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     1. 06:40 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Brian Meyette)
     2. 07:26 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Robin Marks)
     3. 07:41 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Ralph Finch)
     4. 07:51 AM - Last call for free GNS-430W upgrade (SteinAir, Inc.)
     5. 08:09 AM - RV-4 Preview plan questions (MacDonald Doug)
     6. 08:52 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Carlos Hernandez)
     7. 09:10 AM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Bruce Bell)
     8. 09:11 AM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Richard Reynolds)
     9. 05:15 PM - Re: vm1000 (432SC)
    10. 09:24 PM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Joe Belany)
 
 
 
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      i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
      Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Big Iron Envy
      
      
      RV-List,
      
                      In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have
      said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground
      when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I
      wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus swoop into our home
      field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me
      said. "me want."
      
                      Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC
      called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, 17 miles
      8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O'clock descending out of
      one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the South West
      737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the
      controller "that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it's really easy
      to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" from commercial pilots. 
      
      I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my -10.
      Seeing is avoiding.  
      
                      The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception
      of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a
      page that shows the install.
      http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note.
      When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED
      Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red &
      Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These
      appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed
      circuit board LED's I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to
      install as well. I will report results once flying.
      
      Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept:
      eBay Item# 380151029392
      <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/G18-67-67-Hyper-Green-15-LED-Light-Bulb-12v-
      1156-61-63_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem5882c45e90QQ
      itemZ380151029392QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories> 
      
      
      Robin
      
      RV-4      Sold
      
      RV-6A   Sold
      
      RV-10    75 Hours
      
      RV-8A   Flying 2010
      
      
      06:08:00 
      
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      Many WigWag kits available. Most important that the controllers have a
      warm up feature so the bulb is not cycled till it is warm.
      
      
      Regarding Wig Wag:
      
      
      http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html
      
      REMEMBER: Not all wig-wags will work with HID lights!  Be sure you use
      one specifically designed for use with HID units. 
      
      
      Duckworks True Solid State Flasher
      
      
      This Flasher is great for new installations, or as a fantastic
      replacement for a setup where you want to upgrade to support HID, or
      your Flasher has failed or is inadequate and you want to use the
      switches you already have in the panel.
      
      *	No 'Clacking' Relays - ALL Solid State - Silent operation 
      *	Compatible with Halogen and HID Units 
      *	Small and lightweight 
      *	Alternating Flash at 1.1Hz Flash Rate 
      *	Capable of handling up to 300W (150W per side) 
      *	Mixing of HID and Halogen Lamps OK 
      *	Simple 4 wire connection 
      *	Easy Mounting with removable Flange 
      *	Full instructions including wiring diagrams 
      
      Note - This unit does NOT have an automatic HID 'warm-up' feature like
      the XeVision unit. Pilot must remember to warm-up the HID lights before
      switching to Flash.
      
      See our switch <http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html#Switches>
      options below. 
      
      Application
      
      Order direct from Duckworks
      
      Price
      
      Order
      
      All Halogen and HID Lights
      
      TSSFlasher- Sale! <http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html#TSSFlasher>
      (while supplies last)
      
      $85
      
      
      MaxPulse Flasher/Total Light Control
      
      
      *	Single Knob Control of both Lights - Off, Starboard, Port, Both,
      Alternating or Both Pulse 
      *	Dual 10A Circuits 
      *	Small and Easy to Install 
      *	Fully FAA PMA STC Certified 
      *	Mixing of HID and Halogen Lamps OK 
      *	Automatic startup of HID Lamps 
      *	Full instructions including wiring diagrams 
      *	More Information - Brochure
      <http://www.duckworksav.com/Docs/DealerStuff/Brochures/pulser_brochure_9
      -28-08.pdf>  
      
      Go to the MaxPulse <http://www.seatoneng.com/docs/latestdocs.htm>  site
      to see Installation Instructions, Diagrams, and STC Documentation.
      
      Application
      
      Order direct from Duckworks
      
      Price
      
      Order
      
      Halogen Lamps and HID Lamps
      
      MaxPulse- Sale! <http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html#TSSFlasher>
      (while supplies last)
      
      $140
      
      
      http://www.tcwtech.com/ILC-4ch.htm
      
      
      http://www.xevision.com/hid_pulsing.html
      
      
      Very important that the Wig/Wag has Warm Up Feature so HID does not
      pulse till fully warmed up (30 seconds or so).
      
      
      Good luck,
      
      Robin
      
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
      Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy
      
      
      i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed
      
      
      ________________________________
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
      Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM
      Subject: RV-List: Big Iron Envy
      
      RV-List,
      
                      In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots
      have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from
      the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is
      exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus
      swoop into our home field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think the
      little boy inside of me said... "me want."
      
                      Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin
      ATC called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, 17
      miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O'clock descending out of
      one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the South
      West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me
      through the controller "that is some light system he has on his RV-10,
      it's really easy to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" from commercial
      pilots. 
      
      I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my
      -10. Seeing is avoiding.  
      
                      The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the
      exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If
      interested I have a page that shows the install.   
      http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of
      note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but
      nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a
      set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired
      sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective
      solution vs. the printed circuit board LED's I used on my -10. Plus some
      significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once
      flying.
      
      Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the
      concept: eBay Item# 380151029392
      <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/G18-67-67-Hyper-Green-15-LED-Light-Bulb-
      12v-1156-61-63_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem5882
      c45e90QQitemZ380151029392QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
      > 
      
      
      Robin
      
      RV-4      Sold
      
      RV-6A   Sold
      
      RV-10    75 Hours
      
      RV-8A   Flying 2010
      
      
      href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.
      c
      om/Navigator?RV-List
      href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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      They can be flashed if they're allowed to warmup up first (30-60 seconds of
      steady on).  Even then the life is shortened but it's still measured in the
      1000s of hours I believe.
      
      
      RF
      
      
      From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette
      Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM
      Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy
      
      
      i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed
      
      
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| Subject:  | Last call for free GNS-430W upgrade | 
      
      
      Hi all,
      
      In case anyone missed it, I thought I'd post this one last time. If you have
      a NEW in the box NON WAAS 430, or a NEVER FLOWN 430 NON WAAS, we'll trade
      you right now for a brand spankin new 430W. The unit has to have zero flight
      hours on it, no repairs from Garmin (never sent back). It can be installed,
      just not flown.
      
      If you have such a unit, please get hold of me asap and we'll trade you out!
      
      Cheers,
      Stein
      
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| Subject:  | RV-4 Preview plan questions | 
      
      
      Hey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08 vintage) preview
      plans.  I am kind of following along as though I were really building the plane.
      I am looking through section 6 which is the assembly of the empanage group.
      The assembly instructions reference DWG numbers which I have figured out
      with no problem.  Where I am having issues is that it is referencing figure numbers
      that I don't seem to have.  I have Fig 6-1 through fig 6-4 but don't have
      Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the assembly instructions.
      
      My question is:
      
      a) Are these figures not included because these are just the Preview Plans and
      are therefore included in the final plans?
      
      b) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the plans and even though I have
      looked, I just haven't found them yet?  I would think they would be located
      with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows.
      
      c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans package by Van's
      (or their printer)? 
      
      I realize that Van's is excellent about answering issues like this but I figure
      that I should leave their precious time to people that have started drilling
      and cutting rather than just evaluating like me.
      
      Doug MacDonald
      RV-4 dreamer
      NW Ontario, Canada
      
      Do not archive
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Big Iron Envy | 
      
      Here's a site that has done something very simila regarding the nav 
      lights light the ones you've shown. Here's his link. 
      http://www.reiffpreheat.com/RV4.htm Scroll to the bottom to see his 
      installed pics.
      
      Carlos in Arizona
      
      Robin Marks wrote:
      >
      > RV-List,
      >
      >                 In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots 
      > have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from 
      > the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is 
      > exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus 
      > swoop into our home field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think 
      > the little boy inside of me said... "me want."
      >
      >                 Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin 
      > ATC called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, 
      > 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE  traffic 2:00 O'clock descending 
      > out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the 
      > South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot 
      > told me through the controller "that is some light system he has on 
      > his RV-10, it's really easy to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" 
      > from commercial pilots.
      >
      > I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my 
      > -10. Seeing is avoiding.  
      >
      >                 The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the 
      > exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If 
      > interested I have a page that shows the install. 
      >   http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing 
      > of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive 
      > (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have 
      > found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including 
      > wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost 
      > effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED's I used on my 
      > -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will 
      > report results once flying.
      >
      > Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the 
      > concept: eBay Item# 380151029392 
      > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/G18-67-67-Hyper-Green-15-LED-Light-Bulb-12v-1156-61-63_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem5882c45e90QQitemZ380151029392QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories>
      >
      >  
      >
      > Robin
      >
      > RV-4      Sold
      >
      > RV-6A   Sold
      >
      > RV-10    75 Hours
      >
      > RV-8A   Flying 2010
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      
      -- 
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      Structural Engineers Company
      2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3
      Chandler, AZ 85224
      Phone: 480.968.8600
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions | 
      
      
      Dream about a RV-8!
      Bruce Bell
      RV-4 2888 Flying
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions | 
      
      
      The figure numbers may refer to figures in "Vans builders manual".
      
      Richard Reynolds
      Norfolk VA
      RV-6A - N841RV
      
      
      On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:07 AM, MacDonald Doug wrote:
      
      >
      > Hey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08  
      > vintage) preview plans.  I am kind of following along as though I  
      > were really building the plane.  I am looking through section 6  
      > which is the assembly of the empanage group.  The assembly  
      > instructions reference DWG numbers which I have figured out with no  
      > problem.  Where I am having issues is that it is referencing figure  
      > numbers that I don't seem to have.  I have Fig 6-1 through fig 6-4  
      > but don't have Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the  
      > assembly instructions.
      >
      > My question is:
      >
      > a) Are these figures not included because these are just the Preview  
      > Plans and are therefore included in the final plans?
      >
      > b) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the plans and even  
      > though I have looked, I just haven't found them yet?  I would think  
      > they would be located with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows.
      >
      > c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans  
      > package by Van's (or their printer)?
      >
      > I realize that Van's is excellent about answering issues like this  
      > but I figure that I should leave their precious time to people that  
      > have started drilling and cutting rather than just evaluating like me.
      >
      > Doug MacDonald
      > RV-4 dreamer
      > NW Ontario, Canada
      >
      > Do not archive
      >
      >
      >       
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      The chip is an ST M48T02-150PC1 "Timekeeper RAM" chip. I bought one from Newark
      or Digi-Key, I can't remember which. I believe that VMS specified an eight year
      replacement interval, but my aircraft's manufacturer (Diamond) initially specified
      two years in the maintenance manual, so I replaced it then. Subsequently,
      Diamond changed the interval to agree with VMS's eight years.
      
      Can you post (or e-mail) the instructions regarding tach time reset? I can't find
      mine (maybe I'm the one who needs a new memory battery!).
      
      Steve
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259835#259835
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions | 
      
      I hope this hasn't been answered yet.  The figure number refers to the figu
      re as depicted in your preview plans.  For example, on page 6-20 you are re
      ferred to figure 6.18 for rolling the rudder leading edge.  Figure 6.18 is 
      directly below it on the page.  Everything you get with the kit is the same
       pages again, for example Chapter 6 for the empenage, along with the drawin
      gs which you reference placement and measurements.  The large prints are id
      entical to the small ones in the back of your book, drawings 3a-9a for the 
      empenage.=0A=0A Joe, AI9Z=0AGrid: EN46no=0ARV-4, Empenage=0APounding rivets
      ...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: MacDonald Dou
      g <dougsnash@yahoo.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, Augu
      st 26, 2009 10:07:05 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: RV-4 Preview plan questions=0A
      =0AHey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08 vintage)
       preview plans.  I am kind of following along as though I were really build
      ing the plane.  I am looking through section 6 which is the assembly of the
       empanage group.  The assembly instructions reference DWG numbers which I h
      ave figured out with no problem.  Where I am having issues is that it is re
      ferencing figure numbers that I don't seem to have.  I have Fig 6-1 through
       fig 6-4 but don't have Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the asse
      mbly instructions.=0A=0AMy question is:=0A=0Aa) Are these figures not inclu
      ded because these are just the Preview Plans and are therefore included in 
      the final plans?=0A=0Ab) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the 
      plans and even though I have looked, I just haven't found them yet?  I woul
      d think they would be located with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows.=0A=0A
      c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans package by 
      Van's (or their printer)? =0A=0AI realize that Van's is excellent about ans
      wering issues like this but I figure that I should leave their precious tim
      e to people that have started drilling and cutting rather than just evaluat
      ing like me.=0A=0ADoug MacDonald=0ARV-4 dreamer=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0AD
      o not archive=0A=0A=0A      _______________________________________________
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