---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/24/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:14 AM - Re: Inspection Plate (Bobby Hester) 2. 06:21 AM - Re: IO-320 Fuel System Diagram?? (Mike De Lange) 3. 10:54 AM - Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (Ian) 4. 11:24 AM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (HCRV6@comcast.net) 5. 11:24 AM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (David E. Nelson) 6. 11:43 AM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (Linn Walters) 7. 11:43 AM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (Richard Tasker) 8. 11:50 AM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (Brian Meyette) 9. 01:17 PM - Re: Painting The Baffling... (Charles Kuss) 10. 02:43 PM - tail spring (glen matejcek) 11. 03:06 PM - Re: tail spring (Larry Pardue) 12. 06:01 PM - tailspring (glen matejcek) 13. 06:34 PM - Re: Re: IO-320 Fuel System Diagram?? (Ralph Finch) 14. 07:32 PM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (Vanremog@aol.com) 15. 08:38 PM - Re: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A (charlie heathco) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:28 AM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspection Plate The only way I knew that mine leaked was because I have the brain box for my engine monitor under one of those and after I washed the aircraft my engine monitor would not work properly until it dried out. I never saw any water so it was very little. After sealing, it no longer leaks. They are very need on my plane, and glad I did it. ---- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site: http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/2009AugDecFlying.htm Bobby Hester wrote: > Yes I did. Yes it did leak but not after using a sealant just > recently, I picked it up at the auto parts store it was not RTV but is > something that does not harden, I put a small amount around it and > installed it. Washed the aircraft (the only time I noticed it leak) an > it did not leak. > ---- > Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY > Visit my web site: > http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/2009AugDecFlying.htm > > > > > David Schaefer wrote: >> Has anyone in the 6 or 7 community cut 'inspection' plates into the >> forward coweling just ahead of the windshield for access to that >> area? If so I'd love to see pictures, how you did it, does it leak >> etc? Please contact me off-line. >> >> Thanks.... for the help. >> >> >> >> David W. Schaefer >> RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" >> TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT EFIS >> www.n142ds.com > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:11 AM PST US From: Mike De Lange Subject: RV-List: Re: IO-320 Fuel System Diagram?? Thanks to everyone who replied - it was very much appreciated and every bit of information helps at this point. I ended up spending almost an hour on the phone with Bart from Aerosport yesterday and he helped me hash out the system and answered every question I had. Yea - I was over-thinking and over-complicating the whole system. Mike __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:01 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A From: Ian My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and draughtproof?? Beautiful flying day! Ian Brown Bromont, QC, C-GOHM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:24 AM PST US From: HCRV6@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A I solved the leaking Van's air vent by replacing them with the beautifully machined aluminum vents that screw together and clamp that leaky bottom corner joint airtight. The leak around the control stick requires boots around the aileron push rods at the fuselage side and an airtight stick boot. Those two things solved 90% of the cold air leaks in my RV-6 slider. Now my wife just complains about the slight draft on the back of her neck from the rear canopy slide. I haven't bothered to work on that yet. Harry Crosby RV-6 N16CX, 616 hours ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 10:37:50 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and draughtproof?? Beautiful flying day! Ian Brown Bromont, QC, C-GOHM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:47 AM PST US From: "David E. Nelson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A Hi Ian, For the push-rod boots: http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/journal/cold.html#boots For the air-vents, I bought a set (very nice metal ones) from Stein Air: http://www.steinair.com/eyeballvents.htm Regards, /\/elson ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring. ~~ On Thu, 24 Sep 2009, Ian wrote: > My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting > of the eyeball vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result in a slightly open joint, > especially under air pressure. What have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking automotive > gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and draughtproof?? > > Beautiful flying day! > Ian Brown > Bromont, QC, C-GOHM > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:57 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A Ian wrote: > My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've > noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick > holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. > The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the > mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result > in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have > others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the > stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking > automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in > them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and > draughtproof?? Get ripstop nylon from a fabric store. Comes in lots of colors! You can also order stick covers and aileron pushrod covers from most experimental interior suppliers. Linn > > Beautiful flying day! > Ian Brown > Bromont, QC, C-GOHM > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:58 AM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A The main source of air coming up through your control stick area comes in from the wings. An aileron boot such as Flightline Interiors sells would go a long way to removing that as a source of cold. You could also make your own if you are good with a sewing machine. Just use coated nylon or similar and make a cone shaped assembly that attached to your aileron pushrod and the edges of the holes in the sidewall. See http://www.flightlineinteriors.com/products/construction/default.asp Dick Tasker Ian wrote: > My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler > we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control > stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball > vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on > the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to > result in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What > have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over > the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice > looking automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little > holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible > and draughtproof?? > > Beautiful flying day! > Ian Brown > Bromont, QC, C-GOHM > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:40 AM PST US From: "Brian Meyette" Subject: RE: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A try Abby at FLightline Interiors for aileron rod boots http://www.flightlineinteriors.com/ _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ian Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and draughtproof?? Beautiful flying day! Ian Brown Bromont, QC, C-GOHM Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 05:52:00 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:17:20 PM PST US From: Charles Kuss Subject: Re: RV-List: Painting The Baffling... Matt, I've never chromed baffling. However, I used to own a motorcycle shop. I did a LOT of custom work for folks. Aluminum can be chrome plated. That said, it's not really a good idea. The coefficient of expansion differs quite a bit between aluminum and chromium. This means that the chrome will tend to flake off over time if the parts are exposed to temperature extremes. My experience shows that cold, rather than heat is the real problem. High humidity and cold makes it even worse. Chrome will also become a maintenance headache if you live or fly [low altitude] near salt water. I will second Peter Laurence's earlier suggestion to Alodine, epoxy prime and paint (polyurethane) the baffle parts. Lots of RV guys here have done it with excellent results. They even paint the crankcases, sump and accessory cover like that. Alodine improves the adhesion of the primer to the aluminum. Just my 2 cents. Charlie Kuss > Has anyone ever chromed their baffling? That would > look super cool. Can you chrome 2024-T3? How > much would that cost compared to power coating? > > Am I fussing too much under the hood? ;-) > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com > FWF Baffling, Intake, and Governor... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:43:05 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: tail spring Howdy- Does anyone on the list know what material is used for the tail wheel springs? TIA- glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:06:01 PM PST US From: Larry Pardue Subject: Re: RV-List: tail spring Per the drawings - 6150 steel, heat treated and tempered to 42-44 Rockwell "C" hardness. Larry On Sep 24, 2009, at 3:35 PM, glen matejcek wrote: > > Howdy- > > Does anyone on the list know what material is used for the tail > wheel springs? > > TIA- > > glen matejcek > aerobubba@earthlink.net > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:01:54 PM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: tailspring Thanks Larry- my plans do not have that info. glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:47 PM PST US From: "Ralph Finch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: IO-320 Fuel System Diagram?? Say--can you summarize what you learned and what you will do? Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike De Lange Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: IO-320 Fuel System Diagram?? Thanks to everyone who replied - it was very much appreciated and every bit of information helps at this point. I ended up spending almost an hour on the phone with Bart from Aerosport yesterday and he helped me hash out the system and answered every question I had. Yea - I was over-thinking and over-complicating the whole system. Mike ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:32:46 PM PST US From: Vanremog@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A rainproof poncho material in olive drab is what I used for the pushrod boots to the fuselage wall. The stickboots are DJs. Very little airflow when you do the pushrod boots. In a message dated 9/24/2009 10:54:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ixb@videotron.ca writes: My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and draughtproof?? Beautiful flying day! Ian Brown Bromont, QC, C-GOHM ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:30 PM PST US From: "charlie heathco" Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A The thing I do re air inlets is put a strip of duct tape over the inlet Never had one blow off. Its aboujt time to do that again. (pull of when warms up) Charlie H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linn Walters" Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 13:35 Subject: Re: RV-List: Leaky air inlets on RV-9A Ian wrote: > My RV-9A is starting to chill my wife! As the weather gets cooler we've > noticed significant amounts of air coming in through the control stick > holes and also out of the edges of the mounting of the eyeball vents. > The Van's drawing calls for the removal of the fourth hole on the > mounting (the one you would catch your leg on) and this seems to result > in a slightly open joint, especially under air pressure. What have > others done about both problems. I realize putting a boot over the > stick will help that area, but unfortunately I just bought nice looking > automotive gear shift boots that have lots of fancy little holes in > them! Any ideas for what material would be light, flexible and > draughtproof?? Get ripstop nylon from a fabric store. Comes in lots of colors! You can also order stick covers and aileron pushrod covers from most experimental interior suppliers. Linn > > Beautiful flying day! > Ian Brown > Bromont, QC, C-GOHM > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.