---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/30/09: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:20 AM - [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:55 AM - Mystery Washer (emrath) 2. 06:52 AM - Flop Tubes 4-Sale (J Riffel) 3. 06:56 AM - Re: Mystery Washer (David E. Nelson) 4. 07:57 AM - RV lands on street in phx (thomas sargent) 5. 09:23 AM - Re: Mystery Washer (Mike Robertson) 6. 09:23 AM - Re: Mystery Washer (Dale Ensing) 7. 10:17 AM - Wing cart pointer (Richard Wagoner) 8. 11:47 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/09 (Jerry2DT@aol.com) 9. 11:52 AM - Re: Wing cart pointer (David E. Nelson) 10. 11:52 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/09 (Jerry2DT@aol.com) 11. 12:03 PM - Re: Oregon Innovations WIg Wag vs Duckworks HID (Chuck Weyant) 12. 02:46 PM - Re: Wing cart pointer (Greg Young) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:20:40 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! Dear Listers, Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!! If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting it off for some reason, NOW is the time! I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want to be known as a person that supported the Lists! I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same. The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making your Contribution right now: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Thank you to all in advance! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:59 AM PST US From: "emrath" Subject: RV-List: Mystery Washer Folks, I'm in finally assembly of my RV-6A and have a couple AN970-516 washers (sort of a "fender" washer). Can any -6A builder's advise me where these are to be utilized? It seems to me the only -5 bolt is the one attaching the rear spar to the fuselage spar carry thru fork; my drawings show using AN960 washers in this application. Thanks for your assistance in advance. Marty in Brentwood TN ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:03 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Flop Tubes 4-Sale From: J Riffel I've got 2 new flop-tubes (fuel pickup aerobatic flight) that I bought from Vans, but didn't use on my RV7A. If anyone's interested, I'll sell them for $32ea ($60 for both) and I'll pay UPS shipping in conUS. Pics available on request. "Jerry" ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:01 AM PST US From: "David E. Nelson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Mystery Washer Hi Marty in Brentwood TN, On the -7A's, I think these washers are used on the front axle to provide for a slot of sorts for the nose gear fairing. Perhaps it's the same on -6A's. Regards, /\/elson ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring. ~~ On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, emrath wrote: > > Folks, > I'm in finally assembly of my RV-6A and have a couple AN970-516 washers > (sort of a "fender" washer). Can any -6A builder's advise me where these > are to be utilized? It seems to me the only -5 bolt is the one attaching > the rear spar to the fuselage spar carry thru fork; my drawings show using > AN960 washers in this application. Thanks for your assistance in advance. > Marty in Brentwood TN > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:40 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: RV lands on street in phx From: thomas sargent I saw a short story on the local TV station web page (www.kvoa.com) saying that an Van's RV-6 had an engine failure on approach to Deer Valley airport in phoenix at 9:20am Saturday. No injuries and, they say, no damage to plane. Any one know about this event? -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:02 AM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: Mystery Washer As there are only two they may be the ones used on the wing leading edge to fuselage attaching point. Mike Robertson Das Fed > Date: Mon=2C 30 Nov 2009 08:53:35 -0600 > From: david.nelson@pobox.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Mystery Washer > > > > Hi Marty in Brentwood TN=2C > > On the -7A's=2C I think these washers are used on the front axle to provi de for a > slot of sorts for the nose gear fairing. Perhaps it's the same on -6A's. > > Regards=2C > /\/elson > > ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring . ~~ > > On Mon=2C 30 Nov 2009=2C emrath wrote: > > > > > Folks=2C > > I'm in finally assembly of my RV-6A and have a couple AN970-516 washers > > (sort of a "fender" washer). Can any -6A builder's advise me where thes e > > are to be utilized? It seems to me the only -5 bolt is the one attachin g > > the rear spar to the fuselage spar carry thru fork=3B my drawings show using > > AN960 washers in this application. Thanks for your assistance in advanc e. > > Marty in Brentwood TN > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:40 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Mystery Washer Could they be for the wing leading edge/tank mount where the bolt is adjusted to slide out of the bracket in an accident that pushes the wing aft? > Folks, > I'm in finally assembly of my RV-6A and have a couple AN970-516 washers > (sort of a "fender" washer). Can any -6A builder's advise me where these > are to be utilized? It seems to me the only -5 bolt is the one attaching > the rear spar to the fuselage spar carry thru fork; my drawings show using > AN960 washers in this application. Thanks for your assistance in advance. > Marty in Brentwood TN ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:17:23 AM PST US From: Richard Wagoner Subject: RV-List: Wing cart pointer I'm looking for a pointer to a set of plans (or photos) for a "cart" that I can use to hold my wings. Nothing fancy, just a plywood and 2 x 4 cart with wheels is all I'm looking for. I find that my garage is increasingly harder to navigate with this growing pile of airplane parts! Many thanks! Rick (RV-6A - lots of metal still to bend) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:47:51 AM PST US From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/09 In a message dated 11/30/2009 12:12:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, rv-list@matronics.com writes: Subject: RV-List: Oregon Innovations WIg Wag vs Duckworks HID Hey everybody, late last century, I bought a wig wag unit from a company called Oregon Innovations. The phone number on the casing doesn't work but the Yeller Pages has 503-720-1132 for Bob Haan. That number does work but no answer today. I am wondering if this flasher unit will work with new HID's from Duckworks. Do many people have this flasher? Norman Hunger RV6A Delta BC Do not archive Nov 17--09 - 1 Nov 17--09 - 2 I know Bob Haan and he has been out of that business for a number of years and sadly, has had a serious illness for the same time period. I'm sure Duckworks can help you with it. Cheers, Jerry Cochran ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:52 AM PST US From: "David E. Nelson" Subject: Re: RV-List: Wing cart pointer Hi Richard, No plans, but a good idea of what I did: http://caura.dyndns.org/gallery/Right-Wing/afo I used a wing rib as a template for the cutouts. I notched the inboard ends to keep the main spar from vibrating/bouncing off while moving things around. I used the plywood from the "wing kit" and some 2x4's. There's a long 2x4 that joins the two ends. On each end, there is a 2x4 at a 45 deg angle that attaches to the side and the "long 2x4" (sorry, no pic - just some ascii art below). These provide support for the sides so they "flop over". |\ /| | \ / | | \ / | ----------------- Things I'd do again: - Find some old casters and install them. Makes moving _very_ easy. - Bottoms of the wings facing outward Things I'd change or do differently: - You'll notice that for each caster, I doubled up on the 2x4's. I should have sandwiched the vertical portions of the cradle w/ the 2x4's rather than stacked the 2x4's. Reason being, the plywood is not the sturdiest material and now there's a twisting moment on the plywood. So far, I've not had a problems but it definately doesn't give me any good feelings, neither. - I would not have made the outboard end of the cradle so deep; but rather about 4" below the main spar. Two reasons: 1) Makes taking the wing in and out a little easier since one doesn't have to lift it so high. 2) I riveted on my bottom skins with the wing in the cradle and I needed to be able to lift the skin out of the way. Things to look out for: - If you're installing the Duckworks leading edge landing lights, be sure that the overall length of the cradle won't position the cradle support where the light will be installed. Regards, /\/elson ~~ Lately my memory seems to be like a steel trap .... without any spring. ~~ On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Richard Wagoner wrote: > > I'm looking for a pointer to a set of plans (or photos) for a "cart" > that I can use to hold my wings. Nothing fancy, just a plywood > and 2 x 4 cart with wheels is all I'm looking for. > > I find that my garage is increasingly harder to navigate with > this growing pile of airplane parts! > > Many thanks! > > Rick (RV-6A - lots of metal still to bend) > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:53 AM PST US From: Jerry2DT@aol.com Subject: RV-List: Re: RV-List Digest: 5 Msgs - 11/29/09 In a message dated 11/30/2009 12:12:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, rv-list@matronics.com writes: Subject: RV-List: Oregon Innovations WIg Wag vs Duckworks HID Hey everybody, late last century, I bought a wig wag unit from a company called Oregon Innovations. The phone number on the casing doesn't work but the Yeller Pages has 503-720-1132 for Bob Haan. That number does work but no answer today. I am wondering if this flasher unit will work with new HID's from Duckworks. Do many people have this flasher? Norman Hunger RV6A Delta BC Do not archive Nov 17--09 - 1 Nov 17--09 - 2 I know Bob Haan and he has been out of that business for a number of years and sadly, has had a serious illness for the same time period. I'm sure Duckworks can help you with it. Cheers, Jerry Cochran ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:03 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: RE: RV-List: Oregon Innovations WIg Wag vs Duckworks HID Mine just stopped working. Tried in vain to contact the maker to no avail. Probably no longer in business. They're not repairable either. Instead contact http://www.maxpulsemaxdim.com/ and get something ten times smaller and with more features plus way easier installation for $200! I just installed it and did completely away with three light switches and some now extra wires. Way cool! Chuck Weyant RV9 and RV10 (both flying) http://www.maxpulsemaxdim.com/ _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Norman Hunger Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: RV-List: Oregon Innovations WIg Wag vs Duckworks HID Hey everybody, late last century, I bought a wig wag unit from a company called Oregon Innovations. The phone number on the casing doesn't work but the Yeller Pages has 503-720-1132 for Bob Haan. That number does work but no answer today. I am wondering if this flasher unit will work with new HID's from Duckworks. Do many people have this flasher? Norman Hunger RV6A Delta BC Do not archive Nov 17--09 - 1 Nov 17--09 - 2 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:46:26 PM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: Wing cart pointer If you're in a population center of more that a few thousand you'll probably find a hand-me-down cart available near by. Just ask. Regards, Greg Young _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Wagoner Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:05 PM Subject: RV-List: Wing cart pointer I'm looking for a pointer to a set of plans (or photos) for a "cart" that I can use to hold my wings. Nothing fancy, just a plywood and 2 x 4 cart with wheels is all I'm looking for. I find that my garage is increasingly harder to navigate with this growing pile of airplane parts! Many thanks! 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