---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 02/20/10: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:10 PM - ravel to Washington DC, if using Manassas... (Marty Helller) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:58 PM PST US From: Marty Helller Subject: RV-List: ravel to Washington DC, if using Manassas... There was a little mis-leading info in a previous email about using Manassa s (KHEF) airport and jumping on Metro. The train service from the airport is Virginia Rail Express (VRE)=3B not Me tro... VRE has limited service (since it's a ~40 mile trip to DC)=3B So ch eck the hours and days of availability (Mon-Fri) before assuming a train is going to be waiting for you. College Park does have the METRO stop within walking distance..... And of course=2C get smart (e.g.=2C FAASafety.gov=2C or AOPA.org) on the 'S urFRA" rules and the speciliaty requirements for the DC3. Marty Heller (RV-7.....Baffling is done...almost....) > From: n8zg@mchsi.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Travel to Washington DC=2C Request for Experience a nd Recommendations > Date: Thu=2C 18 Feb 2010 19:18:59 -0600 > > > Waaay too much trouble. Two IFR-rated pilots=2C both with credentials for all > three restricted airports in-hand=2C both active duty military (not that it > matters=2C but it's a data point). Going in on the required IFR flight pl an > was simple enough=2C if you disregard the 'bonus' 80nm scenic tour southe ast > of DC for no apparent reason. Since we were in a rental=2C the extra hour was > painful. Landed at Potomac and topped the tanks=2C filed IFR direct to > College Park - 8nm - and had to leave the ADIZ to the south=2C fly around the > east end=2C and back in from the north to land at College Park=2C all vec tors. > Another unnecessary 100 miles=2C another hour on the rental Hobbs. Colleg e > Park was not what I'd call pleasant. Or friendly. When we tried to file > the next day to get out and go home=2C DHS swore up and down that we had no > clearance be there=2C demanded to know how we got there in the first plac e and > wouldn't let us leave - with sunset and a monster thunderstorm rolling in .. > After nearly two hours of discussions=2C we finally got a clearance to le ave > the restricted area. Just not worth the hassle or the threat. > > I'd fly into Manassas and grab a cab to the Metro... > > neal > > > > Why not? Sounds like you are prepared=2C so ... > > On 2/18/10=2C Neal George wrote: > > Alan - > > > > I've had good experiences at Manassas and Potomac. > > > > I have the appropriate paperwork and approvals=2C but I'll never volunt arily > > penetrate the ADIZ again. > > > > > > > > Neal > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free=2C trusted and rich email service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.