---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/19/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:06 AM - passenger stick (thomas sargent) 2. 09:06 AM - where to put fire extinguisher (thomas sargent) 3. 12:58 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Bill Boyd) 4. 01:22 PM - Re: passenger stick (Sam Buchanan) 5. 01:54 PM - Re: passenger stick (Bill Boyd) 6. 02:55 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (BOB L WATSON) 7. 03:51 PM - Re: passenger stick (Bret Smith) 8. 04:43 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Sam Buchanan) 9. 04:55 PM - Re: passenger stick (BOB L WATSON) 10. 05:27 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Linn Walters) 11. 05:42 PM - Re: passenger stick (Dale Ensing) 12. 05:48 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (Dale Ensing) 13. 05:59 PM - Re: passenger stick (Dan Bergeron) 14. 06:04 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (RV6 Flyer) 15. 06:24 PM - Parts for sale (tomvelvick) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:02 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: passenger stick From: thomas sargent I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly. I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I can feel the passenger stick rattling around. Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? Thanks -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:07 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher From: thomas sargent I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) installation idea. Thanks, -- Tom Sargent ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:10 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher From: Bill Boyd How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or maybe not. I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box, until the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object (probably a CD player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing noise and "smoke" in flight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted to ground for a second. We laughed later. A lot later. Bill /Stormy / 6A On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent wrote: > I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a > "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) > installation idea. > > Thanks, > > -- > Tom Sargent > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:22:59 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick On 12/19/2009 10:38 AM, thomas sargent wrote: > I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring > clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the > thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly. > I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of > scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths > undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I > can feel the passenger stick rattling around. > Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? > > Thanks Deform the end of the stick just enough to make it less "round". That should make it a friction fit in the socket. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:54:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick From: Bill Boyd Tom, I replaced the supplied steel tube with hardware store aluminum, for weight savings and because the steel stick caused my panel mounted compass to go nuts. A spiral wrap of black electrician's tape (not overlapping) makes for a snug fit. I removed the stick-mounted pax PTT switch when I made the change, and did not realize until a long time after, that with my current intercom wiring and no passenger PTT switch, when I key the mic and let the pax talk on the comm, all anyone hears is dead air. Drat! They have to use my headset to talk to the other members of the flight, and that's not going to happen! Project for a rainy day, I guess. I did the spring clip/clevis pin thing at first, too, but decided it was totally unnecessary. I leave the stick out unless I intend to offer the pax some stick time. Makes ingress and egress for beefier thighs much more comfortable and assures I have full aileron deflection available. Bill On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM, thomas sargent wrote: > I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring > clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the > thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly. > I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of > scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths > undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I > can feel the passenger stick rattling around. > Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? > > Thanks > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:28 PM PST US From: BOB L WATSON Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher I-- mounted mine-between seats that way piolot or passenger has acces s to extinguisher=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: th omas sargent =0ATo: rv-list =0ASe nt: Sat, December 19, 2009 8:40:16 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher=0A=0AI just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher y et. -Is there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? -Looking for an e asy (=quick) installation idea. =0A=0AThanks,=0A=0A-- =0ATom Sargent=0A -======================== ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:35 PM PST US From: "Bret Smith" Subject: RE: RV-List: passenger stick Why not tape off the stick above the joint and hit the area that slides in the joint with a light coat of your favorite spray paint. If it is still not snug enough, hit it with another coat. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Buchanan Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 3:17 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick On 12/19/2009 10:38 AM, thomas sargent wrote: > I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring > clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the > thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly. > I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of > scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths > undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I > can feel the passenger stick rattling around. > Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? > > Thanks Deform the end of the stick just enough to make it less "round". That should make it a friction fit in the socket. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:27 PM PST US From: Sam Buchanan Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher On 12/19/2009 10:40 AM, thomas sargent wrote: > I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a > "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) > installation idea. > > Thanks, > In my RV-6, the extinguisher is mounted on the floor just in front of the fuel valve. Sam Buchanan ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:55:23 PM PST US From: BOB L WATSON Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick Tom when i-built my 9-a painted stick and sanded down to friction fit in scoket-very- tight, but can be removed in flight and replaced in flight no pins needed.=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: thomas sargent =0ATo: rv-list =0ASent: Sat, December 19, 2009 8:38:11 AM=0ASubject: RV-List: passenger stick=0A=0A I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring clip. -There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so th e thing is pretty easily removable. -My problem is that it wobbles slight ly. -I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 la yer of scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousa ndths undersize. Still it's easy to feel. -Even when the pilot stick is m oved I can feel the passenger stick rattling around. - =0ADoes any one ha ve any suggestions for securing this?=0A=0AThanks=0A-- =0ATom Sargent, RV-6 =========================0A ================= ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:07 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher How about on the spar cover where it's just behind your legs and handy ..... under the cowl won't help with a brake fire. Linn Bill Boyd wrote: > How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or > maybe not. > > I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box, > until the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object > (probably a CD player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing > noise and "smoke" in flight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted > to ground for a second. We laughed later. A lot later. > > Bill /Stormy / 6A > > On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent > wrote: > > I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is > there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy > (=quick) installation idea. > > Thanks, > > -- > Tom Sargent > > * > > _blank">www.aeroelectric.com > .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > > * > > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:42:52 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick One or two more coats of paint on the stick..maybe? Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: thomas sargent To: rv-list Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 11:38 AM Subject: RV-List: passenger stick I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spri ng clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so th e thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandth s undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I can feel the passenger stick rattling around. Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? Thanks -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:48:35 PM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher Tom I have mine between the seat bottom cushions. It's a little too long to lay flat on the floor between the flap drive enclosure and the tapered portion of the seat bottom. But, a little sheet aluminum fabrication made a bracke t to fit. Dale Ensing RV-6A ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Boyd To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher How about under the cowl with a remote pull pin? Just kidding. Or maybe not. I had a small Halon bottle lying loose in my custom panel glove box, unti l the day my wife shut the door on it with some loose object (probably a CD player) in front of the discharge button. Hissing noise and "smoke" in fl ight made me think a 2 gauge cable had shorted to ground for a second. We laughed later. A lot later. Bill /Stormy / 6A On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 11:40 AM, thomas sargent wrot e: I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a "standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) inst allation idea. Thanks, -- Tom Sargent _blank">www.aeroelectric.com .com" target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com ="_blank">www.homebuilthelp.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List tp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: passenger stick From: Dan Bergeron Tom: My pax side stick fits tightly and requires considerable effort to remove. That notwithstanding, I secured it with an AN3 bolt & nyloc nut - but of course it's not conveniently removed - takes about 10 minutes and can only be done on the ground. Some builders use a pin with a ring on one end and a spring clip on the other. Others simply set it in place (friction fit) and hope it doesn't come out at some inopportune moment; it has happend. I'd say, better safe now than sorry later. Secure it - with a pin or bolt - doesn't cost much and only takes a few minutes. I've been giving my wife lessons and if there is any way for that stick to come out accidentally - she'd find it. Dan Bergeron RV-7A, N307TB Nearly 70 hours flight time since first flight on 08/04/09 at 7B2 (Northampton, MA) On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM, BOB L WATSON wrote: > Tom when i built my 9-a painted stick and sanded down to friction fit in > scoket very tight, but can be removed in flight and replaced in flight no > pins needed. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* thomas sargent > *To:* rv-list > *Sent:* Sat, December 19, 2009 8:38:11 AM > *Subject:* RV-List: passenger stick > > I put a 1/4" pin thru my passenger side stick (RV-6A) secured with a spring > clip. There's a small connector on the cable from the stick grip, so the > thing is pretty easily removable. My problem is that it wobbles slightly. > I tried putting a little scotch tape on it to fill the gap, but 1 layer of > scotch tape on the tube is too much. So it must be just a few thousandths > undersize. Still it's easy to feel. Even when the pilot stick is moved I > can feel the passenger stick rattling around. > Does any one have any suggestions for securing this? > > Thanks > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A, final assembly > > *www.aeroelectric.com > omebuiltHELP * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:04:09 PM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher In my RV-6=2C I mounted mine on the F-638 Seat Back Brace of the Passenger Seat. I used the bracket that it came with and made some Velcro straps to h elp hold it in plus make it easy to remove. While in flight=2C I can reach over and pull it off. No bending or twisting. I copied this idea off of Bill Flahrty RV-6 when I saw it in July 1998 at 2 G3 (now KVVS). It has held up well for almost 12-years and over 2=2C000 ho urs of flying. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C338+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA Subject: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher From: sarg314@gmail.com I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a "st andard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick) installa tion idea. Thanks=2C -- Tom Sargent _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:27 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Parts for sale From: "tomvelvick" i put some parts for sale on my blog. 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