RV-List Digest Archive

Sat 11/21/09


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:18 AM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching (Michael Kraus)
     2. 03:34 AM - Re: Epic Riveting Day (Jim Sears)
     3. 10:07 AM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching (Matt Dralle)
     4. 11:35 AM - 6A elevator trim tab set-up (thomas sargent)
     5. 12:55 PM - Re: Work Bench Cover (Glen Matejcek)
     6. 02:21 PM - Gas tank vent line tips (StooDDS@aol.com)
     7. 03:21 PM - RV10 parts and propeller for sale (LarryMcFarland)
     8. 03:22 PM - Re: 6A elevator trim tab set-up (rv6n@optonline.net)
     9. 03:44 PM - In Flight HD Videos (Robin Marks)
    10. 03:44 PM - Re: Epic Riveting Day (rv6n@optonline.net)
    11. 05:06 PM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching (Ralph E. Capen)
    12. 05:21 PM - Re: Gas tank vent line tips (j. davis)
    13. 06:07 PM - Re: Epic Riveting Day (Bobby Hester)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:18:13 AM PST US
    From: Michael Kraus <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net>
    Subject: Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching
    What I have done in the past is to extend the line from the wing down through the mount so you can attach the line externally, then push the pitot with the attached line into the mount and secure. Then later it is servicable without opening the wing. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2009, at 11:26 PM, "emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> wrote: > > Folks, > I have a Gretz Heated Pitot Tube and mount. Unfortunately the pitot > tube > fitting does not extend far enough to be able to attach the line to > the tube > once the tube is in the mount. I'd like to hear from anyone that > has found > the solution to this problem so I don't have to "reinvent the wheel". > Marty in Brentwood TN, RV-6A finish assembly. > >


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    Time: 03:34:08 AM PST US
    From: "Jim Sears" <jmsj@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Re: Epic Riveting Day
    >> Hang in there Norman, I've just past 12 years and finally moved into a >> hanger and hung the wings on my RV-6A this month. Marty in Brentwood TN<< Keep it up, guys! I don't feel so bad about my -7A sitting in the shop collecting dust. :-) Jim Sears in KY do not archive


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    Time: 10:07:44 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching
    At 08:26 PM 11/20/2009 Friday, you wrote: > >Folks, >I have a Gretz Heated Pitot Tube and mount. Unfortunately the pitot tube >fitting does not extend far enough to be able to attach the line to the tube >once the tube is in the mount. I'd like to hear from anyone that has found >the solution to this problem so I don't have to "reinvent the wheel". >Marty in Brentwood TN, RV-6A finish assembly. Hi Marty, Here are some detailed pictures of my Gretz Heated Pitot in the RV-8. Might give you some ideas: http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2982&log=81655&row=151 http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2982&log=81656&row=150 http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2982&log=81657&row=149 http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2982&log=81658&row=148 Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com Windscreen Installation (ack)...


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    Time: 11:35:32 AM PST US
    Subject: 6A elevator trim tab set-up
    From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
    I have the manual trim cable installed enough to measure up/down deflection on the trim tab. The manual says 35 deg. down (for nose-up trim) and 25 deg. up. How is that measured? I assume that since the hinge is at the top skin, that you measure it from elev. top skin to trim tab top skin. If that is right, I have about 34 deg. down, but only about 21 deg. up, using the full travel of the trim cable (about 2.3"). Is this something I have to fix? The only way to fix it that I can see is to rivet some aluminum onto the arm of the trim tab so I could make a new attachment point for the cable which would be a little closer to the tab. That would get me more deflection for my 2.3" of motion. The throw of the cable could be increased by removing the locking ring. I don't think I want to do that. Another issue is that the nut that secures the end of the cable. The one which is welded to the little piece of steel. It is about 1/4" above the plate that it is supposed to be pop riveted to. Is this typical? There is no way I can attach it to the cover plate without a substantial spacer. I'm also thinking of holding it in with a couple plate nuts rather than the pop rivets. Seems like the cover plate would be next to impossible to remove if the steel plate was riveted to it. Screws would make it easy to remove. Has any one else had these problems? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A final assembly.


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    Time: 12:55:38 PM PST US
    From: Glen Matejcek <aerobubba@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Work Bench Cover
    I used non-skid rug underlayment. It appears to be like a fine mesh, knotted netting that has been dipped in a soft foam rubber material. The end result is a very flexible sheet of what looks like small beads stuck to each other. The softness cushions the wing skins, the non-skid aspect keeps your work from sliding around, and the gaps / holes in the material provide a place for drilling and deburring chips etc to go such that they can't scratch the aluminum. It can be gotten as drawer liner, but it is MUCH cheaper to get it as rug underlayment from Target, Wally world, or some such. Glen Matejcek


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    Time: 02:21:20 PM PST US
    From: StooDDS@aol.com
    Subject: Gas tank vent line tips
    These plastic tips are perfect as vent line caps, just ProSeal them on! _https://www.pattersondental.com/app.aspx?cmd=get_item&id=18669_ (https://www.pattersondental.com/app.aspx?cmd=get_item&id=18669) They are unaffected by gasoline and are cheap, but come in bags of 100----------------so, I've got 90+ that I will never use (I don't like them for their intended purpose in the dental office). Contact me off list for an address to send a suitable SASE and I will mail you 4 for free. Stewart Willoughby, RV6 (fuselage)


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    Time: 03:21:00 PM PST US
    From: LarryMcFarland <larry@macsmachine.com>
    Subject: RV10 parts and propeller for sale
    Hi guys, Ive been asked to post a page to support the sale of two sets of parts donated to EAA Chapter 75 for two persons that have gone west. One was building an RV10 and the other had a controllable variable pitch. propeller. Either is a bargain for the person in need of them. More specific information is on a page at the following link. www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm <http://www.macsmachine.com/html/itemsforsale.htm> Id not post these, but when people pass, we do what we can to help. Thank you for your understanding. Larry McFarland 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com N601EZ and a Zenith group subscriber do not archive


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    Time: 03:22:57 PM PST US
    From: rv6n@optonline.net
    Subject: Re: 6A elevator trim tab set-up
    Tom, I would not worry about the small deflection problem because you will find that the trim tab is so sensitive that very little movement will be required of it. As for your anchor plate that is a different story. Why is it so far removed from the cover plate? It may be that if it were positioned properly you would recover the lost deflection. Are your stab/tab holes in the correct location? Bob Bales RV6 100 hr TT


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    Time: 03:44:11 PM PST US
    Subject: In Flight HD Videos
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    Anyone out there recording in flight HD videos? I recall seeing a tail mounted bullet camera and some semi-wide angle video that was fantastic. I want to record in flight videos in a similar way. I thought about mounting a HD bullet camera in the fiberglass section of the vertical stabilizer but I cannot find any 12V HD DVR's that are an acceptable size and weight. Most of them are low resolution Security DVR's. A second fly in the ointment is I want to pull the audio in from the audio panel vs. just an open air mic. There seem to be some combination choices like these: Really Small but not HD and no audio input. Or this one: 1080P but no external audio feed. This is an all in one unit so no remote mounting as you have to have access to turn on/off The nice part about this is it's movable Same with this unit: 1080P but no external audio feed. This is an all in one unit so no remote mounting as you have to have access to turn on/off The nice part about this is it's movable Now I made a BIG mistake by mounting two DVD players in my RV-10 when portable ones would have been a much better choice due to advances in technology but I figured mounting an HD camera is not that big a deal as the most important part is the capture device (DVR) but as I can't find any (except the Sony for $3,000) maybe the helmet style is best. I believe this is another example of something I want/need now but the market has not quite caught up with my requirements. Any guidance would be appreciated. Robin


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    Time: 03:44:34 PM PST US
    From: rv6n@optonline.net
    Subject: Re: Epic Riveting Day
    Guys, 12 years build time, 13 years build time, it is what it is but I hope what happened to me does not happen to you. I took me 6 years to build my RV6. Three months after completion I had a heart attack and a triple by-pass surgery six months after that. That was two years ago and I still have no medical. However, the good news is today I saw a great AME and believe I will be flying again real soon. So get to work before it is too late and you begin wishing you were building an LSA. Besides, nothing flies better than an RV. Bob Bales ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Sears Subject: Re: RV-List: Epic Riveting Day > > >> Hang in there Norman, I've just past 12 years and finally > moved into a > >> hanger and hung the wings on my RV-6A this month. > Marty in Brentwood TN<< > > Keep it up, guys! I don't feel so bad about my -7A sitting in > the shop > collecting dust. :-) > > Jim Sears in KY > do not archive > > > > > >


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    Time: 05:06:18 PM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching
    Marty, I made a pair of short AN4 tubes that connect inside the mast and extend outside (up in th the wing). There I have a set of AN4 connectors that allow me to disconnect the 'mess from within the access panel. Ralph Capen ----- Original Message ----- From: "emrath" <emrath@comcast.net> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 11:26 PM Subject: RV-List: Gretz Heated Pitot Tube attaching > > Folks, > I have a Gretz Heated Pitot Tube and mount. Unfortunately the pitot tube > fitting does not extend far enough to be able to attach the line to the > tube > once the tube is in the mount. I'd like to hear from anyone that has > found > the solution to this problem so I don't have to "reinvent the wheel". > Marty in Brentwood TN, RV-6A finish assembly. > > >


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    Time: 05:21:08 PM PST US
    From: "j. davis" <jd@lawsonimaging.ca>
    Subject: Re: Gas tank vent line tips
    StooDDS@aol.com wrote: > These plastic tips are perfect as vent line caps, just ProSeal them on! Sort of depends on the diameter of your vent line ;') If that information is on the web page, I can't find it... Thanks! -- Regards, J. Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb restoring the Johnston Special http://cleco.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Davis, M.Sc. | (computer science) | | *NIX consulting, SysAdmin | email: jd at lawsonimaging.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ and now... Deep Thought #30, by Jack Handy Ambition is like a frog sitting on a Venus Flytrap. The flytrap can bite and bite, but it won't bother the frog because it only has little tiny plant teeth. But some other stuff could happen and it could be like ambition.


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    Time: 06:07:38 PM PST US
    From: Bobby Hester <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net>
    Subject: Re: Epic Riveting Day
    Marty, what airport are you at. I might stop by sometime I'm out and about. ---- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY Check out the latest on my website at: http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/RVSite.htm emrath wrote: > > Hang in there Norman, I've just past 12 years and finally moved into a > hanger and hung the wings on my RV-6A this month. > Marty in Brentwood TN > Do Not Archive > > > Time: 09:59:41 PM PST US > From: Norman Hunger <norman96@telus.net> > Subject: RV-List: Epic Riveting Day > > > Today was an epic day in my 13 year build. I pounded about 30 rivets > and the construction log says that hasn't happened since 2002. The bad > news came later when I discovered I hadn't dimpled the next row of > holes to their final size of screw so I had to drill everything out > again. Tomorrow I start even further behind as I will now shim it to > perfection at the bottom corners. This isn't starting off too good... > > Norman Hunger > RV6A Delta BC > Do not archive > > >




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