---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/17/10: 21 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bob Collins) 2. 06:09 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Tony) 3. 06:22 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc.) 4. 07:12 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bruce B. Bell) 5. 07:19 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Chris Stone) 6. 07:28 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Robin Marks) 7. 07:35 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (n801bh@netzero.com) 8. 07:49 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Denis Walsh) 9. 07:51 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Paul Bowmar) 10. 08:07 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Mike Divan) 11. 09:22 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bob Collins) 12. 10:11 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Richard Tasker) 13. 10:50 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (David Maib) 14. 10:53 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Bob Collins) 15. 11:25 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (David Maib) 16. 11:39 AM - Re: Santa Barbara (Dale Ensing) 17. 12:08 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Mike Divan) 18. 01:13 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Robin Marks) 19. 01:45 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Richard Tasker) 20. 04:46 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Kelly McMullen) 21. 06:55 PM - Re: Santa Barbara (Sherman Butler) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:01 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Oh, you want to move somewhere where the congressional delegation isn't made up of bobos? You're gonna need a passport. (g) do not archive. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Divan Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:53 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Minnesota ??????? You are the guys that gave us Senator Al Franken if I am not mistaken. That goes in the negative side of my paper when thinking of Minnesota for retirement ;) O - if that gets your goat .... relax and laugh a little. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! _____ From: Bob Collins Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:47:46 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara I recommend Minnesota. Winter flying is great. And you can drive to oshkosh. What else does anyone need? (g) Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H. Ivan Haecker Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Ok, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and would like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the place, how about some discussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of living is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lower than most places and the summers are awfully long, hot and humid. Any suggestions on where to retire that include all of the above except the last? Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - well OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas (lived there for a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this info relates to the operation of RV's IMHO. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ N911HS building FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! _____ From: Terry Watson Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay for sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I drive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with all the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfare system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal news (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it's a good life in spite of all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the money (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, great weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. 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Do not archive =C2-Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the=C2-Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard tha t guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! From: Chuck Weyant Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:38:10 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara [The entire original message is not included] ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:58 AM PST US From: "Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc." Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Mike, For retirement checkout our website, www.lakesandleisurerealty.com most of us don't like Franken, but you win some and lose some. We lost! Sales Taxes here 6.5% and climbing. Beautiful morning in Northern MN, 5 above, great for flying. Jim Fogarty RV9a building ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Minnesota ??????? You are the guys that gave us Senator Al Franken if I am not mistaken. That goes in the negative side of my paper when thinking of Minnesota for retirement ;) O - if that gets your goat .... relax and laugh a little. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Bob Collins To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:47:46 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara I recommend Minnesota. Winter flying is great. And you can drive to oshkosh. What else does anyone need? (g) Do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H. Ivan Haecker Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Ok, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and would like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the place, how about some discussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of living is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lower than most places and the summers are awfully long, hot and humid. Any suggestions on where to retire that include all of the above except the last? Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - well OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas (lived there for a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this info relates to the operation of RV's IMHO. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ N911HS building FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Terry Watson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay for sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I drive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with all the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfare system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal news (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it=99s a good life in spite of all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the money (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, great weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. John D __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4866 (20100214) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. ========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp ://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matroni=================== =====" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="h ttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.m atronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/con=============== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:42 AM PST US From: "Bruce B. Bell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara KLBB Do Not Archive!! From: H. Ivan Haecker Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Ok, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and would like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the place, how about some discussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of living is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lower than most places and the summers are awfully long, hot and humid. Any suggestions on where to retire that include all of the above except the last? Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - well OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas (lived there for a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this info relates to the operation of RV's IMHO. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ N911HS building FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: Terry Watson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay for sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I drive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with all the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfare system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal news (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it=99s a good life in spite of all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the money (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, great weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. John D __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4866 (20100214) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. ========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp ://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matroni=================== ==== " target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:53 AM PST US From: Chris Stone Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Love my RV... Now if I can just make it fly!!!! ...oh boy! -----Original Message----- From: Bob Collins Sent: Feb 16, 2010 2:35 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara How 'bout those RVs, eh? Pretty good planes, don't ya think? (g) From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of n801bh@netzero.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:16 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara I agree.... Feedback is good... If someone can't handle the truth,, hit the delete key please. Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Terry Watson" Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay for sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I drive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with all the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfare system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal news (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and its a good life in spite of all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the money (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, great weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. John D __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4866 (20100214) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. ========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:56 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara From: "Robin Marks" QXQgd2hhdCBwb2ludCBkb2VzIHRoaXMgbm90IGJlY29tZSBSViByZWxhdGVkPyBJIHRoaW5rIHdl IGhhdmUgcGFzc2VkIHRoYXQgcG9pbnQuIFBsZWFzZSB0YWtlIHRoaXMgb3ZlciB0byB0aGUgU3R1 cGlkUG9saXRpY2FsUmFudHMtTGlzdCAuIEFuZCBCZW4sIHRoYXQgaXMgeW91ciDigJxUcnV0aOKA 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The people in California are the smartest critters in the world .. In fact just this week they made an amazing discovery.. Heaviest Element Yet Known to Science Discovered February 15, 2010 - 14: 09 ET Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California has now identified with certainty the heaviest element known to science. The new element, P elosium (PL), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons , and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312. Th ese 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are s urrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons. Pelo sium is inert, and has no charge and no magnetism. Nevertheless, it can be detected because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into c ontact. A tiny amount of Pelosium can cause a reaction that would normal ly take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete. Pelosium has a normal half-life of 2 years. It does not decay, but inste ad undergoes a biennial reorganization in which a portion of the assista nt neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. Pelosium mass will incr ease over time, since each reorganization will promote many morons to be come isodopes. This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scienti sts to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as critical mor ass. When catalyzed with money, Pelosium becomes Senatorium, an element that radiates just as much energy as Pelosium since it has half as many peons but twice as many morons. do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Bruce B. Bell" Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara KLBB Do Not Archive!! From: H. Ivan Haecker Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PMTo: rv-lis t@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Ok, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and w ould like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the pl ace, how about some discussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of livi ng is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lower than most places and the summers are aw fully long, hot and humid. Any suggestions on where to retire that inclu de all of the above except the last? Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AMSubject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - well OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas ( lived there for a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this info relates to the operation of RV's IMHO. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ N911HS building FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! From: Terry Watson Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This s ubject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't wa nt to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you ple ase take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that no nsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wr ote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay fo r sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and la bors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent an d/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One perce nt of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I dr ive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with a ll the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfar e system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal new s (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria F inch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it=99s a good life in spite o f all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the mone y (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol. com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if i t's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can sw ing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, gre at weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. John D __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signat ure database 4866 (20100214) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.co mhttp://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matroni===== ===================" target="_bl ank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums .matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www. matronics.com/chref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http: //www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com ">http://forums.matronics.comhref="http://www.matronics.com/contributi ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ================= ____________________________________________________________ Banking Click here to find the perfect banking opportunity! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=VN8nK4sbbIPkzplSr3Gyo gAAJ1HOX6m7NtFYSFKPhB8gxgzbAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXe AAAAAA ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:49:43 AM PST US From: Denis Walsh Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. Denis On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: > At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have > passed that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants- > List . And Ben, that is your =93Truth=94 not =93The Truth.=94 Terry, we are > not trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists > self imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. > > Robin > Do Not Archive > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > ] On Behalf Of Mike Divan > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara > > Yea I was quite impressed also - with his arrogance. ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:51:13 AM PST US From: "Paul Bowmar" Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara If I could afford California, I would look here first. More attractive to me than the frozen white wastelands. http://www.caribbeanislandbrokers.com/islands-for-sale Ahh, but I can afford colorful Southern Utah with fantastic flying. Paul Bowmar RV-4 N67KB ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Fogarty, Lakes & Leisure Realty, Inc. To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 7:22 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Mike, For retirement checkout our website, www.lakesandleisurerealty.com most of us don't like Franken, but you win some and lose some. We lost! Sales Taxes here 6.5% and climbing. Beautiful morning in Northern MN, 5 above, great for flying. Jim Fogarty RV9a building ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:52 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Minnesota ??????? You are the guys that gave us Senator Al Franken if I am not mistaken. That goes in the negative side of my paper when thinking of Minnesota for retirement ;) O - if that gets your goat .... relax and laugh a little. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Bob Collins To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:47:46 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara I recommend Minnesota. Winter flying is great. And you can drive to oshkosh. What else does anyone need? (g) Do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of H. Ivan Haecker Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Ok, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and would like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the place, how about some discussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of living is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lower than most places and the summers are awfully long, hot and humid. Any suggestions on where to retire that include all of the above except the last? Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Divan To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - well OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas (lived there for a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this info relates to the operation of RV's IMHO. Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ N911HS building FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Terry Watson To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Please, use your delete key instead of trying to censor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is definitely RV related. Terry From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Randles Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara At least I don't mind turning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants offline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible. Tim On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant wrote: So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What did you pay for sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)? We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in California. An example: I drive a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees went up $18 dollars this year to $108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! And what are we doing with all the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV funds have been hijacked from the highway fund and redirected into the general fund. The California welfare system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest welfare system in the nation by far! And our roads are an embarrassment with potholes galore, even on the Federal Freeway System! In short, how do you feel about all the taxes with little or no benefit except to the California welfare programs (including illegals)? Nothing has been exaggerated. You've been reading/listening to too much liberal news (which is about all we've got here in CA)...and believing it apparently my RV9A brother. It's going to get even worse! Chuck RV9A (458 hours) RV10 (sold) 1941 Meyers OTW (Project) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it=99s a good life in spite of all the doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggerated. If you have the money (Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB, maybe you've spent some time there before. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:58 PM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, great weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and your family. John D __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4866 (20100214) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. ========== get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List ========== http://forums.matronics.com ========== le, List Admin. ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution ========== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp ://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matroni=================== =====" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.comhref="h ttp://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.m atronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/con=============== href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics. com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:13 AM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara OUTSTANDING :)=0A=0Ado not arcive=0A=0A Mike Divan=0AN64GH - RV6 (flying) =0Ahttp://n64gh.blogspot.com/=0AFREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SO LDIER FOR YOURS!=0ARemember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and C oast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "n801bh@netzero.com" < n801bh@netzero.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, February 17, 2 010 7:33:28 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A=0A=0AGuys.... The p eople in California are the smartest critters in the world.. In fact just t his week they made an amazing discovery..=0AHeaviest Element Yet Known to S cience Discovered =0AFebruary 15, 2010 - 14:09 ET =0A=0ALawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California has now =0Aidentified with certainty the heaviest element known to science. =0A=0AThe new element, Pelosium (PL), ha s one neutron, 25 assistant =0Aneutrons, 88 deputy neutrons, and 198 assist ant deputy neutrons, =0Agiving it an atomic mass of 312. =0A=0AThese 312 pa rticles are held together by forces called morons, which =0Aare surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called =0Apeons. =0A=0APelosium is inert, and has no charge and no magnetism. Nevertheless, =0Ait can be d etected because it impedes every reaction with which it =0Acomes into conta ct. A tiny amount of Pelosium can cause a reaction =0Athat would normally t ake less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 =0Ayears to complete. =0A =0APelosium has a normal half-life of 2 years. It does not decay, but =0Ain stead undergoes a biennial reorganization in which a portion of the =0Aassi stant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places. =0A=0APelosium mass wil l increase over time, since each reorganization will =0Apromote many morons to become isodopes. =0A=0AThis characteristic of moron promotion leads som e scientists to =0Abelieve that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a critical =0Aconcentration. This hypothetical quantity is referred to as cri tical =0Amorass. =0A=0AWhen catalyzed with money, Pelosium becomes Senatori um, an element =0Athat radiates just as much energy as Pelosium since it ha s half as =0Amany peons but twice as many morons. =0A=0Ado not archive=0A =0A=0ABen Haas=0AN801BH=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A---------- Original Mes sage ----------=0AFrom: "Bruce B. Bell" =0ATo: < rv-list@matronics.com>=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0ADate: Wed, 1 7 Feb 2010 09:09:04 -0600=0A=0A=0AKLBB=0A =0ADo Not Archive!! =0A=0A=0AFrom : H. Ivan Haecker =0ASent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:46 PM=0ATo: rv-list @matronics.com =0ASubject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A=0AOk, I'll stir up the pot. I have lived in South Central TX forever and would like to retire soon. Since we listers are scattered all over the place, how about some di scussion on a good place to retire with one's RV? I'll start by saying that here in the San Antonio area, the cost of living is moderate, the weather is mostly vfr, there is a moderate amount of flying activity, avgas is lowe r than most places and the summers are awfully long, hot and humid. Any sug gestions on where to retire that include all of the above except the last? =0A =0AIvan Haecker -4 1602 hrs.=0A =0A----- Original Message ----- =0A >From: Mike Divan =0A>To: rv-list@matronics.com =0A>Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:31 AM=0A>Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>=0A>Heck I think it is RV related also. The price of operating a RV here in SoCal - we ll OK California. I can retire in 4 years and thinking Texas (lived there f or a while way back) might get me more RV fun for the money :) All this inf o relates to the operation of RV's IMHO.=0A>=0A> Mike Divan=0A>N64GH - RV6 (flying) =0A>http://n64gh.blogspot.com/=0A>N911HS building=0A>FREEDOM IS NO T FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!=0A>Remember it is the Soldie r, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT t he "community organizer"!=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A_______________________ _________=0A From: Terry Watson =0A>To: rv-list@matroni cs.com=0A>Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 9:17:03 PM=0A>Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>=0A>Please, use your delete key instead of trying to c ensor the list. This subject is very important to some of us, and it is def initely RV related.=0A> =0A>Terry=0A> =0A> =0A>From:owner-rv-list-server@ma tronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ra ndles=0A>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:04 PM=0A>To: rv-list@matronics.c om=0A>Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A> =0A>At least I don't mind tur ning off the tv to avoid the media. I don't want to unsubscribe from this list too. With all due respect, can you please take the political rants of fline? I subscribe to escape all that nonsense as much as possible.=0A>=0A >Tim=0A>On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Chuck Weyant =0A>=0A>So Ralph, how you doing with all those state taxes? What di d you pay for=0A>sales taxes on the RV9A after you put your blood sweat and tears (and labors=0A>of love)into your very own creation? What do you pay for hanger rent and/or=0A>hanger taxes? What's your annual home property taxes (Prop13: One percent=0A>of the sales price or County assessed value, whichever is HIGHER)?=0A>=0A>We pay exorbitant annual DMV fees here in Cali fornia. An example: I drive=0A>a ten year old Ford Taurus and my fees wen t up $18 dollars this year to=0A>$108. Not down as it should have; and for a ten year old car! SUV'S=0A>commonly see $300 to $500 annual DMV fees! A nd what are we doing with all=0A>the taxes (and more to come)? The DMV fund s have been hijacked from the=0A>highway fund and redirected into the gener al fund. The California welfare=0A>system is now five times larger than New York's, we are now the largest=0A>welfare system in the nation by far! An d our roads are an embarrassment=0A>with potholes galore, even on the Feder al Freeway System!=0A>=0A>In short, how do you feel about all the taxes wit h little or no benefit=0A>except to the California welfare programs (includ ing illegals)? Nothing has=0A>been exaggerated. You've been reading/liste ning to too much liberal news=0A>(which is about all we've got here in CA). ..and believing it apparently my=0A>RV9A brother. It's going to get even w orse!=0A>=0A>Chuck=0A>RV9A (458 hours)=0A>RV10 (sold)=0A>1941 Meyers OTW (P roject)=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>From: owner-rv-list-server @matronics.com=0A>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch=0A>Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 4:43 PM=0A>To: rv-li st@matronics.com=0A>Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>--> RV-List message posted by: "Ralph & Maria Finch"=0A>=0A> =0A>Indeed. I live near Sacramento, and it=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s a good life in spite of all the=0A>doom and gloom news, much of which is exaggera ted. If you have the money=0A>(Santa Barbara IS expensive to live) it's a great place to live, though I=0A>can't give you specific info. Sounds like you have a reason to consider SB,=0A>maybe you've spent some time there be fore.=0A>=0A>=0A>Ralph Finch=0A>Davis, California=0A>RV-9A QB-SA=0A>=0A>=0A >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com=0A>[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@m atronics.com] On Behalf Of Tailgummer@aol.com=0A>Sent: Saturday, February 1 3, 2010 6:58 PM=0A>To: rv-list@matronics.com=0A>Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>Coastal Southern CA is really nice. Suggest you try it out and see if it's=0A>to your liking. Cost of living is a factor, of course, but if you can swing=0A>it go for it. This just may be the time to buy??? =0A> Many airports, friendly pilots, a multitude of servfces available, gr eat=0A>weather, lots to see and do. Life is short, do what suits you and y our=0A>family.=0A> John D=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>__________ Information from E SET Smart Security, version of virus signature=0A>database 4866 (20100214) __________=0A>=0A>The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>============0A>ge t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0A>===== =======0A>http://forums.matronics.com/=0A>======= =====0A>le, List Admin.=0A>="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/con tribution=0A>============0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0A>http://forums.matronics.c om=0A>http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A> =0A>http://www.matroni= ========================0A>" target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">ht tp://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics .com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.co m/c=0A>=0A=0A=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http:// www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ c =0A=0A=0A===================== ================0Atp://www.matronics.com/Navi gator?RV-List=0A=================== ==================0Atronics.com=0A== ==========0Awww.matronics.com/contribution=0A==== ======= =0A=0A=0A____________________________________________ ________________ =0ABanking=0AClick here to find the perfect banking opport -======================== ====================0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:22:14 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . How's that? (g) Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denis Walsh Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. Denis On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have passed that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants-List . And Ben, that is your "Truth" not "The Truth." Terry, we are not trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists self imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. Robin Do Not Archive From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Divan Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Yea I was quite impressed also - with his arrogance. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:11:41 AM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Bob, You forgot slider vs tilt canopy and taildragger vs nosedragger. And as far as where to retire (or not)... Don't even think about NJ - it has the cold like MN and the taxes and corruption like CA - although the countryside is very nice here in northwestern NJ. Dick Tasker Bob Collins wrote: > I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk > about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . > How's that? (g) > Do not archive > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Denis Walsh > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara > > Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? > > We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. > > Denis > On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: > >> At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have passed >> that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants-List . >> And Ben, that is your Truth not The Truth. Terry, we are not >> trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists self >> imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. >> Robin >> Do Not Archive >> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Divan >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM >> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara >> Yea I was quite impressed also - with his arrogance. > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:45 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara AMEN!! David Maib 40559 flying do not archive On Feb 17, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Bob Collins wrote: I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . How's that? (g) Do not archive From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denis Walsh Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. Denis On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: > At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have > passed that point. Please take this over to the > StupidPoliticalRants-List . And Ben, that is your =93Truth=94 not =93The > Truth.=94 Terry, we are not trying to censor the list, we are trying > to follow the lists self imposed guidelines being inclusive not > divisive. > Robin > Do Not Archive > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Divan > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara > Yea I was quite impressed also - with his arrogance. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http:// www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:11 AM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara HA! Where are the core concentrations of RVers? It's always seemed like Texas, the Pacific Northwest, Minnesota, and Southern California. Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? Wherever one retires to, I assume one would want to have (a) a good airport and (b) good airport friends around. Taxes are no fun, but at the other end of the spectrum, I guess I wouldn't want to end up in some god forsaken place with a dirt and rock runway, a broken down airport dog, and a rusty can that inspires the day's intellectual highlight: figuring out why somebody can spit as far as the can and some people can't. Oh, and you don't want to go where there's a lot of slider RVs that weren't primed and have nosewheels. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tasker Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:09 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Bob, You forgot slider vs tilt canopy and taildragger vs nosedragger. And as far as where to retire (or not)... Don't even think about NJ - it has the cold like MN and the taxes and corruption like CA - although the countryside is very nice here in northwestern NJ. Dick Tasker Bob Collins wrote: > I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk > about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . > How's that? (g) > Do not archive > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Denis Walsh > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara > > Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? > > We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. > > Denis > On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: > >> At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have passed >> that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants-List . >> And Ben, that is your "Truth" not "The Truth." Terry, we are not >> trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists self >> imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. >> Robin >> Do Not Archive >> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Divan >> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM >> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Yea I was quite impressed also >> - with his arrogance. > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics > .com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ > c > * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:42 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Bob Collins wrote: Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? Wherever one retires to, I assume one would want to have (a) a good airport and (b) good airport friends around. Lot's of RV's here in Florida, too. I exchanged Minnesota for Florida and lucked into a nice little airport (KEVB) and lots of good airport friends. There are four RV's being built on the airport right now. David Maib 40559 flying "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." -Mark Twain On Feb 17, 2010, at 1:52 PM, Bob Collins wrote: Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:39:27 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Have been laying low on this discussion because I didn't want to give away the secret of the RVators in the Carolinas. But can't control myself any longer!. The Carolinas........ Beautiful mountains to the North for cool flights in the summer and color tours flights in the fall Beautiful ocean seashore/beaches to the East for three seasons. Sunny warm Florida in the South for the winter trips. And the birth place of aviation with many RV friends to help enjoy it. Can't think of a place I would rather be with my 6A nose wheel slider. Dale Ensing RV-6A N118DE (just another Yankee gone South) do not arhive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Collins" Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 1:52 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara > > HA! Where are the core concentrations of RVers? It's always seemed like > Texas, the Pacific Northwest, Minnesota, and Southern California. > > Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? > > Wherever one retires to, I assume one would want to have (a) a good > airport > and (b) good airport friends around. Taxes are no fun, but at the other > end > of the spectrum, I guess I wouldn't want to end up in some god forsaken > place with a dirt and rock runway, a broken down airport dog, and a rusty > can that inspires the day's intellectual highlight: figuring out why > somebody can spit as far as the can and some people can't. > > Oh, and you don't want to go where there's a lot of slider RVs that > weren't > primed and have nosewheels. > > > Do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:08:42 PM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Just because you do not think the subject is interesting does not mean =0A it is not rv related. Just like primer, where the third wheel is on =0Athe back where it belongs (I could not help it), tip up or slider. =0ASome fi nd interesting some do not. That is the way of things. Laugh =0Aabout it, ignor it whatever. Just thank god you live in a country =0Awhere we can en joy flying, building and friendly arguments. It is all =0Agood. Lighten up enjoy the folks and the beautiful day.=0A=0ABy the way I cannot figure out bow to remove the "Sent from my ..." =0Athingy no socal snobery intended =0A=0AMike D=0AN64GH=0A=0ASent from my iPod=0A=0AOn Feb 17, 2010, at 7:27 A M, "Robin Marks" =0Awrote:=0A=0A> At what point do es this not become RV related? I think we have =0A> passed that point. Ple ase take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants- =0A> List . And Ben, that i s your =9CTruth=9D not =9CThe Truth.=9D Terry, =0A > we are not trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the li =0A> sts self imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Robin=0A>=0A> Do Not Archive=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> From: owner-rv-list-server@mat ronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list- =0A> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of M ike Divan=0A> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM=0A> To: rv-list@matr onics.com=0A> Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Yea I was quite impressed also - with his arrogance.=0A>=0A> Do not archive=0A>=0A> =0A>=0A> Mike Divan=0A> N64GH - RV6 (flying)=0A> http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ =0A> FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS!=0A> Rememb er it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard =0A> that gua rantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"!=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> From: Chuck Weyant =0A> To: rv-list@matronics.com=0A > Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:38:10 PM=0A> Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa B arbara=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Enjoy. But there places out there in the great U.S. with a higher =0A> quality of life than the mess in California. And oh, I=99m soooo impr =0A> essed with your wealth.=0A>=0A> CW=0A>=0A> Do n ot archive=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto :owner-rv-list- =0A> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph & Maria Finch =0A> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:49 PM=0A> To: rv-list@matronics.com =0A> Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> OK, for all you gu ys that can=99t afford California:=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Delete yourselves from the state, and leave.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Quit whining about it here. Pre tty simple I think.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Me, I can afford it, and my RV build, a nd my current certificated =0A> airplane, thank you very much. So I =99ll stay.=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> RF=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus =0A> signature database 4869 (201002 15) __________=0A>=0A> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0A> http://forums.m atronics.com=0A> http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>=0A> http://www.m atronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listw" target="_blank" href="http://www.matro nics.com/contribution =0A> ">http://============= -======================== ====================0A>=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:13:20 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara From: "Robin Marks" TWlrZSwgSSBoYXZlIHRvIGRpZmZlciB3aXRoIHlvdXIgcmVwbHkuIEEgbGltZXJpY2sgZXh0b2xs aW5nIHRoZSBpZGlvY3kgb2Ygb25lIFBPTElUSUNBTCBwYXJ0eSBvciBwb2xpdGljaWFuIGluIHJl c3BvbnNlIHRvIGEgcHJpb3IgY29tbWVudCBpbiB0aGUgc2FtZSB2ZWluIGlzIE5PVCBSViByZWxh 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PT09PT09PT09PT09PQ0KXy09ICAgICAgICAgICAgIC0gTGlzdCBDb250cmlidXRpb24gV2ViIFNp dGUgLQ0KXy09ICBUaGFuayB5b3UgZm9yIHlvdXIgZ2VuZXJvdXMgc3VwcG9ydCENCl8tPSAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgIC1NYXR0IERyYWxsZSwgTGlzdCBBZG1pbi4NCl8tPSAg IC0tPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20vY29udHJpYnV0aW9uDQpfLT09PT09PT09PT09 PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PT09PQ0KIA0K ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 01:45:26 PM PST US From: Richard Tasker Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Actually, when you consider the number of RVs flying (6641 according to Van's hobbs meter) with untold more being built, it is probably hard to find any reputable airport that doesn't have one or two. I know that there are quite a number at the airports around here in NJ - some of them with sliders and nosewheels (mine included, but it was primed). ;-) Dick Tasker Bob Collins wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" > > HA! Where are the core concentrations of RVers? It's always seemed like > Texas, the Pacific Northwest, Minnesota, and Southern California. > > Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? > > Wherever one retires to, I assume one would want to have (a) a good airport > and (b) good airport friends around. Taxes are no fun, but at the other end > of the spectrum, I guess I wouldn't want to end up in some god forsaken > place with a dirt and rock runway, a broken down airport dog, and a rusty > can that inspires the day's intellectual highlight: figuring out why > somebody can spit as far as the can and some people can't. > > Oh, and you don't want to go where there's a lot of slider RVs that weren't > primed and have nosewheels. > > > Do not archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tasker > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:09 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara > > --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker > > Bob, You forgot slider vs tilt canopy and taildragger vs nosedragger. > > And as far as where to retire (or not)... Don't even think about NJ - it has > the cold like MN and the taxes and corruption like CA - although the > countryside is very nice here in northwestern NJ. > > Dick Tasker > > Bob Collins wrote: > >> I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk >> about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . >> How's that? (g) >> Do not archive >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Denis Walsh >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM >> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara >> >> Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? >> >> We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. >> >> Denis >> On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: >> >> >>> At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have passed >>> that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants-List . >>> And Ben, that is your "Truth" not "The Truth." Terry, we are not >>> trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists self >>> imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. >>> Robin >>> Do Not Archive >>> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> >>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Divan >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM >>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Yea I was quite impressed also >>> - with his arrogance. >>> >> * >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics >> .com/Navigator?RV-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ >> c >> * >> * >> >> >> * >> > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:07 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Well, AZ has a ton of RVs of all flavors. My home drome has several flying 8's,7's, 6's, 4's as well as at least 3 10s under construction, a couple 9s and 8 under construction. do not archive Richard Tasker wrote: > > Actually, when you consider the number of RVs flying (6641 according > to Van's hobbs meter) with untold more being built, it is probably > hard to find any reputable airport that doesn't have one or two. I > know that there are quite a number at the airports around here in NJ - > some of them with sliders and nosewheels (mine included, but it was > primed). ;-) > > Dick Tasker > > Bob Collins wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" >> >> HA! Where are the core concentrations of RVers? It's always seemed like >> Texas, the Pacific Northwest, Minnesota, and Southern California. >> >> Are there any other hotbeds. Ohio Valley? Georgia? >> >> Wherever one retires to, I assume one would want to have (a) a good >> airport >> and (b) good airport friends around. Taxes are no fun, but at the >> other end >> of the spectrum, I guess I wouldn't want to end up in some god forsaken >> place with a dirt and rock runway, a broken down airport dog, and a >> rusty >> can that inspires the day's intellectual highlight: figuring out why >> somebody can spit as far as the can and some people can't. >> >> Oh, and you don't want to go where there's a lot of slider RVs that >> weren't >> primed and have nosewheels. >> >> >> Do not archive >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Tasker >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:09 PM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Richard Tasker >> >> Bob, You forgot slider vs tilt canopy and taildragger vs nosedragger. >> >> And as far as where to retire (or not)... Don't even think about NJ - >> it has >> the cold like MN and the taxes and corruption like CA - although the >> countryside is very nice here in northwestern NJ. >> >> Dick Tasker >> >> Bob Collins wrote: >> >>> I swear to God the best rules in aviation are "hangar rules" No talk >>> about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer . >>> How's that? (g) >>> Do not archive >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> -- >>> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Denis Walsh >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM >>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara >>> >>> Could someone bring Religion in to this thread? >>> >>> We have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,. >>> >>> Denis >>> On Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: >>> >>> >>>> At what point does this not become RV related? I think we have passed >>>> that point. Please take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants-List . >>>> And Ben, that is your "Truth" not "The Truth." Terry, we are not >>>> trying to censor the list, we are trying to follow the lists self >>>> imposed guidelines being inclusive not divisive. >>>> Robin >>>> Do Not Archive >>>> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>>> >>>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Divan >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 PM >>>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Santa Barbara Yea I was quite impressed also >>>> - with his arrogance. >>>> >>> * >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics >>> .com/Navigator?RV-List >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/ >>> c >>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:55:04 PM PST US From: Sherman Butler Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara Actually, I was on a Bonanza list that discussed any topic. =C2-I quit do to the 200 - 300 emails daily. =C2-The discussion was just done with som e politeness and friendship. =C2-With an occasional I know Mike won't agr ee with this..., or several paragraphs of thoughtful discussion. --------- Political thought you may wish to skip =C2------- My thought for the day. =C2-I believe the the ideas and the perception of "truth" of Ayn Rand and Karl Marx both are both incompatible with a=C2-f unctional democracy. =C2-Please do not comment to this on the list. do not archive Sherman Butler G-35RV-7a Wings =0AN497GS reserved =0ACarlsbad, NM --- On Wed, 2/17/10, Bob Collins wrote: From: Bob Collins Subject: RE: RV-List: Santa Barbara =0A=0A =0A =0A=0A =0AI swear to God=C2- the best rules in aviation are "h angar =0Arules"=C2-=C2- No talk about (a) Religion (b) Politics and (c) Primer =0A.=0A=C2-=0AHow's that? (g)=0A=C2-=0ADo not =0Aarchive=0A=C2 -=0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com =0A[mailto:owner-rv-list- server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Denis =0AWalsh Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 9:49 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Santa =0ABarbara =0ACould someone bring Religion in to this thread? =C2-=0A =0AWe have covered politics, economy, geography, retirement, taxes,.=0A =0ADenis =0A=0AOn Feb 17, 2010, at 8:27 , Robin Marks wrote: =0A=0A At what point =0A does this not become RV related? I think we have passed that point. Please =0A take this over to the StupidPoliticalRants- List . And Ben, that is your =0A =9CTruth=9D not =9CThe Truth.=9D Terry, we are not trying to censor the list, we are =0A tr ying to follow the lists self imposed guidelines being inclusive not =0A d ivisive. =0A =0A Robin =0A Do Not =0A Archive =0A =0A =0A =0A Fro m:=C2-owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com =0A [mailto:owner-rv-list-serve r@matronics.com]=C2-On Behalf Of=C2-Mike Divan Sent:=C2-Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:59 =0A PM To:=C2-rv-list@matronics.com Subject:=C2-Re: RV-List: Santa =0A Barbara =0A =0A =0A Yea =0A I wa s quite impressed also - with his =0Aarrogance. =0A=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0Ahref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://for ums.matronics.com=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://w =========================0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.