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Sat 09/05/09


Total Messages Posted: 21



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     1. 03:44 AM - Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications (charlie heathco)
     2. 05:24 AM - Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications (Dale Ellis)
     3. 05:44 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Dana Overall)
     4. 05:54 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Mike Divan)
     5. 06:36 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Bret Smith)
     6. 07:55 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Charlie England)
     7. 08:18 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Mike Divan)
     8. 08:27 AM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Jerry Springer)
     9. 08:49 AM - Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications (Jerry Springer)
    10. 09:32 AM - Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications (Colm O'Reilly)
    11. 09:50 AM - Solder, etc. Was: Loop problem (Ralph Finch)
    12. 02:50 PM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Jerry Springer)
    13. 03:21 PM - Just for the rcord (Jerry Springer)
    14. 03:39 PM - Re: Just for the rcord (Ralph E. Capen)
    15. 05:11 PM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Terry Watson)
    16. 05:21 PM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Kelly McMullen)
    17. 05:21 PM - Another gone was Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Ed Anderson)
    18. 08:11 PM - RV-8 Part # F-601Y (Matt Dralle)
    19. 08:17 PM - Re: Another gone was Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Larry Bowen)
    20. 09:13 PM - Re: Solder, etc. Was: Loop problem (Mike Divan)
    21. 09:52 PM - Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. (Terry Watson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:44:11 AM PST US
    From: "charlie heathco" <cheathco@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications
    Maark, assuming you changed oil at the insp, did you pull the screen and check it? What oil you using? ----- Original Message ----- From: mark phipps To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 00:30 Subject: RV-List: Fw: High oil pressure indications --- On Fri, 9/4/09, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: From: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> Subject: High oil pressure indications To: lycoming@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:22 PM Since I finished my condition inspection 2 weeks ago I have flown 6 times. I an O320 with 240 hours and Grand Rapids engine monitor and EFIS. I have had a few instances of the oil pressure showing about 91 or 92 and alarming for about one minute, and then it goes down to the usual range around 60 to 65. During the last few flights it was around 86 to 88 during the first few muntes of flight and than back down to 65. Not sure if it is safe to fly or what the problem is. My guess is pressure sensor or relief valve. Any ideas. Mark, RV6A, 240 hours Recent Activity a.. 1New Members Visit Your Group Yahoo! News Get it all here Breaking news to entertainment news Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. Group Charity Stop Cyberbullying Keep your kids safe from bullying. __,_._,___


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    Time: 05:24:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications
    From: Dale Ellis <rv8builder.kd0m@gmail.com>
    I have access to and fly a RV-6A with a O-320. Phillips X-C 20-50 oil is used. I have noticed that when oil is 'cold' and for the first few minutes of flight, the pressure is up to the 80-85 PSI range as you describe. When the oil temp gets to 180-190, then the pressure goes down to the 65 PSI range, again as you describe. All of these values are measured with Vans gauges (of unknown accuracy and pedigree!). I suspect that what your are seeing is normal. But this just one opinion!! Now please join me in my efforts to stomp out down aileron!! Dale On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > --- On Fri, 9/4/09, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: > > From: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> > Subject: High oil pressure indications > To: lycoming@yahoogroups.com > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:22 PM > > > Since I finished my condition inspection 2 weeks ago I have flown 6 times. I an O320 with 240 hours and Grand Rapids engine monitor and EFIS. I have had a few instances of the oil pressure showing about 91 or 92 and alarming for about one minute, and then it goes down to the usual range around 60 to 65. During the last few flights it was around 86 to 88 during the first few muntes of flight and than back down to 65. Not sure if it is safe to fly or what the problem is. My guess is pressure sensor or relief valve. Any ideas. > > Mark, RV6A, 240 hours > > > Recent Activity > > 1 > New Members > > Visit Your Group > Yahoo! News > Get it all here > Breaking news to > entertainment news > Yahoo! Finance > It's Now Personal > Guides, news, > advice & more. > Group Charity > Stop Cyberbullying > Keep your kids > safe from bullying > . > __,_._,___ > >


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    Time: 05:44:33 AM PST US
    From: Dana Overall <bo124rs@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    I like that Solder is helping out too! People=2C especially you wacky right wingers=2C learn to spell. -GV I was thinking the same thing.......must be something prevalent within the wingnut birther=2C death panel=2C he's going to brainwash my child Tuesday =2C "movemont". Hum=2C come to think of it=2C there might actually be so me good come out of the "right winger" parents going to school Tuesday with their children............I'm just sayin:-) Come on folks=2C laugh a little Dana Overall Richmond=2C KY i39 do not archive From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I like that Solder is helping out too! People=2C especially you wacky right wingers=2C learn to spell. -GV In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time=2C n343fd@yahoo.com writes: :) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Solder=2C Sailor=2C Airman=2C Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! From: "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday=2C September 1=2C 2009 7:38:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys haven't been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. -N1GV In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time=2C n343fd@yahoo.com writes: FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Solder=2C Sailor=2C Airman=2C Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV-List ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-U S:WM_HYGN_faster:082009


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    Time: 05:54:49 AM PST US
    From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Blame the left wing school system I went to that thinks close is good enough and did not give out grades because it might make someone feel bad :( I think I spelled it correctly this time ;) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ________________________________ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:00:02 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky right wingers, learn to spell. -GV In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n343fd@yahoo.com writes: :) > > Mike Divan >N64GH - RV6 (flying) >http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ >FREEDOM IS NOT > FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! >Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT > the "community organizer"! > > ________________________________ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" > <Vanremog@aol.com> >To: > rv-list@matronics.com >Sent: > Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:38:19 PM >Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- > the rest of the story. > >I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys haven't > been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. > >-N1GV > >In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: >FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR >> YOURS! >>Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, >> Airman, Marine and Cost Guard >> that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community >> organizer"! > > ________________________________ > > >=================================== >="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=================================== >ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >=================================== >tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=================================== > > ________________________________


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    Time: 06:36:13 AM PST US
    From: "Bret Smith" <smithhb@tds.net>
    Subject: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Now you need to get rid of, or fix the Republican on the end... the Cost Guard. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, Ga www.FlightInnovations.com <http://www.flightinnovations.com/> _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Divan Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:50 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. Blame the left wing school system I went to that thinks close is good enough and did not give out grades because it might make someone feel bad :( I think I spelled it correctly this time ;) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! _____ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:00:02 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky right wingers, learn to spell. -GV In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n343fd@yahoo.com writes: :) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! _____ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:38:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys haven't been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. -N1GV In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n343fd@yahoo.com writes: FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! _____ =================================== ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List" <http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List%22%3Ehttp://www.matronics.com/Na vigator?RV-List==========================> >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List================================ == ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com =================================== tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution= ================================= _____


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    Time: 07:55:54 AM PST US
    From: Charlie England <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Heh, heh, heh.... You know, I almost feel sorry for you, Mike. Almost. I think you're trying to say that you think your spell checker spelled it correctly this time. :-) (It did, but the words were wrong.) Isn't it interesting that both the 'left wing pinko liberals' and the right wingnut 'conservatives' (and the rest of us, really) want to blame someone else for their problems, when ultimately we are each responsible for our own fate. You say that your problem is rooted in a 'left wing' school that didn't give grades. Really. The kids of people I know, and some of their parents, went to 'right wing' (read that 'private') schools that were created to keep 'em out of those 'left wing' schools (that admittedly, really were pretty bad). One of those schools is still in operation about 4 miles from my house. They have about 10 acres of immaculately groomed athletic fields, and their students have to share textbooks. There are people who graduated from that school who *can* spell (& have 'MD' after their names), & people who graduated from that school who can't even speak in complete sentences, much less spell the words. Here's what's really sad, and a little dangerous, about the quote in that signature. I suspect that you weren't the original author, since it's been forwarded with those same spelling errors all over the internet hundreds of thousands of times. It was written by someone who, at the very best, didn't bother to check his work for typos. It was read, and passed on as fact, by, at minimum, hundreds of thousands of others who didn't bother read & critically analyze what they read before passing it on as fact. If you look back in history, nothing good has ever come from large groups of people accepting without question the words of the individuals they look to as their leaders. I probably made twenty spelling errors & typos while typing this (hopefully all corrected), but I do try to critically analyze everything I read & hear, without regard to its wing of origin. Charlie Mike Divan wrote: > Blame the left wing school system I went to that thinks close is good > enough and did not give out grades because it might make someone feel > bad :( > > I think I spelled it correctly this time ;) > > > Mike Divan > N64GH - RV6 (flying) > http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN FIGHTING MAN FOR YOURS! > Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that > guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Friday, September 4, 2009 10:00:02 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. > > I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky > right wingers, learn to spell. > > -GV > > In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: > > :) > > Mike Divan > N64GH - RV6 (flying) > http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard > that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:38:19 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. > > I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys > haven't been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. > > -N1GV > > In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: > > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost > Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! >


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    Time: 08:18:11 AM PST US
    From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Well at least I know I got my tail number spelled correctly and RV6 which for me is great. Any way time to go fly that RV and have some fun - keeping it RV related. It is all good and I enjoy the list and topics. Just not the occasional ... well I suppose we all put our foot in our mouth from time to time. Me probably more than most. Y'all enjoy the day and get in the air if ya can :) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ________________________________ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 10:00:02 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky right wingers, learn to spell. -GV In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, n343fd@yahoo.com writes: :) > > Mike Divan >N64GH - RV6 (flying) >http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ >FREEDOM IS NOT > FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! >Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT > the "community organizer"! > > ________________________________ From: "Vanremog@aol.com" > <Vanremog@aol.com> >To: > rv-list@matronics.com >Sent: > Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:38:19 PM >Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- > the rest of the story. > >I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys haven't > been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. > >-N1GV > >In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: >FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR >> YOURS! >>Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, >> Airman, Marine and Cost Guard >> that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community >> organizer"! > > ________________________________ > > >=================================== >="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=================================== >ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com >=================================== >tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=================================== > > ________________________________


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    Time: 08:27:41 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    I sure hope his message gets to all the schools in all _*57*_ states. Nothing funny to laugh at when you have someone trying to destroy freedom of choice in this country. You have an extreme left winger on this list calling others extreme "right winger wackos." Step back a moment and take a look at the extreme wackos this president has surrounded himself with and appointed to his cabinet. Nuff said FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the "_Soldier"_, Sailor, Airman, Marine and_ __"Coast_" Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! "FIXED" Dana Overall wrote: > I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky > right wingers, learn to spell. > > -GV > > I was thinking the same thing.......must be something prevalent within > the wingnut birther, death panel, he's going to brainwash my child > Tuesday, "movemont". Hum, come to think of it, there might actually > be some good come out of the "right winger" parents going to school > Tuesday with their children............I'm just sayin:-) > > Come on folks, laugh a little > > > Dana Overall > Richmond, KY i39 > do not archive > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: Vanremog@aol.com > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 01:00:02 -0400 > Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > I like that Solder is helping out too! People, especially you wacky > right wingers, learn to spell. > > -GV > > In a message dated 9/4/2009 7:23:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: > > :) > > Mike Divan > N64GH - RV6 (flying) > http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard > that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* "Vanremog@aol.com" <Vanremog@aol.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 1, 2009 7:38:19 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. > > I agree for the most part but IMO those Cost (sic) Guard guys > haven't been protecting the cost of my stocks very well lately. > > -N1GV > > In a message dated 9/1/2009 4:38:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > n343fd@yahoo.com writes: > > FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! > Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost > Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > * > > > * > > > * > > =================================== > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > ========== > ms.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com > =================================== > tp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > * > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?R========= > > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hotmail is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. Try > it now. > <http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=PID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009> > > * > > > *


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    Time: 08:49:25 AM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications
    Normal oil pressure range 65-85, idle 25 psi, I would rather see it closer to 80 than 65. Dale Ellis wrote: > > I have access to and fly a RV-6A with a O-320. Phillips X-C 20-50 oil > is used. I have noticed that when oil is 'cold' and for the first few > minutes of flight, the pressure is up to the 80-85 PSI range as you > describe. When the oil temp gets to 180-190, then the pressure goes > down to the 65 PSI range, again as you describe. All of these values > are measured with Vans gauges (of unknown accuracy and pedigree!). I > suspect that what your are seeing is normal. But this just one > opinion!! > > Now please join me in my efforts to stomp out down aileron!! > > Dale > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> From: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> >> Subject: High oil pressure indications >> To: lycoming@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:22 PM >> >> >> Since I finished my condition inspection 2 weeks ago I have flown 6 times. I an O320 with 240 hours and Grand Rapids engine monitor and EFIS. I have had a few instances of the oil pressure showing about 91 or 92 and alarming for about one minute, and then it goes down to the usual range around 60 to 65. During the last few flights it was around 86 to 88 during the first few muntes of flight and than back down to 65. Not sure if it is safe to fly or what the problem is. My guess is pressure sensor or relief valve. Any ideas. >> >> Mark, RV6A, 240 hours >> >> >> >>


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    Time: 09:32:52 AM PST US
    From: "Colm O'Reilly" <colm.oreilly@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Fw: High oil pressure indications
    Are you spending enough time warming up before takeoff ? On Sep 5, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Jerry Springer wrote: > > Normal oil pressure range 65-85, idle 25 psi, I would rather see it > closer to 80 than 65. > > > Dale Ellis wrote: >> >> I have access to and fly a RV-6A with a O-320. Phillips X-C 20-50 >> oil >> is used. I have noticed that when oil is 'cold' and for the first >> few >> minutes of flight, the pressure is up to the 80-85 PSI range as you >> describe. When the oil temp gets to 180-190, then the pressure goes >> down to the 65 PSI range, again as you describe. All of these values >> are measured with Vans gauges (of unknown accuracy and pedigree!). I >> suspect that what your are seeing is normal. But this just one >> opinion!! >> >> Now please join me in my efforts to stomp out down aileron!! >> >> Dale >> >> On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 1:30 AM, mark phipps >> <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> From: mark phipps <skydive80020@yahoo.com> >>> Subject: High oil pressure indications >>> To: lycoming@yahoogroups.com >>> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:22 PM >>> >>> >>> Since I finished my condition inspection 2 weeks ago I have flown >>> 6 times. I an O320 with 240 hours and Grand Rapids engine monitor >>> and EFIS. I have had a few instances of the oil pressure showing >>> about 91 or 92 and alarming for about one minute, and then it goes >>> down to the usual range around 60 to 65. During the last few >>> flights it was around 86 to 88 during the first few muntes of >>> flight and than back down to 65. Not sure if it is safe to fly or >>> what the problem is. My guess is pressure sensor or relief valve. >>> Any ideas. >>> >>> Mark, RV6A, 240 hours >>> >>> >>> >>> > >


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    Time: 09:50:39 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph Finch" <rgf@dcn.davis.ca.us>
    Subject: Solder, etc. Was: Loop problem
    Ha ha. Actually it's true: Solder: used for the LED position lights in my RV, to keep me free from collisions at night. Sailor: several of them sent my RV kit to the Philippine Islands and brought it back as a QB, giving me more free time. Airman (and Airwoman): Over the years these professional flyers instructed and taught me the freedom of flight. Cost Guard: My good wife guards our family's costs! But I disagree about the community organizer not helping with freedom. Our RV community is the better for organizers like Matt Dralle, Doug Reeves, and the many local RVator chapter officers. Thank your god or gods for those countless organizers of our many communities! Ralph Finch Davis, CA RV-9A QB-SA > Remember it is the Solder, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee > your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!


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    Time: 02:50:48 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Was going to post the email that Ralph thought fit to send to me in private email but thought better of it so as not to offend any woman or kids that might read this list. A lot of my old list friends are gone because of people like Ralph and RV6ator and their narrow minded opinions and filty worded text messages and no tolerance for people that think different than they do. Just to bad that people like Ralph are such cowards that they well not say in public what they feel must be said in private. Have not been on this list as long as some but have been here longer than most. Its not fun anymore and as the group of RV builders get larger seem the mentality of builders.....well never mind. See ya all later. Bye Jerry Springer first flight RV-6 July 14, 1989 Second customer built RV-6 to take to the skies


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    Time: 03:21:10 PM PST US
    From: Jerry Springer <jsflyrv@verizon.net>
    Subject: Just for the rcord
    *_IT WAS NOT_* Ralph E. Capen That sent me the email


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    Time: 03:39:31 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Just for the rcord
    Thanks Jerry! Don't know what fray I didn't get in to - but it sounds like I'm glad I didn't. Ralph E. Capen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Springer" <jsflyrv@verizon.net> Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 6:15 PM Subject: RV-List: Just for the rcord > > > *_IT WAS NOT_* > > > Ralph E. Capen > > > That sent me the email > > >


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    Time: 05:11:25 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Yes, Jerry, it makes you and I smokin' each other seem kind of innocent and uplifting now, doesn't it? Some of those 4,000 hours (or was it 40,000?) that the guy spent flying would have been better spent in an etiquette class with heavy emphasis on grammar appropriate to the setting. What bugged me most about that little episode of low-life diatribe was that it was directed at someone who has been particularly willing to help out anyone who asked for help AND that it totally missed the carefully defined point that was being made. No wonder thoughtful people think twice before posting now. Can you imagine a gentleman like the late Eustace Bowhay participating in the same conversation? I don't suppose it really matters now, but I am quite sure I read in his autobiography that Bob Hoover taught himself aerobatics. That doesn't mean that I could or should or would, but it does mean that some far better pilots that the Ultimate Authority with the Limited Vocabulary (UALV) have decided for themselves contrary to UALV'S edict. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. Was going to post the email that Ralph thought fit to send to me in private email but thought better of it so as not to offend any woman or kids that might read this list. A lot of my old list friends are gone because of people like Ralph and RV6ator and their narrow minded opinions and filty worded text messages and no tolerance for people that think different than they do. Just to bad that people like Ralph are such cowards that they well not say in public what they feel must be said in private. Have not been on this list as long as some but have been here longer than most. Its not fun anymore and as the group of RV builders get larger seem the mentality of builders.....well never mind. See ya all later. Bye Jerry Springer first flight RV-6 July 14, 1989 Second customer built RV-6 to take to the skies


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    Time: 05:21:12 PM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    It would appear that Bob Hoover got his aerobatic training via the military: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hoover Bob Hoover learned to fly at Nashville's Berry Field while working at a local grocery store to pay for the flight training.[1] He enlisted in the Tennessee National Guard and was sent for pilot training with the Army.[2] He was sent to Casablanca where his first major assignment of the war was test flying the assembled aircraft ready for service. Terry Watson wrote: > I don't suppose it really matters now, but I am quite sure I read in his > autobiography that Bob Hoover taught himself aerobatics. That doesn't mean > that I could or should or would, but it does mean that some far better > pilots that the Ultimate Authority with the Limited Vocabulary (UALV) have > decided for themselves contrary to UALV'S edict. > > Terry


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    Time: 05:21:12 PM PST US
    From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
    Subject: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Sorry to see you go, Jerry. I've valued your viewpoint and input (even when I didn't necessarily agree on occasional points) - But, having been on the list since 1992 or so, I agree that many of the gentlemen who knew how to civilly disagree have since departed the list. Now we have one less. Good fortunate and fly safe. Ed Ed Anderson Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered Matthews, NC eanderson@carolina.rr.com http://www.andersonee.com http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html http://www.flyrotary.com/ http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. Was going to post the email that Ralph thought fit to send to me in private email but thought better of it so as not to offend any woman or kids that might read this list. A lot of my old list friends are gone because of people like Ralph and RV6ator and their narrow minded opinions and filty worded text messages and no tolerance for people that think different than they do. Just to bad that people like Ralph are such cowards that they well not say in public what they feel must be said in private. Have not been on this list as long as some but have been here longer than most. Its not fun anymore and as the group of RV builders get larger seem the mentality of builders.....well never mind. See ya all later. Bye Jerry Springer first flight RV-6 July 14, 1989 Second customer built RV-6 to take to the skies __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3267 (20080714) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.


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    Time: 08:11:07 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: RV-8 Part # F-601Y
    Dear Listers, On Drawing 60 of the RV-8 plans, there is a part called out numbered "F-601Y" which appears to be an angle of some sort about 2" long. It seems to be used to hold the hinge pins for the rear, upper cowling. Other than a reference to it on Drawing 60 where its simply shown as a dotted drawing for positional reference, I can't seem to find where it is shown in 3D for fabrication nor can I find it among my pre-punched bits and pieces. Am I just not seeing the 3D drawing for some reason?? Thanks! Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mykitlog.com/dralle Cowling's Almost Done!


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    Time: 08:17:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    From: Larry Bowen <larry@bowenaero.com>
    Ed, Looks like since Oct, 1997: http://bit.ly/2WarDq And I've been on since July of the same year: http://bit.ly/1lRacl Ah, the memories... Time flies! -- Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>wrote: > > Sorry to see you go, Jerry. I've valued your viewpoint and input (even > when > I didn't necessarily agree on occasional points) - But, having been on the > list since 1992 or so, I agree that many of the gentlemen who knew how to > civilly disagree have since departed the list. Now we have one less. > > Good fortunate and fly safe. > > Ed > > Ed Anderson > > Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered > > Matthews, NC > > eanderson@carolina.rr.com > > http://www.andersonee.com > > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/index.html > > http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > http://members.cox.net/rogersda/rotary/configs.htm#N494BW > > http://www.rotaryaviation.com/Rotorhead%20Truth.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Springer > Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:47 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. > > > Was going to post the email that Ralph thought fit to send to me in > private email but thought better of it so as not to offend > any woman or kids that might read this list. > A lot of my old list friends are gone because of people like Ralph and > RV6ator and their narrow minded opinions and filty worded text messages > and no > tolerance for people that think different than they do. Just to bad that > people like Ralph are such cowards that they well not say in public > what they feel must be said in private. > > Have not been on this list as long as some but have been here longer > than most. Its not fun anymore and as the group > of RV builders get larger seem the mentality of builders.....well never > mind. > See ya all later. > > Bye > > Jerry Springer > first flight RV-6 July 14, 1989 > Second customer built RV-6 to take to the skies > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3267 (20080714) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature > database 3267 (20080714) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >


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    Time: 09:13:56 PM PST US
    From: Mike Divan <n343fd@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Solder, etc. Was: Loop problem
    Wow who knew my bad spelling would be so entertaining :)=0A=0AOn the flying side I had a great flight in my RV today. Someone needed a lift from Fallb rook (L18) to Camerrio (KCMA) and without a doubt I spelled it wrong. So I took off from KCCB for a nice flight to L18 picked him up and headed over t o the coast. A real nice and SMOOTH flight at 2500 all the way up the coast to just north of Long Beach where we headed inland to go the class Brovo o n the Mini Rout (Probabily spelled that wrong also) and on up to KCMA. A BE AUTIFUL flight and all the So Cal Controllers were great. After a ok landin g at KCMA I hade a wonderful tri tip sammy then back in the air for the tri p back to KCCB. I skerted the southern edge of the TFR for the "Station" fi re and boy-o-boy did it get close to some of the houses in my former first in area WOW. A nice landing at KCCB stoped to talk to some of the RV dudes and finished up finding a buyer for my ole turn and bank - how cool it that !=0A=0AAll in all a wonderful day of flying.=0A=0AI LOVE MY RV6! and I aint going to use spell check ;)=0A=0A Mike Divan=0AN64GH - RV6 (flying) =0Ahtt p://n64gh.blogspot.com/=0AFREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!=0ARemember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast G uard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ralph Finch <rgf@dcn.davis.c a.us>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 9:49: 07 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: Solder, etc. Was: Loop problem=0A=0A =0AHa ha. A ctuallyit=99s true:=0A =0ASolder:=0Aused for the LED position lights in my RV, to keep me free from collisions at=0Anight.=0ASailor:=0Aseveral o f them sent my RV kit to the Philippine Islands and brought it back as=0Aa QB, giving me more free time.=0AAirman=0A(and Airwoman): Over the years the se professional flyers instructed and taught=0Ame the freedom of flight.=0A Cost=0AGuard: My good wife guards our family=99s costs!=0A =0ABut=0AI disagree about the community organizer not helping with freedom. Our RV =0Acommunity is the better for organizers like Matt Dralle, Doug Reeves, an d the=0Amany local RVator chapter officers. Thank your god or gods for tho se=0Acountless organizers of our many communities!=0A =0ARalph=0AFinch=0ADa vis,=0ACA=0ARV-9A=0AQB-SA=0A =0A> Remember it is the Solder,=0A>Sailor, Air man, Marine and Cost Guard that guarantee > your freedom NOT the=0A>"commun ======================0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:52:03 PM PST US
    From: "Terry Watson" <terry@tcwatson.com>
    Subject: Loop problem --- the rest of the story.
    Kelly, I think we are both right. Here are a couple of quotes out of Bob Hoover's "Forever Flying": "... I also read a remarkable book by an aviator named Bernie Ley, with whom I became good friends many years later. The book introduced me to the world of aerobatics. It detailed the aerodynamics involved and how each routine was performed with precision timing. I studied the maneuvers until I knew every one by heart." That was when he was 15. A little later in the book, just after solo at age 16 in a Piper Cub, he says: "To lick the motion sickness, I pushed myself to the limit by doing wingovers and stalls and spins. Every time I found I could handle one maneuver, I went on to the next one until I conquered the airsickness. Each time it got easier, and finally I could perform all the routine without much discomfort. I didn't have aerobatic training, but I had read about and memorized how to execute the maneuvers." A bit of an aside here: I was in a tent at the Arlington (WA) air show one year, buying this book from Bob Hoover while a Harmon Rocket pilot from British Columbia was performing his routine. The announcer was filling all the voids between the engine noise with his prattle, and I heard him say that the plane was a modification of one of Richard VanGrunsven's designs, and the Van himself was the smoothest pilot this announcer had ever seen. I was watching Bob Hoover sign my book at that moment and remember thinking that that was indeed a great compliment to Van in the presence of this man. When I went through USAF pilot training in the mid-60's, some of my classmates were already quite accomplished pilots. All of the German Luftwaffe students were glider pilots and the one German Navy pilot in our class already had his wings. One of the American students was an experienced crop duster from Idaho and I think most of us had at least a private pilot rating. But a highlight of the training for me was the aerobatics in first the T-37 and then the T-38. From the testimony of one of his instructors in this book, Bob Hoover was doing most of the teaching on his dual aerobatic flights in Army Air Corps pilot training. Here's something else from Bob Hoover's book that RV builders might enjoy: ... but back then [1940] people taught themselves to fly. They could buy what would be known now as kit planes, assemble them, learn to fly, and solo in a month..... they just winged it and used trial and error until they soloed and got their license." Bob Hoover is the only military student pilot I have ever heard of who was asked to perform an air show for his own graduating class. OK, that's enough. It is an entertaining and inspiring book. Terry -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 5:19 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Loop problem --- the rest of the story. It would appear that Bob Hoover got his aerobatic training via the military: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hoover Bob Hoover learned to fly at Nashville's Berry Field while working at a local grocery store to pay for the flight training.[1] He enlisted in the Tennessee National Guard and was sent for pilot training with the Army.[2] He was sent to Casablanca where his first major assignment of the war was test flying the assembled aircraft ready for service. Terry Watson wrote: > I don't suppose it really matters now, but I am quite sure I read in his > autobiography that Bob Hoover taught himself aerobatics. That doesn't mean > that I could or should or would, but it does mean that some far better > pilots that the Ultimate Authority with the Limited Vocabulary (UALV) have > decided for themselves contrary to UALV'S edict. > > Terry




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