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4. 08:56 AM - Re: Van's oil cooler shutter (Carl Froehlich)
5. 09:32 AM - Re: Van's oil cooler shutter (Glenn Bell)
6. 10:48 AM - Re: Van's oil cooler shutter ()
7. 07:49 PM - Pima Air Museum (Tom Gummo)
8. 08:25 PM - Re: Pima Air Museum (RICHARD MILLER)
9. 09:01 PM - Re: Pima Air Museum (Kelly McMullen)
10. 09:33 PM - Re: Pima Air Museum (Henry)
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| Subject: | Re: Van's oil cooler shutter |
Hi Ralph,=0A=0AFinally some pix.- Let me know if they don't come through.
- I'll move it away from Yahoo.- Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of t
he shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width
and length as the cooler.- You mate it up to the cooler then, using the
cooler as a drill guide,-drill through the shutter for the mounting holes
.- Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that
assy to the baffle.- The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (airc
raft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening.- It mounts to this
arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up.- Be cert
ain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly.- As you can see
from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of t
he air into the cooler.- I have NOT determined if or how much effect this
will have on summer activities.- I suspect it will have some effect.-
If that is the case,
removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts.
- Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. -The hard part is messin
g with the cowl.- I guess, just do it at oil change.- The acuator cable
is also from Vans.- It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and c
abin heat.- I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm r
est - ala Dan Checkoway.- The push pull knob is then attached to the smal
l bracket that secures the engine control-cables prior to entering the qu
adrant --just below the left airvent eyeball.- Winter time flying works
great.- Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.- =0ACongrats on
Patience (love the name).- Fly safe.=0A=0ASteve Stucky=0AVariEze 282S=0AR
V-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0AFrom: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>=0ATo: rv-list <rv-list@mat
ronics.com>; lycoming engine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>=0ASe
nt: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM=0ASubject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler sh
nk.net>=0A=0AAnyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinde
r?=0A=0AWould like to see pictures - hear your story.=0A=0AMy Vernatherm an
d oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.
=0A=0AMy IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degre
e oil temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower
OAT ranges.=0A=0AWe get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa
peninsula so a fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense -
like this cockpit controllable unit.=0A=0AThanks in advance!=0ARalph Capen
=0AN822AR (Patience) @ N06 47hrs - almost done with the first annual.=0A=0A
==============0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Van's oil cooler shutter |
Hi Bruce,=0A=0AFinally some pix.- Let me know if they don't come through.
- I'll move it away from Yahoo.- Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of t
he shutter before installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width
and length as the cooler.- You mate it up to the cooler then, using the
cooler as a drill guide,-drill through the shutter for the mounting holes
.- Stick the bolts through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that
assy to the baffle.- The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (airc
raft) left and right to vary the shutter air opening.- It mounts to this
arm via a collar and set screw the same as the carb heat set up.- Be cert
ain you have upper cowl clearance before final assembly.- As you can see
from the photos, the shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of t
he air into the cooler.- I have NOT determined if or how much effect this
will have on summer activities.- I suspect it will have some effect.-
If that is the case,
removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four bolts.
- Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. -The hard part is messin
g with the cowl.- I guess, just do it at oil change.- The acuator cable
is also from Vans.- It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and c
abin heat.- I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm r
est - ala Dan Checkoway.- The push pull knob is then attached to the smal
l bracket that secures the engine control-cables prior to entering the qu
adrant --just below the left airvent eyeball.- Winter time flying works
great.- Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.- On the 7, the o
il cooler mounts on the baffle behind cyl #7.- Not sure of your cooler se
tup on the 8. My friends 8 is mounted on the lower left air entrance.- I
guess it's just a matter of routing the control cable differantly.- Email
me if you have questions.=0A=0A=0Aps--I tried to get this to the list
but I doubt it made it, so sending it to you and a couple others.=0A=0AStev
e Stucky=0AVariEze 282S=0ARV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: BRUCE GRAY <brucerv84us@hotmail.com>
=0ATo: Matronics <rv-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tue, January 5, 2010 6:21:
44 PM=0ASubject: RE: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter=0A=0ASteve, I take i
t your not using the shutter style oil cooler set-up. If possible when the
photo's are available try to host them and post a link for us to learn from
. TIA, Bruce=0ARV-8=0A-=0A________________________________=0ADate: Mon, 4
Jan 2010 17:13:35 -0800=0AFrom: steve282s@yahoo.com=0ASubject: Re: RV-List
: Van's oil cooler shutter=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com; lycomingengines-lis
t@matronics.com=0A=0A=0AJust flew back from California to Topeka, Ks.- Ou
tside departure temp was 19 when I left Topeka and arrival temp was 12.-
I flew at 10,500 and 9,500 over the rockies.- My oat temp was never above
28 F however the sensor is in the cabin air inlet area and I'm told it rea
ds high due to the engine heat.- But, I was able to very the oil temp bet
ween 160 and 180 the entire way.- It works!- If you want some pix I'll
send them (they're still in the camera).- Installation was easy as was th
e cable routing.- I would do it again in a heart beat.- And, no. I'm no
t going to mention the temperature in Southern California!!!=0A=0ASteve Stu
cky=0ARV-7=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ralph E. Capen
<recapen@earthlink.net>=0ATo: rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>; lycoming eng
ine list <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Mon, January 4, 2010
4:03:14 PM=0ASubject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter=0A=0A--> RV-List me
ssage posted by: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>=0A=0AAnyone have
one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?=0A=0AWould like to see
pictures - hear your story.=0A=0AMy Vernatherm and oil temp sender are bot
h good - my oil temp runs too cold in the winter.=0A=0AMy IO360B1F6 with SW
8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil temp in the summer (
OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT ranges.=0A=0AWe get so
me weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a fixed block
-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this cockpit controll
able unit.=0A=0AThanks in advance!=0ARalph Capen=0AN822AR (Patience) @ N06
47hrs - almost done withntent also available via the - - - - -
- - - - -Matt Drall=============0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AHotmail: Powerful Free em
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| Subject: | Van's oil cooler shutter |
Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend
and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i
have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve.two
questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have
seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for
these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic.we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may
need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat
less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it
away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before
installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the
cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill
guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts
through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle.
The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to
vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set
screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl
clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the
shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the
cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on
summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the
case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four
bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is
messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator
cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and
cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm
rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small
bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the
quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works
great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
_____
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
<lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold
in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil
temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT
ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a
fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this
cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) @ N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web
bsp; -Matt Dralle, ==========
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| Subject: | Van's oil cooler shutter |
This looks like a nice way to control oil cooler air flow for those mounting
coolers someplace other than the rear baffle:
4" version
http://www.nonstopaviation.com/rv10-controller-cooler-p-14566.html?osCsid=bc
77b7d1ef861c7cd83d92c5a28010dc
3" version http://www.nonstopaviation.com/controller-cooler-p-14592.html
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (525 hrs)
RV-10 (systems install)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Bell
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend
and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i
have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve.two
questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have
seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for
these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic.we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may
need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat
less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it
away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before
installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the
cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill
guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts
through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle.
The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to
vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set
screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl
clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the
shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the
cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on
summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the
case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four
bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is
messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator
cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and
cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm
rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small
bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the
quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works
great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
_____
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
<lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold
in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil
temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT
ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a
fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this
cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) @ N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web
bsp; -Matt Dralle, ==========
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| Subject: | Van's oil cooler shutter |
Sorry.cooler..not filter..
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Glenn Bell
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend
and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i
have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve.two
questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have
seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for
these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
Back on topic.we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may
need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat
less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
Thanks
8A
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Hi Ralph,
Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it
away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before
installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the
cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill
guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts
through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle.
The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to
vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set
screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl
clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the
shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the
cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on
summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the
case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four
bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is
messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator
cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and
cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm
rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small
bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the
quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works
great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
Steve Stucky
VariEze 282S
RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
_____
From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
<lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
Subject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold
in the winter.
My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil
temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT
ranges.
We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a
fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this
cockpit controllable unit.
Thanks in advance!
Ralph Capen
N822AR (Patience) @ N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web
bsp; -Matt Dralle, ==========
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| Subject: | Van's oil cooler shutter |
You can get the hoses with integrated fire sleeve in brown or blue from Heber Aircraft in Torrance CA http://www.herberaircraft.com. They treat every order as an AOG so you will get very fast service. I used them for all my oil and fuel lines.
Don VS
RV7 flying
---- Glenn Bell <glennbell@cablelynx.com> wrote:
> Just a little off topic. I will be ready to measure for hoses this weekend
> and intend to use the aeroquip 666 teflon hoses for both fuel and oil..i
> have planned to uses hoses with the integrated firesleeve.two
> questions..first, is the firesleeve absolutely the right thing to do. I have
> seen a lot of installations without it..Second, is there another source for
> these hoses besides spruce ie cheaper..
>
> Back on topic.we installed the sw double pass filter and are thinking we may
> need to restrict airflow in the winter too..we were considering the somewhat
> less sophisticated duct tape alternative..
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> 8A
>
>
>
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 9:02 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
>
>
>
> Hi Ralph,
>
>
>
> Finally some pix. Let me know if they don't come through. I'll move it
> away from Yahoo. Unfortunately I didn't take a pic of the shutter before
> installation, but it is about 3/8 in thick and same width and length as the
> cooler. You mate it up to the cooler then, using the cooler as a drill
> guide, drill through the shutter for the mounting holes. Stick the bolts
> through the cooler and the shutter and then bolt that assy to the baffle.
> The control cable mounts to an arm that swings (aircraft) left and right to
> vary the shutter air opening. It mounts to this arm via a collar and set
> screw the same as the carb heat set up. Be certain you have upper cowl
> clearance before final assembly. As you can see from the photos, the
> shutter, when fully opened still blocks a portion of the air into the
> cooler. I have NOT determined if or how much effect this will have on
> summer activities. I suspect it will have some effect. If that is the
> case, removing the shutter is as simple as removing and reinstalling four
> bolts. Shouldn't even have to remove the oil lines. The hard part is
> messing with the cowl. I guess, just do it at oil change. The acuator
> cable is also from Vans. It's the standard cable they use for carb heat and
> cabin heat. I side mounted my throttle quadrant forward of the left arm
> rest - ala Dan Checkoway. The push pull knob is then attached to the small
> bracket that secures the engine control cables prior to entering the
> quadrant - just below the left airvent eyeball. Winter time flying works
> great. Jury still out on the hot summer Kansas days.
>
> Congrats on Patience (love the name). Fly safe.
>
>
>
> Steve Stucky
>
> VariEze 282S
>
> RV-7 283S (Wake Turbulence)
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: Ralph E. Capen <recapen@earthlink.net>
> To: rv-list <rv-list@matronics.com>; lycoming engine list
> <lycomingengines-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Mon, January 4, 2010 3:07:49 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Van's oil cooler shutter
>
>
> Anyone have one of these on their baffle behind the #4 cylinder?
>
> Would like to see pictures - hear your story.
>
> My Vernatherm and oil temp sender are both good - my oil temp runs too cold
> in the winter.
>
> My IO360B1F6 with SW 8406R cooler gives me a straight-line 185F degree oil
> temp in the summer (OAT over 65F) - but won't make 150F in the lower OAT
> ranges.
>
> We get some weird temperature ranges here on the DelMarVa peninsula so a
> fixed block-off plate inside my plenum doesn't make sense - like this
> cockpit controllable unit.
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Ralph Capen
> N822AR (Patience) @ N06 47hrs - almost done withalso available via the Web
> bsp; -Matt Dralle, ==========
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Arizona and Tucson RVers or Rocketeers,
In the last week of January or first two weeks of February, I am
planning a trip from Apple Valley, CA to the Pima Air and Space Museum
and the DM Bone Yard. It looks like a three day event. First morning fly
the Rocket to a nearby airport, rent a car, get a cheap but nice motel
room, and maybe spend the afternoon at the museum. Second day, take a
tour of the Bone Yard and finish up at the museum. Third day, fly home.
What small airport nearby best fits my needs? Don't want to go to any
place where a RAMP check may occur. KRYN, Ryan Field Airport, looks like
the closest.
What ideas do you guys/gals have for this type of trip?
Do not archive.
Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
Harmon Rocket II N-561FS
370 hours and a big smile
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| Subject: | Re: Pima Air Museum |
tom
go get your medical or fly lsa.
rick
--- On Thu, 1/7/10, Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net> wrote:
> From: Tom Gummo <t.gummo@verizon.net>
> Subject: RV-List: Pima Air Museum
> To: "RV List" <rv-list@matronics.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 7, 2010, 3:30 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Arizona and
> Tucson RVers or Rocketeers,
>
> In the last week of January or first two
> weeks of February, I am planning a trip from Apple Valley,
> CA to the Pima Air
> and Space Museum and the DM Bone Yard. It looks like a
> three day event. First
> morning fly the Rocket to a nearby airport, rent a car, get
> a cheap but nice
> motel room, and maybe spend the afternoon at the museum.
> Second day, take a tour
> of the Bone Yard and finish up at the museum. Third day,
> fly home.
>
> What
> small airport nearby best fits my needs? Don't want to
> go to any place where a
> RAMP check may occur. KRYN, Ryan Field Airport, looks like
> the
> closest.
>
> What ideas do you guys/gals have for this type of
> trip?
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
> Harmon Rocket II
> N-561FS
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| Subject: | Re: Pima Air Museum |
TUS is a lot closer. Ryan is almost 10 miles out of town.
AZ is not CA. Have flown in AZ for 17 years and have yet to see a ramp
check. Preceded by 19 years of flying in AK with no ramp checks. Can't
say one couldn't happen, just haven't even heard of somebody getting
one. SDL FSDO mostly has hands full with air carrier and air freight and
other commercial ops, so I don't think they get to spend much time on GA.
Tom Gummo wrote:
> Arizona and Tucson RVers or Rocketeers,
>
> In the last week of January or first two weeks of February, I am
> planning a trip from Apple Valley, CA to the Pima Air and Space Museum
> and the DM Bone Yard. It looks like a three day event. First morning fly
> the Rocket to a nearby airport, rent a car, get a cheap but nice motel
> room, and maybe spend the afternoon at the museum. Second day, take a
> tour of the Bone Yard and finish up at the museum. Third day, fly home.
>
> What small airport nearby best fits my needs? Don't want to go to any
> place where a RAMP check may occur. KRYN, Ryan Field Airport, looks like
> the closest.
>
> What ideas do you guys/gals have for this type of trip?
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
> Harmon Rocket II N-561FS
> 370 hours and a big smile
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Pima Air Museum |
If you fly into TUS use the Millionaire FBO. Outstanding facility and
they treat every plane from Jet to Rocket like a Millionaire!
Henry H
Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> TUS is a lot closer. Ryan is almost 10 miles out of town.
> AZ is not CA. Have flown in AZ for 17 years and have yet to see a ramp
> check. Preceded by 19 years of flying in AK with no ramp checks. Can't
> say one couldn't happen, just haven't even heard of somebody getting
> one. SDL FSDO mostly has hands full with air carrier and air freight
> and other commercial ops, so I don't think they get to spend much time
> on GA.
>
> Tom Gummo wrote:
>> Arizona and Tucson RVers or Rocketeers,
>>
>> In the last week of January or first two weeks of February, I am
>> planning a trip from Apple Valley, CA to the Pima Air and Space
>> Museum and the DM Bone Yard. It looks like a three day event. First
>> morning fly the Rocket to a nearby airport, rent a car, get a cheap
>> but nice motel room, and maybe spend the afternoon at the museum.
>> Second day, take a tour of the Bone Yard and finish up at the museum.
>> Third day, fly home.
>>
>> What small airport nearby best fits my needs? Don't want to go to any
>> place where a RAMP check may occur. KRYN, Ryan Field Airport, looks
>> like the closest.
>>
>> What ideas do you guys/gals have for this type of trip?
>>
>> Do not archive.
>>
>> Tom "GummiBear" Gummo
>> Harmon Rocket II N-561FS
>> 370 hours and a big smile
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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