RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 12/14/09


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 06:56 AM - Re: Sale Document (Garry)
     2. 07:35 AM - Re: Sale Document (Doug Weiler)
     3. 07:37 AM - Re: Sale Document (Valovich, Paul)
     4. 03:48 PM - Tire Pressure... (Matt Dralle)
     5. 04:11 PM - Re: Tire Pressure... (William Gill)
     6. 05:47 PM - Re: Tire Pressure... (Linn Walters)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:56:24 AM PST US
    From: "Garry" <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Sale Document
    Both EAA and AOPA have "forms" for sales agreements. I'd go with the EAA version. Garry Stout ----- Original Message ----- From: NEIL HENDERSON To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 1:26 AM Subject: RV-List: Sale Document Listers I'm in the process of selling my RV9A to make way for a RV7 which is almost ready for test flight. Would anyone have wording for a sale agreement that covers restricting ongoing liability. I know that in the final event it would be down to the legal system but least it sets the basis of understanding between the buyer/seller. Any help would be appreciated. Neil Henderson


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    Time: 07:35:07 AM PST US
    From: Doug Weiler <dcw@mnwing.org>
    Subject: Re: Sale Document
    I have used several forms for the sale of two of my RVs and it seems the EAA form is the most comprehensive. Doug Garry wrote: > Both EAA and AOPA have "forms" for sales agreements. I'd go with the > EAA version. > > Garry Stout > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* NEIL HENDERSON <mailto:neil459@btinternet.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2009 1:26 AM > *Subject:* RV-List: Sale Document > > Listers > > > > I'm in the process of selling my RV9A to make way for a RV7 which > is almost ready for test flight. Would anyone have wording for a > sale agreement that covers restricting ongoing liability. I know > that in the final event it would be down to the legal system but > least it sets the basis of understanding between the buyer/seller. > Any help would be appreciated. > > > > Neil Henderson > > > > * > > href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com > href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com > href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 07:37:53 AM PST US
    From: "Valovich, Paul" <pvalovich@dcscorp.com>
    Subject: Re: Sale Document
    This example was posted a few years ago: EXPERIMENTAL-AMATEUR BUILT AIRCRAFT SALES AGREEMENT THIS FORM SUPPLEMENTS, BUT DOES NOT REPLACE, FAA AC FORM 8050-2. THE FAA REGISTRATION-NUMBER OF THIS AIRCRAFT IS NXXXX. THIS AIRCRAFT WAS C ONSTRUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH PLANS SERIAL NUMBER XXXXX, AND IS A FACSIMIL E OF AN AIRCRAF KNOWN AS AN XX-XX. THE AIRCRAFT IS DESCRIBED IN GREATER DETAIL ON SHEET xx OF THIS AGREEMENT. The experimental-amateur built aircraft being sold is not designed and/or b uilt to meet any defined standards of airworthiness as are Standard Aircra ft. . This aircraft does not have an FAA Form 317 Statement of Conformity on file, as there are no FAA approved data with which to conform. In the cas e experimental-amateur built aircraft, the registered owner(s) is/are the e xperimenter(s). Most parts of this aircraft were not built in permanent ji gs and, as such, may not be directly interchangeable with like parts on ot her aircraft of the same facsimile. The original builder of this experime ntal aircraft may possess a repairmans certificate for purposes of maintai ning and performing condition inspections on this aircraft only, although he/she may not be a professional mechanic nor possess an FAA A&P license. FAA records list the registered owner(s) as the manufacturer of an experi mental-amateur built aircraft as the manufacturer and, as manufacturer, the registered owner(s)is/are free to make any modifications or changes to the design as they see fit, although notification of major alterations have an d must be made to the FAA. This aircraft is an example of the builder/owner creative ability and was built for their education and recreation. Upon sale, the newly registere d owner of this experimental-amateur built aircraft in fact will be consid ered its new manufacturer. As of the date of sale, the new owner becomes responsible for its aerodynamic and structural function and/or concept. T he new owner is responsible for the performance, fit and/or purpose of ever y part/piece on the aircraft. No warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, is made to the Purchaser or anyone else as to the merchantability or airworthiness of NXXXX. This experimental-amateur built aircraft is sold on an AS IS, WHERE-IS and WITH ALL FAULTS PRESENTLY INCORPORATED basis. Flying poses certain in herent risks that can result in serious injury or death. Any person who p ilots or acts as passenger in this experimental aircraft does so at his/her own risk. Because of the sale hereof and in receipt of other good and va luable consideration, the Purchaser/new Owner hereby Waive and Releases th e seller(s) from any and all Demands, Claims of every kind, including but not limited to, Liability, Breach of Warranty or Negligence, which the Pur chaser, owner , pilot, and/or passenger in this experimental aircraft may have. This Release and Waiver is binding on all Heirs, Personal Representa tives and Assigns of the Purchaser, Subsequent Owners, Pilots and Passenge rs. As Purchaser/new Owner, I accept the terms of this Sales Agreement for the experimental-amateur built aircraft identified above and agree to be boun d by the above stipulations. I agree that any subsequent sale of this airc raft will be made with the same disclosures, agreements and assurances lis ted above as a minimum. Name of Purchaser/new Owner: Name of Purchaser/new Co-Owner: Purchasers Address: Co-Owners Address: Signature of Purchaser: Signature of Co-Owner: As Seller(s), on this XXth day of Month, XXXX in the County of XXXX, State of XX, I/We do hereby sell, grant, transfer, release and deliver all righ ts, title, interest, possession and responsibility for/to such experimenta l aircraft to the above Purchaser and acknowledge the receipt of a Cashier s Check in the amount of $XXXX.00, payable to the Seller. No sales tax wa s collected pursuant to State Law and this becomes the responsibility of th e Purchaser. Total Hours Engine and Airframe at time of sale XXX.X Name of Seller/Owner: Name of Seller/Co-Owner: Seller/Owner's Address: Seller/Co-Owners Address: Signature of Seller/Owner: Signature of Co-Owner: Witness: Signature of Witness: This Bill of Sale is to be signed by all parties. The FAA dropped the requ irement for notarizing in 1972. Seller retains the original and a copy i s given to the Purchaser/new Owner. Seller sends a copy of the original d ocument to the FAA along with Cancellation of Registration FAA AC FORM 805 0-73.


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    Time: 03:48:34 PM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Tire Pressure...
    Dear Listers, What's the "recommended" tire pressure on the circa 2008 Aero Classic tire/tubes that Van's supplies? I don't see it embossed on the tire anywhere. Thanks, Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com Final Assembly


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    Time: 04:11:07 PM PST US
    From: "William Gill" <wgill10@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Tire Pressure...
    Matt, Most are using 40 to 42 psig for the mains... Bill RV-7 N151WP Lee's Summit, MO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:47 PM Subject: RV-List: Tire Pressure... > > > Dear Listers, > > What's the "recommended" tire pressure on the circa 2008 Aero Classic > tire/tubes that Van's supplies? I don't see it embossed on the tire > anywhere. > > Thanks, > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com > Final Assembly > > >


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    Time: 05:47:05 PM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Tire Pressure...
    When I was a baby pilot and airplane owner, I was told to inflate the tire until the outer rib started to lift off the ground .... no getting a tire gauge in there .... and it would be pretty close to 'right'. I always get good, even tread wear with this method ..... but I doubt if ANY specific tire pressure will get even tread wear on an RV. Linn William Gill wrote: > > Matt, > > Most are using 40 to 42 psig for the mains... > > Bill > RV-7 N151WP > Lee's Summit, MO > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com> > To: <rv-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:47 PM > Subject: RV-List: Tire Pressure... > > >> >> >> Dear Listers, >> >> What's the "recommended" tire pressure on the circa 2008 Aero Classic >> tire/tubes that Van's supplies? I don't see it embossed on the tire >> anywhere. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Matt Dralle >> RV-8 #82880 N998RV >> http://www.mattsrv8.com >> Final Assembly >> >> >> >> >> > >




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