---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 02/19/10: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:45 AM - Re: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recommendations (Randy Utsey) 2. 09:05 AM - Re: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recommendations (Ed Holyoke) 3. 09:49 AM - Re: Inspection Panels (Mike Robertson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:11 AM PST US From: "Randy Utsey" Subject: Re: RV-List: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recommendations I have flown into Manassas several times on an IFR basis (from the south and no problem). Flew into Fredericksburg once with a two ship VFR, and no problem, but you do have to have the SFRA "Certificate of Achievement" with you! Randy Utsey D.J. Distributing Co. 1429 Bryant St. Charlotte, NC 28208 800-585-4126 Please note new e-mail address! randy@djdist.com www.djdist.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan McKeen To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:44 PM Subject: RV-List: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recommendations Greetings, I am planning a trip to Washington DC from Central New York State during spring of 2010. We want to fly our RV-6 to the Washington DC area and then commute into the city to visit the Smithsonian Natural History museum and some monuments. I am asking for recommendations and experience about what airport to fly into and what methods of transportation to be used to get into the city. I am aware of and will be prepared for the special flight rules pertaining to the Washington DC metropolitan area. Alan McKeen EAA Flight Advisor EAA Technical Counselor 315-451-9207 Home 315-391-2460 Cell ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:05:20 AM PST US From: Ed Holyoke Subject: Re: RV-List: Travel to Washington DC, Request for Experience and Recommendations We flew into Gaithersburg, MD a couple years back and it was no hassle. We had arranged a rental car and it was there. The FBO had the keys and the paperwork. It really was a piece of cake. Pax, Ed Holyoke Richard McBride wrote: > But keep in mind what Neal is describing is the inner ring of the SFRA > which has significantly different rules and procedures. Manassas and > a number of airports are still inside the SFRA but much easier to > negotiate since they're in the outer ring. > > Rick McBride > > On Feb 18, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Bill Boyd wrote: > >> Thanks - cured me of any desire to visit the Swamp by airplane. Just >> as I thought. >> >> -Stormy >> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Neal George > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> Waaay too much trouble. Two IFR-rated pilots, both with >> credentials for all >> three restricted airports in-hand, both active duty military (not >> that it >> matters, but it's a data point). Going in on the required IFR >> flight plan >> was simple enough, if you disregard the 'bonus' 80nm scenic tour >> southeast >> of DC for no apparent reason. Since we were in a rental, the >> extra hour was >> painful. Landed at Potomac and topped the tanks, filed IFR direct to >> College Park - 8nm - and had to leave the ADIZ to the south, fly >> around the >> east end, and back in from the north to land at College Park, all >> vectors. >> Another unnecessary 100 miles, another hour on the rental Hobbs. >> College >> Park was not what I'd call pleasant. Or friendly. When we tried >> to file >> the next day to get out and go home, DHS swore up and down that >> we had no >> clearance be there, demanded to know how we got there in the >> first place and >> wouldn't let us leave - with sunset and a monster thunderstorm >> rolling in. >> After nearly two hours of discussions, we finally got a clearance >> to leave >> the restricted area. Just not worth the hassle or the threat. >> >> I'd fly into Manassas and grab a cab to the Metro... >> >> neal >> >> >> > >> >> Why not? Sounds like you are prepared, so ... >> >> On 2/18/10, Neal George > >> wrote: >> > Alan - >> > >> > I've had good experiences at Manassas and Potomac. >> > >> > I have the appropriate paperwork and approvals, but I'll never >> voluntarily >> > penetrate the ADIZ again. >> > >> > >> > >> > Neal >> >> >> >> ================== >> get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> ========== >> http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> le, List Admin. >> rget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== >> >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> * > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:04 AM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspection Panels Check out Advisory Circular 43.13-1B. Its available on-line but is quite b ig so the best bet is to find what you are looking for and only print that part you need. Mike Robertson Das Fed From: baremetl@gvtc.com Subject: RV-List: Inspection Panels Does anyone know of a source that gives the screw spacing for a generic ins pection hole cover on aluminum skin? I am curious if such a specification e xists and whether it takes panel thickness and fastener diameter into accou nt. I couldn't find what I'm looking for in any of my reference books. Thanks in advance. Ivan Haecker -4 1602 hrs. So.Cen. 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