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1. 02:44 AM - Re: Fuel System Diagram (Charles Kuss)
2. 02:45 AM - Re: wiring in a music input (Charles Kuss)
3. 04:22 AM - Re: Fuel System Diagram (Charles Kuss)
4. 06:20 AM - Re: wiring in a music input ()
5. 07:10 AM - Re: Fuel System Diagram (Glen Matejcek)
6. 09:27 AM - Re: Re: Fuel System Diagram (Panama Red)
7. 09:38 AM - Re: Fuel System Diagram (Mike De Lange)
8. 06:04 PM - Re: Fuel System Diagram (William Davis)
9. 07:43 PM - Re: Re: Fuel System Diagram (Vanremog@aol.com)
10. 09:13 PM - Tip-up Canopy Lift Lock (Joe & Jan Connell)
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
Mike,
Most folks don't use a gascolator on a fuel injected engine. Unless you plan to
use an Andair gascolator, most others are NOT designed for the sealing surfaces
to withstand the 25 psi of a fuel injected system. That means you'll probably
have fuel leaks with the electric pump turned on.
I would suggest that you do one of three things.
#1 Simply eliminate the gascolator
#2 Swap places between your gascolator and the 6ILA fuel filter.
#3 Install a gascolator [or 4ILA fuel filter] in each wing root and eliminate the
fuel filter and gascolator in the positions shown in your diagram. The 4ILA
is a slightly smaller version of the 6ILA fuel filter. It is easier to fit into
the wing root area. The Flow Ezy 6ILA is sold by both Vans and Airflow Performance.
RV-9A builder Chris Heitman's company, Pegasus Auto Racing carries the
4ILA filter. See
http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=3469
Charlie Kuss
> Mike De Lange wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Here's a preliminary fuel system overview diagram for
> those who are interested. It's for an IO-320 with the
> Precision Airmotive fuel injection system. It's very
> simple - a lot more simplistic than I thought the whole
> system would be. I still haven't decided if I'm going
> with the Van's boost pump kit or the one from Andair
> yet. Any suggestions? :)
> >
> >
> > Mike
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| Subject: | Re: wiring in a music input |
Jason,
Another option for a stereo intercom is the Flightcom 403LSA. See
http://www.flightcom.net/intercoms/403lsa-intercom.php
Charlie Kuss
--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Jason Edwards <flyboyedwards@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Jason Edwards <flyboyedwards@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RV-List: wiring in a music input
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 9:34 PM
> I
> have an Icom IC-A200 radio with a sigtronics SPA-400. I
> would like to wire in an input jack for an Ipod. Can anyone
> advise on how to do this? I don't have a jack for the
> Ipod yet, because I don't know which one to pick.
>
> The airplane is all complete, and the wiring in done.
> I'd just like to add the input.
> Any wiring guru's out there?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason Edwards
> RV-4 N28EW
> Richland Center, Wisconsin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
Mike,
I would strongly suggest you read the post on the VAF WWW site by Don Rivera [owner
of Airflow Performance] at the link below. See
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showpost.php?p=354763&postcount=4
The entire thread can be found below
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=47463
Charlie Kuss
--- On Tue, 9/29/09, Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel System Diagram
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 29, 2009, 5:35 AM
> Mike,
> Most folks don't use a gascolator on a fuel injected
> engine. Unless you plan to use an Andair gascolator, most
> others are NOT designed for the sealing surfaces to
> withstand the 25 psi of a fuel injected system. That means
> you'll probably have fuel leaks with the electric pump
> turned on.
> I would suggest that you do one of three things.
> #1 Simply eliminate the gascolator
> #2 Swap places between your gascolator and the 6ILA fuel
> filter.
> #3 Install a gascolator [or 4ILA fuel filter] in each wing
> root and eliminate the fuel filter and gascolator in the
> positions shown in your diagram. The 4ILA is a slightly
> smaller version of the 6ILA fuel filter. It is easier to fit
> into the wing root area. The Flow Ezy 6ILA is sold by both
> Vans and Airflow Performance. RV-9A builder Chris Heitman's
> company, Pegasus Auto Racing carries the 4ILA filter. See
>
> http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=3469
>
> Charlie Kuss
>
> > Mike De Lange wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > Here's a preliminary fuel system overview diagram
> for
> > those who are interested. It's for an IO-320 with
> the
> > Precision Airmotive fuel injection system. It's
> very
> > simple - a lot more simplistic than I thought the
> whole
> > system would be. I still haven't decided if I'm
> going
> > with the Van's boost pump kit or the one from Andair
> > yet. Any suggestions? :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wiring in a music input |
I bought the Softcom Stereo Icom and it comes with a wiring harness for just over
$200. Not yet flying but it is almost installed.
Ron Burnett
RV-6A finishing
Do not archieve
---- Charles Kuss <chaskuss@yahoo.com> wrote:
============
Jason,
Another option for a stereo intercom is the Flightcom 403LSA. See
http://www.flightcom.net/intercoms/403lsa-intercom.php
Charlie Kuss
--- On Mon, 9/28/09, Jason Edwards <flyboyedwards@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Jason Edwards <flyboyedwards@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RV-List: wiring in a music input
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Date: Monday, September 28, 2009, 9:34 PM
> I
> have an Icom IC-A200 radio with a sigtronics SPA-400. I
> would like to wire in an input jack for an Ipod. Can anyone
> advise on how to do this? I don't have a jack for the
> Ipod yet, because I don't know which one to pick.
>
> The airplane is all complete, and the wiring in done.
> I'd just like to add the input.
> Any wiring guru's out there?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jason Edwards
> RV-4 N28EW
> Richland Center, Wisconsin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
>Why do you need another water separator when the tanks
>should do the job at the quick drains?
Although one can argue they "should" do the job, I have drained quite a bit of
trash and water out of gascolators over the years. Especially from planes with
flush fuel caps. Throw in some acro to stir things up, and now there is water
in the fuel injection system.
To each his own, but my money (and rear end) is on the simple physics of a gascolator.
Glen Matejcek
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
> To each his own, but my money (and rear end) is on the simple physics of a
> gascolator.
Simple physics of the gascolator may get one killed while in sustained
inverted flight!
Bob
RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
I've heard good points and bad about the usage of a gascolator from many people.
But regardless of what I may think about it one way or the other, here in Canada
it's law to install one so I really have no choice.
As for the placement of the fuel flow transducer, if your boost pump is off does
that affect your fuel flow reading at all? I can see the benefit of putting
it where you suggest since it also eliminates another run through the firewall.
Mike
----- Original Message ----
From: William Davis <rvpilot@embarqmail.com>
Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:03:09 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel System Diagram
Hi Mike,
I suggest that you eliminate the gascolator. It is totally unnecessary and a real
source of potential leaks.
It cannot be the lowest point in the system, the lowest points are the tank drains,
and the filter will take care
of any debris. Personally, I would put the flow transducer inside the firewall
down stream of
the boost pump. This gives you a better chance to get a straight run up stream
of it, helps to eliminate
bubbles. This set-up has worked well for me through 4 RV's
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
Mike,
If you gotta have that thing, then figure out some way to mount it
upstream of the boost pump. The boost pump being on or off
will not affect the fuel flow reading other than a momentary blip
when it goes on.
Bill
On Sep 29, 2009, at 12:28 PM, Mike De Lange wrote:
>
> I've heard good points and bad about the usage of a gascolator from
> many people. But regardless of what I may think about it one way
> or the other, here in Canada it's law to install one so I really
> have no choice.
>
> As for the placement of the fuel flow transducer, if your boost
> pump is off does that affect your fuel flow reading at all? I can
> see the benefit of putting it where you suggest since it also
> eliminates another run through the firewall.
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: William Davis <rvpilot@embarqmail.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 1:03:09 PM
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fuel System Diagram
>
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I suggest that you eliminate the gascolator. It is totally
> unnecessary and a real source of potential leaks.
> It cannot be the lowest point in the system, the lowest points are
> the tank drains, and the filter will take care
> of any debris. Personally, I would put the flow transducer inside
> the firewall down stream of
> the boost pump. This gives you a better chance to get a straight
> run up stream of it, helps to eliminate
> bubbles. This set-up has worked well for me through 4 RV's
>
> Bill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel System Diagram |
Bob-
Please explain how this would occur provided that the device were properly
installed and purged of water before flight.
-GV
In a message dated 9/29/2009 9:28:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
panamared505@brier.net writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: "Panama Red" <panamared505@brier.net>
> To each his own, but my money (and rear end) is on the simple physics of
a
> gascolator.
Simple physics of the gascolator may get one killed while in sustained
inverted flight!
Bob
RV6 "Wicked Witch of the West"
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| Subject: | Tip-up Canopy Lift Lock |
If you have a tip-up canopy on your RV, there is a lock that can
attached to the gas strut. It prevents the canopy from slamming shut
from wind gusts or prop wash. To lower the canopy, slide the locking
rod away from the body of the gas cylinder.
It's available from Advance Auto Parts for $8.49, Part number 8200.
Google "pylon lift lock" or check the following link...
http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_LIFT-L
OCK-Pylon_6070434-P_N3608_A%7CGRP2037
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