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1. 06:44 AM - Stick fit and Extinguisher Location (Ian)
2. 06:45 AM - Re:rv-list: where to put fire extinguisher (emrath)
3. 08:57 AM - Re: Stick fit and Extinguisher Location (Bill Boyd)
4. 08:58 AM - Re: Stick fit and Extinguisher Location (Bill Boyd)
5. 10:05 AM - Gretz GA-1000 heated pitot for sale (Carl Froehlich)
6. 12:04 PM - GRT MFD For Sale (Scott)
7. 12:58 PM - Re: where to put fire extinguisher (peterhunt1@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Stick fit and Extinguisher Location |
Wasn't there an accident with a friction fit stick? I think Van's
recommends a bolt and nut through the passenger stick, just in case a
right seat pilot tries to take over during a hard landing and the bounce
causes the stick to come away in his/her hand.
My vote for the best location for the extinguisher is just forward of
the fuel valve, on the tunnel cover. To me, the best location is
wherever you find it most reachable, especially at the moment you're
most likely to need it. I figured it was much more important to be able
to get to it in flight, so behind either of the seats was a no-no if I'm
also trying to control the aircraft. It also depends on the size!
Mine's one of those small halon jobbies! Regulations here in Canada
stipulate a metal bracket rather than plastic.
Ian Brown, RV-9A, C-GOHM
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| Subject: | Re:rv-list: where to put fire extinguisher |
How about on the side wall next to the seat cushion. Of course the pax
would not be able to reach it if needed. Also, what type of extingisher is
best, the Halon models or a std A,B,C type model?
Marty Emrath
RV-6A finishing
Time: 09:06:07 AM PST US
Subject: RV-List: where to put fire extinguisher
From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
I just realized I haven't mounted my fire extinguisher yet. Is there a
"standard" spot for this in an RV-6A? Looking for an easy (=quick)
installation idea.
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
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| Subject: | Re: Stick fit and Extinguisher Location |
Oh, and never make the pilot's stick friction-fit :-)
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Bill Boyd <sportav8r@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds like a built-in safety feature to me: if a passenger ever tried to
> wrestle me for control of the plane during landing, I'd _want_ their stick
> to pop out in their hand - just before I pulled his ejection handle.
>
> Seriously, there is a failure mode here that I had not considered: stick
> pops up and out of socket for some very strange reason, remains captive by
> the stick boot, end falls down into the stick cut-out in the seat pan,
> restricting movement of the push tubes, pilot holds pressure in a panic
> preventing the pinched passenger stick from being extricated. Lots of
> things have to go wrong here to make this happen. But I have always been
> paranoid about small objects like cameras or water bottles being dropped
> into the control stick cut-out. Even with the boot and the stick in place,
> it's a potential control blockage/jam. Be very careful how you and your
> passenger handle loose objects in your laps in flight.
>
> Stormy
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Ian <ixb@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>> Wasn't there an accident with a friction fit stick? I think Van's
>> recommends a bolt and nut through the passenger stick, just in case a right
>> seat pilot tries to take over during a hard landing and the bounce causes
>> the stick to come away in his/her hand.
>>
>> My vote for the best location for the extinguisher is just forward of the
>> fuel valve, on the tunnel cover. To me, the best location is wherever you
>> find it most reachable, especially at the moment you're most likely to need
>> it. I figured it was much more important to be able to get to it in flight,
>> so behind either of the seats was a no-no if I'm also trying to control the
>> aircraft. It also depends on the size! Mine's one of those small halon
>> jobbies! Regulations here in Canada stipulate a metal bracket rather than
>> plastic.
>>
>> Ian Brown, RV-9A, C-GOHM
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Stick fit and Extinguisher Location |
Sounds like a built-in safety feature to me: if a passenger ever tried to
wrestle me for control of the plane during landing, I'd _want_ their stick
to pop out in their hand - just before I pulled his ejection handle.
Seriously, there is a failure mode here that I had not considered: stick
pops up and out of socket for some very strange reason, remains captive by
the stick boot, end falls down into the stick cut-out in the seat pan,
restricting movement of the push tubes, pilot holds pressure in a panic
preventing the pinched passenger stick from being extricated. Lots of
things have to go wrong here to make this happen. But I have always been
paranoid about small objects like cameras or water bottles being dropped
into the control stick cut-out. Even with the boot and the stick in place,
it's a potential control blockage/jam. Be very careful how you and your
passenger handle loose objects in your laps in flight.
Stormy
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Ian <ixb@videotron.ca> wrote:
> Wasn't there an accident with a friction fit stick? I think Van's
> recommends a bolt and nut through the passenger stick, just in case a right
> seat pilot tries to take over during a hard landing and the bounce causes
> the stick to come away in his/her hand.
>
> My vote for the best location for the extinguisher is just forward of the
> fuel valve, on the tunnel cover. To me, the best location is wherever you
> find it most reachable, especially at the moment you're most likely to need
> it. I figured it was much more important to be able to get to it in flight,
> so behind either of the seats was a no-no if I'm also trying to control the
> aircraft. It also depends on the size! Mine's one of those small halon
> jobbies! Regulations here in Canada stipulate a metal bracket rather than
> plastic.
>
> Ian Brown, RV-9A, C-GOHM
>
>
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| Subject: | Gretz GA-1000 heated pitot for sale |
New in the box. $325 ($100 below list). I decided to go with a different
pitot install.
Carl Froehlich
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| Subject: | GRT MFD For Sale |
For Sale: Display only, Like New, Grand Rapids Technologies, Standard
Resolution, Horizon Series One.
Display has less than one hour of operation and is in excellent
condition.
A new display from GRT is $2,000 -- will let mine go for $1,250.
See http://www.grtavionics.com/product.aspx?productno=1&featureno=4
for information and screen shots.
Contact: Scott Fifield
927 Shoshone Street
Strasburg, CO 80136
scott428@tds.net
(303) 622-6868 Home
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| Subject: | Re: where to put fire extinguisher |
I put mine under my knees mounted horizontally on the forward side of the
main spar. It is easy to reach between my knees, very secure in its holder,
yet out of the way.
Pete in Clearwater
RV-6, Reserve Grand champion and more
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