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1. 02:07 AM - Garmin G3X EIS & Auto Pilot (Robin Marks)
2. 03:35 AM - Re: Smoke Systems? (RV6 Flyer)
3. 06:37 AM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Dick & Vicki Sipp)
4. 06:52 AM - Re: Smoke Systems? (Linn Walters)
5. 08:16 AM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 10:54 AM - Re: Smoke Systems? (Timothy E. Cone)
7. 12:46 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Dave Bergh)
8. 04:02 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Scott)
9. 04:59 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Kevin Horton)
10. 04:59 PM - New product introduction: TCW Technologies (Bob-tcw)
11. 10:38 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
12. 10:43 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
13. 10:43 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
14. 10:53 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
15. 10:56 PM - Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... (Matt Dralle)
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Subject: | Garmin G3X EIS & Auto Pilot |
As a heads up on the 20th Garmin announced the EIS component of the G3X
including sensors would be available in February. They further announced
an integrated Autopilot interface when mated to the TruTrak GX (not on
TruTrak's website that I can find). As Garmin says:
TruTrak GX Pilot autopilot has been designed to integrate seamlessly
with the G3X, will enjoy advanced autopilot features that can be
operated right from the PFD. Using controls and status indications
derived from Garmin's certified GFC 700, the G3X autopilot interface
implements sophisticated flight control modes including altitude
preselect and capture, heading hold, GPS navigation with turn
anticipation, and coupled VNAV descents. When used in conjunction with a
GNS 430W or 530W, the G3X can also fly coupled holding patterns,
procedure turns, and WAAS approaches.
Cool!
More basic info:
The basic G3X system is available at a starting street price of $9,995
and includes a GDU 370 glass display, GSU 73 ADAHRS and engine interface
unit, GMU 44 magnetometer and GTP 59 air temperature probe. The G3X
engine sensor kits for Lycoming, Continental, Rotax and Jabiru engines
are sold separately. A software update that adds EIS and autopilot
features is expected to be available for free from www.garmin.com in
February 2010.
Someone on the list was concerned that Garmin may not offer their ADS-b
package for the G3X. Garmin stated in their press release Wednesday:
"Regardless of the type of aircraft a customer operates, they should
never have to sacrifice features or services that enhance situational
awareness, improve safety of flight"
Ok, marketing 101 but as I always thought why would they turn down
$9,000 by not making the new ADS-b available on the G3X?
Robin
BTW, I guess I feel compelled to say I have no ties to Garmin other than
my G900x, 396, Nuvi 200 & 205, Golf GPS and a Garmin T-Shirt I
occasionally use when changing my Aeroshell.
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See inserted answers.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C340+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA
From: flyboyedwards@yahoo.com
Subject: RV-List: Smoke Systems?
Hey Guys and Gals=2C
I was wondering what people are using for their smoke systems. I have a RV-
4=2C and I'm wondering what I should do to get smoke in that plane.
I've looked at the "smoking Airplanes" site=2C and it looks nice=2C but so
does the price tag.
What is everyone using?
Smoking Airplane system. IF you were to design and built yourself=2C you w
ill have just as much money up plus your time.
How about oils?
DO NOT use ATF or motor oil. It gets all over the belly of the airplane.
Smoke oil works best. Diesel fuel is 2nd but flammable. Smoke oil has the
longest HANG time. Diesel is just as thick close to the airplane but THINS
out the smoke trail quickly.
How about two spray nozzles?
Necessary for good smoke stream.
Thanks for all of the help!
Jason Edwards
RV-4 "Dream Chaser"
N28EW- Flying.
Richland Center=2C WI.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
Matt:
You should be very proud, nice work! I really like the interior look.
Dick Sipp
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Subject: | Re: Smoke Systems? |
RV6 Flyer wrote:
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> DO NOT use ATF or motor oil. It gets all over the belly of the airplane.
In my experience, if you're getting oil all over the belly, you're
flowing too much oil .... no matter what the type. ATF is a little
thinner than Corvus oil. I wouldn't think of using motor oil .... the
flash point is way too low.
Linn
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
Great job Matt.. That plane is looking super. !!!!
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
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Subject: RV-List: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8...
Hey RV'ers,
I've been a little quiet lately on the List because I've been working so
hard on the RV-8! I'm happy to report that the Engine, Interior, Wirin
g, Avionics, and canopy are all complete. Basically all I've got left i
s some fiberglass around the windscreen, and a few other odds and ends a
nd its time to move it out to the hanger for final assembly! I thought
I'd share a few current pictures just for fun.
Test flight in March...?
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
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Subject: | Re: Smoke Systems? |
Gary,
I agree with you about the oils with one addition. DO NOT use recycled
french fry oil...don't ask how I know. I almost got a new callsign
outta that one. I like Slick lots mobetter than "Greesey"
I have to disagree with you about the roll your own. My smoke is just
as strong as any system I've seen, and I'm not more than $200 into it.
Here are some pics of my system
http://picasaweb.google.com/tconerv8/SmokeSystem#
A poly tank from NorthernTool.com for $36 Mine is a 3.5 gallon model
that fits in the forward baggage space in the -8.
I picked my pump up at an ag supply place for about $60.
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_357081
_357081
The solenoid is about $35
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110380750
209&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Various hoses and wiring don't add up to the $500 difference, so I
splurged on a Smoking Airplanes nozzle for $45.
All that said, the guy at Smoking Airplanes is a hell of a nice guy and
if I were not so darned cheap, I'd have bought from him, but I couldn't
swallow the price.
Tim
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From: RV6 Flyer
To: RV List
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 3:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Smoke Systems?
See inserted answers.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell,
2,340+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 20:02:16 -0800
From: flyboyedwards@yahoo.com
Subject: RV-List: Smoke Systems?
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Hey Guys and Gals,
I was wondering what people are using for their smoke systems. I
have a RV-4, and I'm wondering what I should do to get smoke in that
plane.
I've looked at the "smoking Airplanes" site, and it looks nice,
but so does the price tag.
What is everyone using?
Smoking Airplane system. IF you were to design and built
yourself, you will have just as much money up plus your time.
How about oils?
DO NOT use ATF or motor oil. It gets all over the belly of the
airplane.
Smoke oil works best. Diesel fuel is 2nd but flammable. Smoke
oil has the longest HANG time. Diesel is just as thick close to the
airplane but THINS out the smoke trail quickly.
How about two spray nozzles?
Necessary for good smoke stream.
Thanks for all of the help!
Jason Edwards
RV-4 "Dream Chaser"
N28EW- Flying.
Richland Center, WI.
DO NOT ARCHIVE.
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Subject: | Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
Matt,
That is some beautiful work on everything - love the headrest display for
the PX.
Those seats look very nice as well-what's the story on them?
Dave Bergh
RV-6 Slowwwww build
Mtn Home, ID
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
And where's the steam gauges? ;)
Dave Bergh wrote:
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> Matt,
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> That is some beautiful work on everything - love the headrest display
> for the PX.
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> Those seats look very nice as well-whats the story on them?
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> Dave Bergh
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
On 22 Jan 2010, at 00:45, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Hey RV'ers,
>
> I've been a little quiet lately on the List because I've been
> working so hard on the RV-8! I'm happy to report that the Engine,
> Interior, Wiring, Avionics, and canopy are all complete. Basically
> all I've got left is some fiberglass around the windscreen, and a
> few other odds and ends and its time to move it out to the hanger
> for final assembly! I thought I'd share a few current pictures just
> for fun.
>
> Test flight in March...?
Looks beautiful! The empty weight is likely to be a pretty scary
number though. Oh well.
What is the round thing on the outside of the left aft side of the
canopy skirt?
Good luck with all the final details. You'll be amazed at the number
of little things that crawl out of the woodwork as you shoot for the
first flight. There will be depressingly long periods when the list
of things to do keeps getting longer, even though you are completing
items at a furious rate.
--
Kevin Horton
RV-8
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
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Subject: | New product introduction: TCW Technologies |
Fellow RV builders,
TCW Technologies, is pleased to introduce our newest product, Integrated
Back-up Battery System (IBBS).
IBBS is a complete back-up battery solution for powering critical
electronics such as EFIS, GPS, Autopilots and Engine monitors. The IBBS
product combines a rechargeable ni-mh battery, a smart charger circuit
and the transfer switch in a single enclosure that is easy to install
and only 1/2 the weight of a comparable lead acid battery.
The IBBS provides about 1 hour of back-up endurance for typical EFIS and
GPS systems; additionally, it includes surge suppression and allows
systems to operational before and during engine cranking.
The IBBS system is very easy to install and eliminates other field
installed components such as transfer contactors and diodes.
The IBBS product has been tested by Garmin for use with their G3x series
of products.
For all the details please visit our web site: www.tcwtech.com
Thanks,
Bob Newman
TCW Technologies, LLC.
rv-10 40176
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
It is a combination of textured black power coat and a matching epoxy spray. The
parts that were removable and non-structural, I powder coated. Everything
else got the epoxy spray.
For the exact paint part numbers and types, contact Kraig Maas at Maas Brothers
Powder Coating. Kraig's super and really did an awesome job on all of the parts.
http://maasbrothersinc.com/
I dragged the whole fuselage down to his shop for spraying the inside:
The Trip There:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log=94482&row=100
The Spraying:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log=94686&row=83
The Trip Back:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=0&log=94818&row=76
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
At 09:19 AM 1/22/2010 Friday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>
>Beautiful work. I love the color you choose for your interior. Can you tell me
more about it? It appears to be a hammered look. I looked around your site
but couldn't find any info on it. I'm building a -7 and I'm about ready to start
painting my interior. I hope mine turns out as nice as yours.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tim Bolton
>Denver, NC
>
>RV-7 (#72696)
>www.TheRV7.com (site no longer updated, would rather work on the plane)
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle@matronics.com>
>To: <rv-list@matronics.com>; <rv8-list@matronics.com>; <rv7-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 12:45 AM
>Subject: RV-List: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8...
>
>
>>
>>Hey RV'ers,
>>
>>I've been a little quiet lately on the List because I've been working so hard
on the RV-8! I'm happy to report that the Engine, Interior, Wiring, Avionics,
and canopy are all complete. Basically all I've got left is some fiberglass
around the windscreen, and a few other odds and ends and its time to move it
out to the hanger for final assembly! I thought I'd share a few current pictures
just for fun.
>>
>>Test flight in March...?
>>
>>Matt Dralle
>>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>>http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
>>Final Assembly...
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
"Steam Gauges"? I don't need no 'stinking steam gauges!!! ;-)
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
At 03:26 PM 1/22/2010 Friday, you wrote:
>
>And where's the steam gauges? ;)
>
>
>Dave Bergh wrote:
>>
>>Matt,
>>
>>That is some beautiful work on everything - love the headrest display for the
PX.
>>
>>Those seats look very nice as well-whats the story on them?
>>
>>Dave Bergh
>>
>>RV-6 Slowwwww build
>>
>>Mtn Home, ID
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Subject: | Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
At 12:20 PM 1/22/2010 Friday, you wrote:
>Matt,
>That is some beautiful work on everything - love the headrest display for the
PX.
>Those seats look very nice as well-whats the story on them?
>
>Dave Bergh
>RV-6 Slowwwww build
>Mtn Home, ID
The all-leather/Comferfoam seats are from Classic Aero ( http://www.classic.aero ). There was quite a bit of custom work on the front seat. I documented the whole process here:
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=4395
Luke at Classic was really great to work with. They turned out some REALLY nice
stuff for me. I would highly recommend them!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
At 04:03 PM 1/22/2010 Friday, you wrote:
>
>On 22 Jan 2010, at 00:45, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
>>
>>Hey RV'ers,
>>
>>I've been a little quiet lately on the List because I've been
>>working so hard on the RV-8! I'm happy to report that the Engine,
>>Interior, Wiring, Avionics, and canopy are all complete. Basically
>>all I've got left is some fiberglass around the windscreen, and a
>>few other odds and ends and its time to move it out to the hanger
>>for final assembly! I thought I'd share a few current pictures just
>>for fun.
>>
>>Test flight in March...?
>
>Looks beautiful! The empty weight is likely to be a pretty scary
>number though. Oh well.
>
>What is the round thing on the outside of the left aft side of the
>canopy skirt?
>
>Good luck with all the final details. You'll be amazed at the number
>of little things that crawl out of the woodwork as you shoot for the
>first flight. There will be depressingly long periods when the list
>of things to do keeps getting longer, even though you are completing
>items at a furious rate.
>
>--
>Kevin Horton
>RV-8
>Ottawa, Canada
>http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8
Yeah, I'm pretty scared to put it on the scale, too. I've got everything but the
kitchen sink in there. Good thing I got a big motor! :-)
The roundy thing on the left side panel is the custom canopy lock. It came out
really nice and really works good. Here's some documentation on the installation
(6 log entries):
http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/display_log.php?user=MattsRV8&project=638&category=2973&log=75155&row=223
Yeah, I'm sure there's going to be about 1000 more things to do before I fly.
My time estimates are usually always off by 100%. So, maybe not March, but more
like, May. Either way, still lots of great flying weather!! Maybe Van's Homecoming
this year!
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
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Subject: | Re: Current Status Of Mr. RV-8... |
Well, you'll get there!! I've put about 2200 hours in on the RV-8 project in about
the last 18 months... I started it about mid-June of 08. Its a QB.
I've been dreaming about flying my own RV for 21 years now since I first started
the RV-4 project way back in 1988!! I was one of the youngest people to be
building an RV back then. Now, not so much... ;-)
That first flight will definitely be a very special occasion...
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
Final Assembly...
At 12:16 PM 1/22/2010 Friday, you wrote:
>--> RV7-List message posted by: Bruce Swayze <swayze@europa.com>
>
>Matt,
>
>I'm VERY impressed with all the interior installations. Great job!
>
>Now I realize more than ever just how much work I have ahead of me. Thanks for
the inspiration.
>
>At 09:45 PM 1/21/2010, you wrote:
>
>>Hey RV'ers,
>>
>>I've been a little quiet lately on the List because I've been working so hard
on the RV-8! I'm happy to report that the Engine, Interior, Wiring, Avionics,
and canopy are all complete. Basically all I've got left is some fiberglass
around the windscreen, and a few other odds and ends and its time to move it
out to the hanger for final assembly! I thought I'd share a few current pictures
just for fun.
>>
>>Test flight in March...?
>>
>>Matt Dralle
>>RV-8 #82880 N998RV
>>http://www.mattsrv8.com Tons Of Construction Photos
>>Final Assembly...
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