer the question as it was asked - now that I read the
entire passage.
I changed mine over prior to filling them with fluid in the first place.
All I did was blow a little compressed air in and it popped out right
in my hand as I was holding the assembly together. It was a little
messy with the assembly fliud - but manageable.
HTH,
Ralph
----- Original Message -----
From: charlie heathco
To: rv-list
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 7:27 PM
Subject: RV-List: brake drag
I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck
and change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and
high temp fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one
answer that only said check free movment on pins. main concern is
keeping fluitd from all running out and does spruce have the viton
orings? Charlie H/
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Subject: | Torque Wrench Extensions |
MAC tools has the best one fro this application.
Mike Robertson
> Date: Sun=2C 16 Aug 2009 11:43:55 -0700
> To: rv8-list@matronics.com=3B rv-list@matronics.com
> From: dralle@matronics.com
> Subject: RV-List: Torque Wrench Extensions
>
>
>
> Well=2C now that I found my Hartzell installation manual (!)=2C there app
ears to be a need for a "special" tool that I don't have. Because the bolts
for the prop require and "end-wrench" of sorts to tighten=2C it presents s
omewhat of a problem when trying to torque them. The manual shows an end-wr
ench looking thing that has the 7/16" on one end and a 3/8" drive on the ot
her end. I looked though the Craftsman and Snapon web sites=2C but didn't f
ind anything like this. Where might I buy one?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Matt Dralle
> RV-8 #82880 N998RV
> http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
> FWF
>
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Subject: | Re: Large attachments |
John,
I realize that at least where I'm sitting that it's America & everyone
has the right to their own opinions & attitudes. I also realize that
email is an imperfect communication medium & the writer's intent may be
misinterpreted by the reader. Having said that, please allow me to let
you know how your recent posts read to me, and apparently to quite a few
other members.
What I read in your posts is the attitude of, "I ate well well tonight,
so there's no reason for anyone else in the world to be hungry, except
by choice. And even if it's not by choice, X%X# them & the horse their
momma rode in on."
Now, even though that's how I read your posts, I'm going to assume that
your heart is in the right place & you just have the problem of
ignorance. (Your fault, of course, but since I'm such a nice guy I'll
help you out anyway.)
I live on a major 4 lane Federal highway 10 miles from a city of 300,000
and 4 miles from a small community that's had broadband for at least 5
years. Broadband 1st became available to me about 1 year ago. I spent
years begging, pleading, talking to every supplier, including Cell tower
providers, I could contact. No joy on any of them until last year. Here
are some statistics. Until about 2 years ago, less than 50% of the
addresses in the USA had access to broadband in any form except
satellite. It's much better now; 70% of the country can now access
broadband. (Listers in backwater places like Europe and Japan only have
90-99% coverage; poor guys...)
I'm sure that the next thing you'll say is "Let 'em eat satellite." I
researched it for years. I can afford it. Every customer I talked to had
an experience that ranged from 'better than dialup, but not by much' to
'forget it; it's a waste of money', coupled with the fact that all the
services have relatively low download caps, limiting the total megabytes
of download per month (see current discussion). But more to the point:
There are people on this list who's entire flying budget is not much
more than the ~60-$80/month that satellite costs. "X%X# 'em," you say?
My understanding of the reason lists like these exist is to help others,
not public self-stroking. In all but very rare cases, image files larger
than around 200k have no value when viewed on a computer monitor, keep
those less privileged (by either finances or other circumstances beyond
their control) from seeing them and pointlessly denying them the help we
all are trying to offer, and pointlessly chews up internet bandwidth,
ultimately costing all of us more for broadband access.
Maybe we won't ever see eye to eye on this, but I'm hoping that there
will be others that can understand & try to help instead of hinder the
sharing of knowledge.
Charlie
(archive away; if the archive can handle pointless 3megabyte images, it
can handle a 20k text email.)
John Cox wrote:
>
> The beauty of the picture size is resolution and utility after receipt.
> Once adulterated, the picture can never serve the same value. As Kevin
> mentioned, software can assist those who have the ole technology and
> rightfully chose to remain behind. I have yet to hear the compelling
> reason for dumbing down a great photo or redacting a valued technical
> report for smaller file size over an electronic highway. Maybe each
> image should be charged a fee for pixels.
>
> I do acknowledge your right to stay with what you enjoy. It was not
> meant condescending only too true that there are always those that want
> the runners or racers to slow down the action so they can enjoy it at a
> more leisure pace. Life has always tended to unfold just a bit faster
> that we desire.
>
> I decided to adapt, use a WD Book (1TB) to save those pictures and now
> have over 50,000 unadultered images of RVs. When shared, people go wow,
> I had no idea all that information in each picture, then some go, why is
> that one so poor. The extra $30 per month for the web service has been
> priceless. I do still remember 300baud telephony handset modems and the
> thrill of a Kelsey Hayes that could push the envelope to 900. I
> wouldn't want my cardiologist using a redacted digital image of my heart
> scan when the time comes to renew a medical comes up. Maybe then he
> will find I don't have a heart.
>
> If you want to try offline, I will gladly assist readers in providing a
> range of cheap technologies available. Sprint 4G for my laptop in
> airports has been another boon. I still have my old Motorola BRICK
> cellphone and rotary dial phones for waxing nostalgically.
>
> John
> Do not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ron Lee
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:28 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
> Very condescending John. It is also easy for a poster to reduce the
> picture
> size to one that is not problematic.
>
> Ron Lee
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> To: <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 7:43 AM
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>
>
>
>>
>> Robin, I looked back on my incoming and surmised it was Matt's leather
>> seats post but you could be right.
>>
>> The issue is and will remain the desire of a few to hobble the use by
>> the many of 21 century technology because they choose to remain
>>
> strapped
>
>> with late 20th century bandwidth. Choices abound. For some it's an
>> issue of cost. They do not see the additional value. There are
>>
> several
>
>> services that provide satellite downlink using 20th century request
>> telephone uplink technology. It can work as far north as Alaska and I
>> live in a forest.
>>
>> I enjoy Matt's hosting and will continue to want to stay on the bus
>> rather than stop frequently for a few. As you know I also love your
>> photos. One service might be for members to use the 19th century
>> telephone and read the posts so as not to jam up the tin cans and
>>
> string
>
>> which are clearly run too tight with their computers. ;-)
>>
>> Just checked my Comcast service and a 35Mb file takes 14 seconds. The
>> service is half the cost of my twisted pair telephony. Just a
>> contrarian perspective.
>>
>> Keep the information flowing.
>>
>> John
>> do not archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 9:08 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>> I am sure it was a post from me. I sent 3 photos totaling 1.2
>> (one-point-two) Mb offing to sell an RV-8 Cowl at a significant
>> discount. I assumed I was doing a service to some -8 builder on a
>>
> budget
>
>> (not a money making venture). I could have slimmed down the images
>>
> even
>
>> further but I wanted to make sure the prospective buyer was able to
>>
> see
>
>> detail. Sorry it's been about 16 years since I was dial up.
>>
>> Robin
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry
>>
> Springer
>
>> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:02 PM
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Large attachments
>>
>>
>> From who? I have not received any large files from anyone on the
>> RV-list. Matt posted some pictures of his RV-8 seats.
>>
>> Beautiful seats Matt, only question is where does the kitchen sink go?
>> ;-)
>>
>> Jerry
>> do not archive
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>From Randy Lervold's site:
Standard MS replacement O-rings areMS28775-218; 2-218V-75 are the Viton
O-rings. Try Ace Seal: _http://www.aceseal.com_ (http://www.aceseal.com) .
The High temp fluid is: . MIL-H-83282. Google Royco 782 or Aeroshell 31.
John D
In a message dated 8/16/2009 4:42:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cheathco@cox.net writes:
I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck and
change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and high temp
fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one answer that
only said check free movment on pins. main concern is keeping fluitd from
all running out and does spruce have the viton orings? Charlie H/
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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These were my vendors too! Thanks for the reminder....
----- Original Message -----
From: Tailgummer@aol.com
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: brake drag
From Randy Lervold's site:
Standard MS replacement O-rings areMS28775-218; 2-218V-75 are the
Viton O-rings. Try Ace Seal: http://www.aceseal.com.
The High temp fluid is: . MIL-H-83282. Google Royco 782 or Aeroshell
31.
John D
In a message dated 8/16/2009 4:42:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
cheathco@cox.net writes:
I searched arcives and cant find specific procedure to pull the puck
and change the o ring, other that a mention of using viton o-rings and
high temp fluid. I also found my post of same question 3 yers ago, one
answer that only said check free movment on pins. main concern is
keeping fluitd from all running out and does spruce have the viton
orings? Charlie H/
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Subject: | Re: Large attachments |
>
>
> My understanding of the reason lists like these exist is to help
> others, not public self-stroking. In all but very rare cases, image
> files larger than around 200k have no value when viewed on a computer
> monitor, keep those less privileged (by either finances or other
> circumstances beyond their control) from seeing them and pointlessly
> denying them the help we all are trying to offer, and pointlessly
> chews up internet bandwidth, ultimately costing all of us more for
> broadband access.
>
> Maybe we won't ever see eye to eye on this, but I'm hoping that there
> will be others that can understand & try to help instead of hinder the
> sharing of knowledge.
>
The bandwidth argument is really a old one when bandwidth was a problem.
How does it cost you more for broadband use?
My neighbor has a Corvette, I really want him to drive a Volkswagen like
I do, because I cannot afford a Corvette
just not fair he can drive a much more expensive car.
do not archive
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Subject: | Off topics WAS: Large attachments, Check This Out, etc. |
> I live on a major 4 lane Federal highway 10 miles from a city of 300,000
> and 4 miles from a small community that's had broadband for at least 5
> years. Broadband 1st became available to me about 1 year ago. I spent
> years begging, pleading, talking to every supplier, including Cell tower
> providers, I could contact. No joy on any of them until last year. Here
> are some statistics. Until about 2 years ago, less than 50% of the
> addresses in the USA had access to broadband in any form except
> satellite. It's much better now; 70% of the country can now access
> broadband. (Listers in backwater places like Europe and Japan only have
> 90-99% coverage; poor guys...)
Hey, this opens up all sorts of new topics: the limitations of the
capitalist
economic model; whether and how government should intervene (e.g. rural
electrification in the Depression); and whether the US should or should not
become more like Europe and Asia.
Or not. I myself would love to debate all that stuff, but not here. Guys
and gals, I hardly look at VAF anymore for all the fluff on it. So far
these Matronics lists have a very high tech to fluff ratio, can we keep
it that way, thanks much.
Ralph Finch
Davis, California
RV-9A QB-SA
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Subject: | IO-390 Governor Cable Routing... |
Hello Matt,
That's certainly doable, but will be very intrusive if you use Van's FAB
air box & filter assembly. There are several variations of the prop
governor, FAB air box, and front baffle posted on Marc Ausmen's site...
http://www.io-390.com/IO-390.com/Welcome.html
Best regards,
Bill Gill
RV-7 N151WP
Barrett IO-390
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: RV-List: IO-390 Governor Cable Routing...
Hey, first I wanted to say thanks for the feedback on all my other
questions!
So I ran the Governor cable today and it came out pretty nice and seems
to work well. The only thing that seems a little 'if-y' is how I had to
route the cable over the top of the oil sump. Is this SOP or should the
cable be isolated from the sump some how? I guess I could make a
standoff bracket to hold it up off the sump, but do I really need to?
The cable is currently resting on the sump.
Thanks!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle
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