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1. 09:06 AM - passenger stick (thomas sargent)
2. 09:06 AM - where to put fire extinguisher (thomas sargent)
3. 12:58 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Bill Boyd)
4. 01:22 PM - Re: passenger stick (Sam Buchanan)
5. 01:54 PM - Re: passenger stick (Bill Boyd)
6. 02:55 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (BOB L WATSON)
7. 03:51 PM - Re: passenger stick (Bret Smith)
8. 04:43 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Sam Buchanan)
9. 04:55 PM - Re: passenger stick (BOB L WATSON)
10. 05:27 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Linn Walters)
11. 05:42 PM - Re: passenger stick (Dale Ensing)
12. 05:48 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Dale Ensing)
13. 05:59 PM - Re: passenger stick (Dan Bergeron)
14. 06:04 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (RV6 Flyer)
15. 06:24 PM - Parts for sale (tomvelvick)
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I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the
thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly.
I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of
scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths
undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
Thanks
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Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly
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Subject: | where to put fire extinguisher |
I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a
"standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick)
installation idea.
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or maybe
not.
I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box, until
the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object (probably a CD
player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing noise and "smoke" in
flight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted to ground for a second. We
laughed later. A lot later.
Bill /Stormy / 6A
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a
> "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick)
> installation idea.
>
> Thanks,
>
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> Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: passenger stick |
On 12/19/2009 10:38 AM, thomas sargent wrote:
> I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
> clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the
> thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly.
> I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of
> scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths
> undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
> can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
> Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
>
> Thanks
Deform the end of the stick just enough to make it less "round". That
should make it a friction fit in the socket.
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: passenger stick |
Tom, I replaced the supplied steel tube with hardware store aluminum, for
weight savings and because the steel stick caused my panel mounted compass
to go nuts. A spiral wrap of black electrician's tape (not overlapping)
makes for a snug fit. I removed the stick-mounted pax PTT switch when I
made the change, and did not realize until a long time after, that with my
current intercom wiring and no passenger PTT switch, when I key the mic and
let the pax talk on the comm, all anyone hears is dead air. Drat! They
have to use my headset to talk to the other members of the flight, and
that's not going to happen! Project for a rainy day, I guess.
I did the spring clip/clevis pin thing at
first, too, but decided it was totally unnecessary. I leave the stick out
unless I intend to offer the pax some stick time. Makes ingress and egress
for beefier thighs much more comfortable and assures I have full aileron
deflection available.
Bill
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote:
> I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
> clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the
> thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly.
> I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of
> scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths
> undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
> can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
> Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly
>
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Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
I-- mounted mine-between seats that way piolot or passenger has acces
s to extinguisher=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: th
omas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>=0ASe
nt: Sat, December 19, 2009 8:40:16 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: where to put fire
extinguisher=0A=0AI just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher y
et. -Is there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? -Looking for an e
asy (=quick) installation idea. =0A=0AThanks,=0A=0A-- =0ATom Sargent=0A
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Why not tape off the stick above the joint and hit the area that slides in the
joint with a light coat of your favorite spray paint. If it is still not snug
enough, hit it with another coat.
Bret Smith
RV-9A N16BL
Blue Ridge, GA
www.FlightInnovations.com
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Buchanan
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick
On 12/19/2009 10:38 AM, thomas sargent wrote:
> I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
> clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the
> thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly.
> I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of
> scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths
> undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
> can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
> Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
>
> Thanks
Deform the end of the stick just enough to make it less "round". That
should make it a friction fit in the socket.
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
On 12/19/2009 10:40 AM, thomas sargent wrote:
> I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a
> "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick)
> installation idea.
>
> Thanks,
>
In my RV-6, the extinguisher is mounted on the floor just in front of
the fuel valve.
Sam Buchanan
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Subject: | Re: passenger stick |
Tom when i-built my 9-a painted stick and sanded down to friction fit in
scoket-very- tight, but can be removed in flight and replaced in flight
no pins needed.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: thomas
sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>=0ASent:
Sat, December 19, 2009 8:38:11 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: passenger stick=0A=0A
I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
clip. -There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so th
e thing is pretty easily removable. -My problem is that it wobbles slight
ly. -I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 la
yer of scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousa
ndths undersize. Still it's easy to feel. -Even when the pilot stick is m
oved I can feel the passenger stick rattling around. - =0ADoes any one ha
ve any suggestions for securing this?=0A=0AThanks=0A-- =0ATom Sargent, RV-6
=========================0A
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Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
How about on the spar cover where it's just behind your legs and handy
..... under the cowl won't help with a brake fire.
Linn
Bill Boyd wrote:
> How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or
> maybe not.
>
> I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box,
> until the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object
> (probably a CD player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing
> noise and "smoke" in flight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted
> to ground for a second. We laughed later. A lot later.
>
> Bill /Stormy / 6A
>
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com
> <mailto:sarg314@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is
> there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy
> (=quick) installation idea.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: passenger stick |
One or two more coats of paint on the stick..maybe?
Dale Ensing
----- Original Message -----
From: thomas sargent
To: rv-list
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:38 AM
Subject: RV-List: passenger stick
I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spri
ng clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so th
e thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly
I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer
of scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandth
s undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
Thanks
--
Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly
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Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
Tom
I have mine between the seat bottom cushions. It's a little too long to lay
flat on the floor between the flap drive enclosure and the tapered portion
of the seat bottom. But, a little sheet aluminum fabrication made a bracke
t to fit.
Dale Ensing
RV-6A
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Boyd
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher
How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or maybe
not.
I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box, unti
l the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object (probably a CD
player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing noise and "smoke" in fl
ight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted to ground for a second. We
laughed later. A lot later.
Bill /Stormy / 6A
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrot
e:
I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a
"standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) inst
allation idea.
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: passenger stick |
Tom:
My pax side stick fits tightly and requires considerable effort to remove.
That notwithstanding, I secured it with an AN3 bolt & nyloc nut - but of
course it's not conveniently removed - takes about 10 minutes and can only
be done on the ground. Some builders use a pin with a ring on one end and
a spring clip on the other. Others simply set it in place (friction fit)
and hope it doesn't come out at some inopportune moment; it has happend.
I'd say, better safe now than sorry later. Secure it - with a pin or bolt -
doesn't cost much and only takes a few minutes. I've been giving my wife
lessons and if there is any way for that stick to come out accidentally -
she'd find it.
Dan Bergeron
RV-7A, N307TB
Nearly 70 hours flight time since
first flight on 08/04/09 at 7B2 (Northampton, MA)
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, BOB L WATSON <bob194bn@verizon.net> wrote:
> Tom when i built my 9-a painted stick and sanded down to friction fit in
> scoket very tight, but can be removed in flight and replaced in flight no
> pins needed.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Sat, December 19, 2009 8:38:11 AM
> *Subject:* RV-List: passenger stick
>
> I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring
> clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the
> thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly.
> I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of
> scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths
> undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I
> can feel the passenger stick rattling around.
> Does any one have any suggestions for securing this?
>
> Thanks
> --
> Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly
>
> *www.aeroelectric.com
> omebuiltHELP <http://www.homebuilthelp.com/>*
>
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>
>
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Subject: | where to put fire extinguisher |
In my RV-6=2C I mounted mine on the F-638 Seat Back Brace of the Passenger
Seat. I used the bracket that it came with and made some Velcro straps to h
elp hold it in plus make it easy to remove. While in flight=2C I can reach
over and pull it off. No bending or twisting.
I copied this idea off of Bill Flahrty RV-6 when I saw it in July 1998 at 2
G3 (now KVVS). It has held up well for almost 12-years and over 2=2C000 ho
urs of flying.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C338+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
Subject: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher
From: sarg314@gmail.com
I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a "st
andard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) installa
tion idea.
Thanks=2C
--
Tom Sargent
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