---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/26/09: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:40 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Brian Meyette) 2. 07:26 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Robin Marks) 3. 07:41 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Ralph Finch) 4. 07:51 AM - Last call for free GNS-430W upgrade (SteinAir, Inc.) 5. 08:09 AM - RV-4 Preview plan questions (MacDonald Doug) 6. 08:52 AM - Re: Big Iron Envy (Carlos Hernandez) 7. 09:10 AM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Bruce Bell) 8. 09:11 AM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Richard Reynolds) 9. 05:15 PM - Re: vm1000 (432SC) 10. 09:24 PM - Re: RV-4 Preview plan questions (Joe Belany) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:49 AM PST US From: "Brian Meyette" Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM Subject: RV-List: Big Iron Envy RV-List, In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said. "me want." Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O'clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller "that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it's really easy to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" from commercial pilots. I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding. The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED's I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying. Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392 Robin RV-4 Sold RV-6A Sold RV-10 75 Hours RV-8A Flying 2010 06:08:00 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:26:46 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy From: "Robin Marks" Many WigWag kits available. Most important that the controllers have a warm up feature so the bulb is not cycled till it is warm. Regarding Wig Wag: http://www.duckworksav.com/WigWag.html REMEMBER: Not all wig-wags will work with HID lights! Be sure you use one specifically designed for use with HID units. Duckworks True Solid State Flasher This Flasher is great for new installations, or as a fantastic replacement for a setup where you want to upgrade to support HID, or your Flasher has failed or is inadequate and you want to use the switches you already have in the panel. * No 'Clacking' Relays - ALL Solid State - Silent operation * Compatible with Halogen and HID Units * Small and lightweight * Alternating Flash at 1.1Hz Flash Rate * Capable of handling up to 300W (150W per side) * Mixing of HID and Halogen Lamps OK * Simple 4 wire connection * Easy Mounting with removable Flange * Full instructions including wiring diagrams Note - This unit does NOT have an automatic HID 'warm-up' feature like the XeVision unit. Pilot must remember to warm-up the HID lights before switching to Flash. See our switch options below. Application Order direct from Duckworks Price Order All Halogen and HID Lights TSSFlasher- Sale! (while supplies last) $85 MaxPulse Flasher/Total Light Control * Single Knob Control of both Lights - Off, Starboard, Port, Both, Alternating or Both Pulse * Dual 10A Circuits * Small and Easy to Install * Fully FAA PMA STC Certified * Mixing of HID and Halogen Lamps OK * Automatic startup of HID Lamps * Full instructions including wiring diagrams * More Information - Brochure Go to the MaxPulse site to see Installation Instructions, Diagrams, and STC Documentation. Application Order direct from Duckworks Price Order Halogen Lamps and HID Lamps MaxPulse- Sale! (while supplies last) $140 http://www.tcwtech.com/ILC-4ch.htm http://www.xevision.com/hid_pulsing.html Very important that the Wig/Wag has Warm Up Feature so HID does not pulse till fully warmed up (30 seconds or so). Good luck, Robin From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed ________________________________ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:43 AM Subject: RV-List: Big Iron Envy RV-List, In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus swoop into our home field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think the little boy inside of me said... "me want." Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin ATC called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O'clock descending out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot told me through the controller "that is some light system he has on his RV-10, it's really easy to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" from commercial pilots. I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my -10. Seeing is avoiding. The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If interested I have a page that shows the install. http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED's I used on my -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will report results once flying. Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the concept: eBay Item# 380151029392 Robin RV-4 Sold RV-6A Sold RV-10 75 Hours RV-8A Flying 2010 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. c om/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c 270.13.66/2325 - Release Date: 08/25/09 06:08:00 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:31 AM PST US From: "Ralph Finch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy They can be flashed if they're allowed to warmup up first (30-60 seconds of steady on). Even then the life is shortened but it's still measured in the 1000s of hours I believe. RF From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Meyette Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 6:39 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Big Iron Envy i'm confused - I thought HIDs couldn't (or shouldn't) be flashed ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:48 AM PST US From: "SteinAir, Inc." Subject: RV-List: Last call for free GNS-430W upgrade Hi all, In case anyone missed it, I thought I'd post this one last time. If you have a NEW in the box NON WAAS 430, or a NEVER FLOWN 430 NON WAAS, we'll trade you right now for a brand spankin new 430W. The unit has to have zero flight hours on it, no repairs from Garmin (never sent back). It can be installed, just not flown. If you have such a unit, please get hold of me asap and we'll trade you out! Cheers, Stein _________________________________________ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:09:47 AM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: RV-List: RV-4 Preview plan questions Hey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08 vintage) preview plans. I am kind of following along as though I were really building the plane. I am looking through section 6 which is the assembly of the empanage group. The assembly instructions reference DWG numbers which I have figured out with no problem. Where I am having issues is that it is referencing figure numbers that I don't seem to have. I have Fig 6-1 through fig 6-4 but don't have Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the assembly instructions. My question is: a) Are these figures not included because these are just the Preview Plans and are therefore included in the final plans? b) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the plans and even though I have looked, I just haven't found them yet? I would think they would be located with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows. c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans package by Van's (or their printer)? I realize that Van's is excellent about answering issues like this but I figure that I should leave their precious time to people that have started drilling and cutting rather than just evaluating like me. Doug MacDonald RV-4 dreamer NW Ontario, Canada Do not archive __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:52:27 AM PST US From: Carlos Hernandez Subject: Re: RV-List: Big Iron Envy Here's a site that has done something very simila regarding the nav lights light the ones you've shown. Here's his link. http://www.reiffpreheat.com/RV4.htm Scroll to the bottom to see his installed pics. Carlos in Arizona Robin Marks wrote: > > RV-List, > > In the past I have mentioned that a number of pilots > have said how bright & noticeable my Dual Wig Wag HID lights are from > the ground when I am on approach during the daylight hours. This is > exactly what I wanted from the first day I saw my neighbor's Pilatus > swoop into our home field with his flashing HID's a blazing. I think > the little boy inside of me said... "me want." > > Well yesterday on a dusk flight departing the LA basin > ATC called traffic "South West 737 you have RV-10 Traffic 10 O'clock, > 17 miles 8,500 feet. November 110EE traffic 2:00 O'clock descending > out of one-one-thousand feet a Boeing 737." Before I could respond the > South West 737 replied Traffic Insight. Moments later the SW pilot > told me through the controller "that is some light system he has on > his RV-10, it's really easy to pick up" COOL! Getting "at a boy's" > from commercial pilots. > > I consider the Wig-Wag HID's to be an important safety feature on my > -10. Seeing is avoiding. > > The set up is nothing out of the ordinary with the > exception of dual 35W HID lights placed in the leading edge. If > interested I have a page that shows the install. > http://www.painttheweb.com/rv-10/Lights_LEDHID.htm . One more thing > of note. When on that page you will also see some pretty expensive > (but nice) LED Position Lights. My next build is an RV-8A and I have > found a set of Red & Green LED bulbs for around $8.00 each including > wired sockets (eBay). These appear to be an excellent and cost > effective solution vs. the printed circuit board LED's I used on my > -10. Plus some significant time savings to install as well. I will > report results once flying. > > Not exactly the LED's I purchased but this gives you an idea of the > concept: eBay Item# 380151029392 > > > > > Robin > > RV-4 Sold > > RV-6A Sold > > RV-10 75 Hours > > RV-8A Flying 2010 > > * > > > * -- Carlos Hernandez Structural Engineers Company 2963 W. 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Bruce Bell RV-4 2888 Flying ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:11:55 AM PST US From: Richard Reynolds Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-4 Preview plan questions The figure numbers may refer to figures in "Vans builders manual". Richard Reynolds Norfolk VA RV-6A - N841RV On Aug 26, 2009, at 11:07 AM, MacDonald Doug wrote: > > Hey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08 > vintage) preview plans. I am kind of following along as though I > were really building the plane. I am looking through section 6 > which is the assembly of the empanage group. The assembly > instructions reference DWG numbers which I have figured out with no > problem. Where I am having issues is that it is referencing figure > numbers that I don't seem to have. I have Fig 6-1 through fig 6-4 > but don't have Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the > assembly instructions. > > My question is: > > a) Are these figures not included because these are just the Preview > Plans and are therefore included in the final plans? > > b) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the plans and even > though I have looked, I just haven't found them yet? I would think > they would be located with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows. > > c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans > package by Van's (or their printer)? > > I realize that Van's is excellent about answering issues like this > but I figure that I should leave their precious time to people that > have started drilling and cutting rather than just evaluating like me. > > Doug MacDonald > RV-4 dreamer > NW Ontario, Canada > > Do not archive > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > The new Internet Explorer 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for > Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:15:07 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: vm1000 From: "432SC" The chip is an ST M48T02-150PC1 "Timekeeper RAM" chip. I bought one from Newark or Digi-Key, I can't remember which. I believe that VMS specified an eight year replacement interval, but my aircraft's manufacturer (Diamond) initially specified two years in the maintenance manual, so I replaced it then. Subsequently, Diamond changed the interval to agree with VMS's eight years. Can you post (or e-mail) the instructions regarding tach time reset? I can't find mine (maybe I'm the one who needs a new memory battery!). Steve Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=259835#259835 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:06 PM PST US From: Joe Belany Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-4 Preview plan questions I hope this hasn't been answered yet. The figure number refers to the figu re as depicted in your preview plans. For example, on page 6-20 you are re ferred to figure 6.18 for rolling the rudder leading edge. Figure 6.18 is directly below it on the page. Everything you get with the kit is the same pages again, for example Chapter 6 for the empenage, along with the drawin gs which you reference placement and measurements. The large prints are id entical to the small ones in the back of your book, drawings 3a-9a for the empenage.=0A=0A Joe, AI9Z=0AGrid: EN46no=0ARV-4, Empenage=0APounding rivets ...=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: MacDonald Dou g =0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, Augu st 26, 2009 10:07:05 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: RV-4 Preview plan questions=0A =0AHey guys, I have recently started going through my RV-4 (Nov 08 vintage) preview plans. I am kind of following along as though I were really build ing the plane. I am looking through section 6 which is the assembly of the empanage group. The assembly instructions reference DWG numbers which I h ave figured out with no problem. Where I am having issues is that it is re ferencing figure numbers that I don't seem to have. I have Fig 6-1 through fig 6-4 but don't have Fig 6-5 through 6-11 that are mentioned in the asse mbly instructions.=0A=0AMy question is:=0A=0Aa) Are these figures not inclu ded because these are just the Preview Plans and are therefore included in the final plans?=0A=0Ab) Are the "missing" figures buried elsewhere in the plans and even though I have looked, I just haven't found them yet? I woul d think they would be located with the 6-1 through 6-4 but who knows.=0A=0A c) Were these pages accidentally omitted from the Preview Plans package by Van's (or their printer)? =0A=0AI realize that Van's is excellent about ans wering issues like this but I figure that I should leave their precious tim e to people that have started drilling and cutting rather than just evaluat ing like me.=0A=0ADoug MacDonald=0ARV-4 dreamer=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0AD o not archive=0A=0A=0A _______________________________________________ ___________________=0AThe new Internet Explorer=AE 8 - Faster, safer, easie r. Optimized for Yahoo! 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