---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/18/10: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:12 AM - Re: Taxes (N38CW) 2. 04:56 AM - re places flyer frendly (cheathco) 3. 06:05 AM - Comparison shopping, was taxes (glen matejcek) 4. 06:06 AM - Taxes (Ian) 5. 06:53 AM - Re: Taxes (Linn Walters) 6. 08:53 AM - Re: Taxes (Mike Divan) 7. 08:54 AM - Re: Taxes (Ollie Washburn) 8. 09:08 AM - Re: Taxes (rveighta@comcast.net) 9. 10:05 AM - Re: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes (emrath) 10. 06:58 PM - Re: Taxes (n801bh@netzero.com) 11. 06:59 PM - Re: Taxes (Bob Collins) 12. 09:08 PM - Re: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes (Bret Smith) 13. 09:08 PM - Re: Taxes (Chuck Weyant) 14. 09:57 PM - Re: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes (Chuck Weyant) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:12:39 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Taxes From: "N38CW" I believe Walt resides here... http://www.hensleyairpark.com/index.html [quote="JohnInReno"]I think this is an interesting thread. Walt, I can't seem to find any pointers to the park that you are talking about. Can you repost the website and or airport identifier? john rveighta@comcast.net (rveighta@comcast.net) wrote: > p { margin: 0; } > Chuck, I forwarded your first message to the developer of my airpark, Ted Hensley. Good to hear he responded to you. Like you > I'm retired (DuPont), and have lived in about a dozen states plus five foreign countries. And I like Tennessee the best. Why? > Because it's has the lowest cost of living of any place I've been, the eastern part where I live has spectacular mountain views (5,000' > peaks 4 miles from the runway), the people are friendly and we have a wide diversity of pilots here at the airpark. > > Most pilots are retired, but one is a medivac helo pilot and another flies for Delta. We have a stearman, two J-3's and several RV's (7A, > 7, 9A and the tail section of an RV-12 which I'm building). Most of the pilots are from other states - Florida, Mississippi, Virginia, > New Jersey, Texas and one from California. > > Check out our website and see what you think. If I can be of any help, give me a shout...... > > Walt Shipley (423) 257-6566 > > > > > > [b] -------- Bill Settle RV-8 Wings (Still) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290724#290724 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:56:20 AM PST US From: "cheathco" Subject: RV-List: re places flyer frendly I live in Fayetteville, Ar. Flying weather here isnt the best, but far superior to the SE. I left Atl Ga area because flying weater was ger\nerally poor.(along with high crime rate and terrible trafic) Many mornings waioting till maybe 10 am to get vfr out of LZU. Haze so bad in summer, along with polution. Re tax in Doraville, was over $4000 on $150K. Flying weather very good I understand, in the western states, but I need trees and streams to be happy. Charles Heathco ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:23 AM PST US From: "glen matejcek" Subject: RV-List: Comparison shopping, was taxes You know, this discussion is really interesting and valuable. Given the geographic, demographic, and talent diversity on this list, it seems like we should be able to pool info and experience for a spreadsheet that would allow folks to objectively look at the financial implications of aircraft ownership by state, pre- and post-retirement. If we have someone with the right savvy who would find that an interesting exercise, surely we have members that can fill in the appropriate rates for all 50 states. What an interesting planning tool that would be. Thoughts? glen matejcek aerobubba@earthlink.net ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:06:00 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Taxes From: Ian It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US. You should try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid for by what else - taxes) like Haiti. 9% income taxes sounds like a dream to me. Europeans, Canadians and many others reading these posts must wonder where the average American thinks the highways, defence, good government and all those other things come from if it's not from sharing part of what you earn/have earned in the past to pay for it. Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and wishing the highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in the ER to be seen by a doctor!). ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:54 AM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes I've been following this thread with a look into different perspectives. High taxes are one thing ...... but the aesthetics are also important as Ian alluded to. I live in FL. It's so flat that it must have been ironed when it was installed. But I like mountains! What am I doing in FL??? Well, for 95% of the time I can fly on any day of the week. Sure, we have thunderstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes, but they don't stick around for weeks at a time. It could be a little cooler in the summer, little less humidity, or a little warmer in the winter ..... but notice I said 'little'. Not unbearable. I grouse about taxes only because it's wasted by the Gov't. I don't have state income tax in FL, but I pay taxes on the following: Federal income tax fuel (1-2 pennies locally plus fed excise tax) county general fund library mosquito control recreational tax (for parks etc) schools .... actually three different ones, and I don't have kids in school!) fire control law enforcement roads & bridges ..... in addition to the fuel taxes above a water management district that I can't get rid of Fl inland navigation district (the intracoastal is right next door) sebastian inlet district ..... access to the ocean is not too far away environmental endangered lands .... four separate taxes South Brevard recreation district ..... in addition to the rec tax above solid waste collection solid waste disposal stormwater control fee emergency medical service (part of our fire department above!) local water management district ..... and the two others above Which all comes to less than 2% of my property assessed value ..... not a real big deal. My Fed taxes, however, run in the 30% region because I have the income to enjoy my high priced hobby. This does rankle me, because of the waste and bloat of government and the crappy politics that it pays for. Having said all this ..... sorry if I bore you .... I'm still a whole lot better off than those in a lot of other well-developed countries. I still feel fortunate. However I also feel that there are things that need changing ..... and so I gripe about them. I doubt if utopia exists anywhere in my country (USA, if you haven't a foggiest idea of where Florida is), but I'm kinda happy where I am. Now, don't get me wrong .... I don't want y'all to move here .... we have enough of a problem with 'snowbirds' and hangar space is limited. Now, back to building .... Linn Ian wrote: > It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US. You > should try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid > for by what else - taxes) like Haiti. 9% income taxes sounds like a > dream to me. Europeans, Canadians and many others reading these > posts must wonder where the average American thinks the highways, > defence, good government and all those other things come from if it's > not from sharing part of what you earn/have earned in the past to pay > for it. > Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and > wishing the highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in > the ER to be seen by a doctor!). ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:46 AM PST US From: Mike Divan Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes It is REALLY hard not to launch on this one. I will confine my comment to - The reason taxes are considered 100% negative is the "rugged individualism" that founded this country and the silly thought that what you earn actually belongs to you and not the guy that wants to live off the fruit of his neighbors labor. It is our Constitution (wen followed) that allow us the freedom to work, build, fly and operate our wonderful little RV planes. Not Taxes. And speaking of RV planes - has any one retrofitted a EI engine monitor in a 6? Did the sub panel get in the way? Is the single unit OK or is the remote head a better choice? Plane is opened up for annual and I thought I would do a little up grade. Well depending on how much I owe in taxes on the 15th next month :) Mike Divan N64GH - RV6 (flying) http://n64gh.blogspot.com/ FREEDOM IS NOT FREE - THANK THE AMERICAN SOLDIER FOR YOURS! Remember it is the Soldier, Sailor, Airman, Marine and Coast Guard that guarantee your freedom NOT the "community organizer"! ________________________________ From: Ian Sent: Thu, March 18, 2010 5:59:40 AM Subject: RV-List: Taxes It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US. You should try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid for by what else - taxes) like Haiti. 9% income taxes sounds like a dream to me. Europeans, Canadians and many others reading these posts must wonder where the average American thinks the highways, defence, good government and all those other things come from if it's not from sharing part of what you earn/have earned in the past to pay for it. Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and wishing the highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in the ER to be seen by a doctor!). ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes From: Ollie Washburn They missed our airpark (97FL) when the ironing was done. Ollie, Central FL On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Linn Walters wrote: > I've been following this thread with a look into different perspectives. > High taxes are one thing ...... but the aesthetics are also important as Ian > alluded to. I live in FL. It's so flat that it must have been ironed when > it was installed. But I like mountains! What am I doing in FL??? Well, > for 95% of the time I can fly on any day of the week. Sure, we have > thunderstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes, but they don't stick around for > weeks at a time. It could be a little cooler in the summer, little less > humidity, or a little warmer in the winter ..... but notice I said > 'little'. Not unbearable. > I grouse about taxes only because it's wasted by the Gov't. I don't have > state income tax in FL, but I pay taxes on the following: > > Federal income tax > fuel (1-2 pennies locally plus fed excise tax) > county general fund > library > mosquito control > recreational tax (for parks etc) > schools .... actually three different ones, and I don't have kids in > school!) > fire control > law enforcement > roads & bridges ..... in addition to the fuel taxes above > a water management district that I can't get rid of > Fl inland navigation district (the intracoastal is right next door) > sebastian inlet district ..... access to the ocean is not too far away > environmental endangered lands .... four separate taxes > South Brevard recreation district ..... in addition to the rec tax above > solid waste collection > solid waste disposal > stormwater control fee > emergency medical service (part of our fire department above!) > local water management district ..... and the two others above > > Which all comes to less than 2% of my property assessed value ..... not a > real big deal. > My Fed taxes, however, run in the 30% region because I have the income to > enjoy my high priced hobby. This does rankle me, because of the waste and > bloat of government and the crappy politics that it pays for. > Having said all this ..... sorry if I bore you .... I'm still a whole lot > better off than those in a lot of other well-developed countries. I still > feel fortunate. However I also feel that there are things that need > changing ..... and so I gripe about them. I doubt if utopia exists anywhere > in my country (USA, if you haven't a foggiest idea of where Florida is), but > I'm kinda happy where I am. > Now, don't get me wrong .... I don't want y'all to move here .... we have > enough of a problem with 'snowbirds' and hangar space is limited. > Now, back to building .... > Linn > > > Ian wrote: > > It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US. You should > try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid for by what > else - taxes) like Haiti. 9% income taxes sounds like a dream to me. > Europeans, Canadians and many others reading these posts must wonder where > the average American thinks the highways, defence, good government and all > those other things come from if it's not from sharing part of what you > earn/have earned in the past to pay for it. > Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and wishing the > highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in the ER to be seen > by a doctor!). > > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:39 AM PST US From: rveighta@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes Linn, I've got a buddy here at Hensley Airpark in NE TN who lives here from the 1st of May through October, then returns to his Airpark home in Ft. Me yers, FL. Now that's the best of both worlds. It does get cold here in wint er (our pond froze solid this winter), but winter flying over the mountains has it's rewards as well; I really enjoyed flying my RV8 over the ski reso rts early in the AM when the air was crisp and cold - great lift - but I ha ve to admit I'm a TN native and love this place. It's not for everyone thou gh, it's small town America, some of the people have accents that even I ha ve difficulty understanding and the Ammenities aren't on par with CA, DE, N J or some of the other places I've lived, but it's HOME. And those mtn view s are fantastic! Walt Shipley=C2- (sorry for the ramble, definitely DO NOT ARCHIVE) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linn Walters" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:41:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes I've been following this thread with a look into different perspectives.=C2 - High taxes are one thing ...... but the aesthetics are also important a s Ian alluded to.=C2- I live in FL.=C2- It's so flat that it must have been ironed when it was installed.=C2- But I like mountains!=C2- What a m I doing in FL???=C2- Well, for 95% of the time I can fly on any day of the week.=C2- Sure, we have thunderstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes, but they don't stick around for weeks at a time.=C2- It could be a little coo ler in the summer, little less humidity, or a little warmer in the winter . .... but notice I said 'little'.=C2- Not unbearable.=C2- I grouse about taxes only because it's wasted by the Gov't. I don't have st ate income tax in FL, but I pay taxes on the following: Federal income tax fuel (1-2 pennies locally plus fed excise tax) county general fund library mosquito control recreational tax=C2- (for parks etc) schools .... actually three different ones, and I don't have kids in school !) fire control law enforcement roads & bridges ..... in addition to the fuel taxes above a water management district that I can't get rid of Fl inland navigation district (the intracoastal is right next door) sebastian inlet district ..... access to the ocean is not too far away environmental endangered lands .... four separate taxes South Brevard recreation district ..... in addition to the rec tax above solid waste collection solid waste disposal stormwater control fee emergency medical service (part of our fire department above!) local water management district ..... and the two others above Which all comes to less than 2% of my property assessed value ..... not a r eal big deal. My Fed taxes, however,=C2- run in the 30% region because I have the incom e to enjoy my high priced hobby.=C2- This does rankle me, because of the waste and bloat of government and the crappy politics that it pays for. Having said all this ..... sorry if I bore you ....=C2- I'm still a whole lot better off than those in a lot of other well-developed countries.=C2 - I still feel fortunate.=C2- However I also feel that there are things that need changing ..... and so I gripe about them.=C2- I doubt if utopi a exists anywhere in my country (USA, if you haven't a foggiest idea of whe re Florida is), but I'm kinda happy where I am.=C2- Now, don't get me wrong .... I don't want y'all to move here .... we have e nough of a problem with 'snowbirds' and hangar space is limited. Now, back to building .... Linn Ian wrote: It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US.=C2-=C2- You should try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid for by what else - taxes) like Haiti.=C2-=C2-=C2- 9% income taxes sou nds like a dream to me.=C2-=C2- Europeans, Canadians and many others re ading these posts must wonder where the average American thinks the highway s, defence, good government and all those other things come from if it's no t from sharing part of what you earn/have earned in the past to pay for it. =C2- Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and wishing the highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in the ER to be se en by a doctor!). == ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:05:35 AM PST US From: "emrath" Subject: Re: RV-List: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes Chuck, I live near Nashville and hanger at KMQY Smyrna TN. Several RV's park there and there a lots in the area close by. Hanger space is a premium however. I can say that TN does not have a state income tax but they do have a Hall Tax that taxes interest and dividends at 6%, but there is a personal exemption and there are lots of types of interest income that are tax exempt (I'm not a tax advisor). Property taxes are lower than other places I've live. I do like the Chattanooga area and 1A3 may be something I should look at! Marty RV-6A just about ready for inspection. Time: 07:14:48 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: Taxes Wooee. Thanks for the invite. Who knows, just might do that. How's taxes, etc., in GA? Chuck _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes Chuck, I live in GA near the TN/NC border and keep my plane at Copperhill, TN (1A3). Beautiful country and close to both Chattanooga and Atlanta. Lots of Florida retirees here with hiking, camping and fly fishing streams everywhere. We have an active EAA Chapter nearby (www.eaa1211.org). Why not visit and stay with us to get a feel for the area. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes David, Thanks so much for your words of wisdom. How right you are about not reducing ones income to avoid taxes. I am recently retired but have numerous modest investments (stocks, real estate, and two airplanes). I received some correspondence from a developer/pilot in Tennessee. TN is 49th in state taxes with Alaska (petroleum rich) being 50th. That is good. My wife and I spent some time in TN two years ago and loved it there. Don't know what it would be like to live there though. Well, we don't have to make a decision immediately, so will continue to gather more info. Again thanks for you words of wisdom. They're greatly appreciated, Chuck _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of d-burton@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes It will make a huge difference what your personal situation is. Are you working? Do you have substantial investments? Income? Own a home? A business? We all pay on average about 42% of our income in taxes each year. (Not income taxes. All taxes in total). Everybody in developed countries does. This comes as a big surprise to most people. You can look at your personal situation and find the best way to maximize your income and minimize your tax obligation. Just be careful that you don't figure out how to pay a tiny amount of tax at the expense of earning a tiny amount of money. What is important at the end of the day is what remains in your pocket... This article was written for retirees but can give you some things to think about and resources to do some additional research on different states: http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/retirementandwills/p45875.asp The other problem is that things don't stay the same forever. My state (Washington) which has the same budget problems most other states do at the moment has looked and the "wealthy" airplane owners who are not paying their "fair share" of taxes and is proposing to add a huge use tax to aircraft this year. Florida (where I have lived twice) is great and I'm considering living there again at least part time has incredibly low taxes. Unfortunately since taxes have been chopped to unsustainable levels, and there is not adequate revenue to support what little government services there are there, at some point in the near future things are likely to change dramatically for the worse. I think finding a place friendly to aviation with good flying weather may drive the decision. DavidB RV6 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N avigator?RV-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:53 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes Well, to preserve this god awful state I want to add my .02 cents worth. . It is cold here 365 days a year, sometimes -45 f. Ugly country, wind b lows every day, natives are not friendly and the mosquitos are the size of grizzly bears. Oh, Did I forget to mention those pesky bears ? And... .... These darn rocks block the view of Idaho too. http://www.alltravelcams.com/viewer_gwc.php?camcategory=GRAND%20TETON %20NATIONAL%20PARK&camname=East%20Gros%20Ventre%20Butte&campic=http: //cams.jacksonholewebcams.com/grandteton/grandteton.jpg&sponsor=ALLJac ksonHole.com&sponsorurl=http://www.AllJacksonHole.com&camwidth=1024& camheight0 Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ---------- Original Message ---------- From: rveighta@comcast.net Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes Linn, I've got a buddy here at Hensley Airpark in NE TN who lives here f rom the 1st of May through October, then returns to his Airpark home in Ft. Meyers, FL. Now that's the best of both worlds. It does get cold her e in winter (our pond froze solid this winter), but winter flying over t he mountains has it's rewards as well; I really enjoyed flying my RV8 ov er the ski resorts early in the AM when the air was crisp and cold - gre at lift - but I have to admit I'm a TN native and love this place. It's not for everyone though, it's small town America, some of the people hav e accents that even I have difficulty understanding and the Ammenities a ren't on par with CA, DE, NJ or some of the other places I've lived, but it's HOME. And those mtn views are fantastic! Walt Shipley (sorry for the ramble, definitely DO NOT ARCHIVE) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linn Walters" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:41:17 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes I've been following this thread with a look into different perspectives. High taxes are one thing ...... but the aesthetics are also important as Ian alluded to. I live in FL. It's so flat that it must have been i roned when it was installed. But I like mountains! What am I doing in FL??? Well, for 95% of the time I can fly on any day of the week. Sure , we have thunderstorms, hurricanes and tornadoes, but they don't stick around for weeks at a time. It could be a little cooler in the summer, little less humidity, or a little warmer in the winter ..... but notice I said 'little'. Not unbearable. I grouse about taxes only because it's wasted by the Gov't. I don't have state income tax in FL, but I pay taxes on the following: Federal income tax fuel (1-2 pennies locally plus fed excise tax) county general fund library mosquito control recreational tax (for parks etc) schools .... actually three different ones, and I don't have kids in sch ool!) fire control law enforcement roads & bridges ..... in addition to the fuel taxes above a water management district that I can't get rid of Fl inland navigation district (the intracoastal is right next door) sebastian inlet district ..... access to the ocean is not too far away environmental endangered lands .... four separate taxes South Brevard recreation district ..... in addition to the rec tax above solid waste collection solid waste disposal stormwater control fee emergency medical service (part of our fire department above!) local water management district ..... and the two others above Which all comes to less than 2% of my property assessed value ..... not a real big deal. My Fed taxes, however, run in the 30% region because I have the income to enjoy my high priced hobby. This does rankle me, because of the wast e and bloat of government and the crappy politics that it pays for. Having said all this ..... sorry if I bore you .... I'm still a whole l ot better off than those in a lot of other well-developed countries. I still feel fortunate. However I also feel that there are things that ne ed changing ..... and so I gripe about them. I doubt if utopia exists a nywhere in my country (USA, if you haven't a foggiest idea of where Flor ida is), but I'm kinda happy where I am. Now, don't get me wrong .... I don't want y'all to move here .... we hav e enough of a problem with 'snowbirds' and hangar space is limited. Now, back to building .... Linn Ian wrote: It's amazing how taxes are considered 100% negative in the US. You sho uld try living in a place that has very little infrastructure (paid for by what else - taxes) like Haiti. 9% income taxes sounds like a dream to me. Europeans, Canadians and many others reading these posts must wonder where the average American thinks the highways, defence, good gov ernment and all those other things come from if it's not from sharing pa rt of what you earn/have earned in the past to pay for it. Ian Brown, Bromont, Quebec (Still paying tax on my pension, and wishing the highways were better and that it didn't take five hours in the ER to be seen by a doctor!). t=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listp://forums.matronic ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ======================== ____________________________________________________________ Criminal Lawyer Criminal Lawyers - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/c?cp=L4u9Pe2RPN-Zsnj8XDb4O wAAJ1HOX6m7NtFYSFKPhB8gxgzbAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAiF gAAAAA ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:59:05 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes OK, I can't resist. I see a lot of folks on here talking taxes who I KNOW worked for companies that got government contracts... otherrs who I know are living off a pension after working for government for 20 years (I don't so I'm still working), or got an education on the GI bill -- before which, by the way, it was unusual to own a home. The airports we fly in and out of ? Taxes. Look, I'm not that interested in getting into a stupid talk radio discussion on taxes. I'm sure ther'es plenty of waste in government spending just as there is in family spending. But our food supply is healthy, we can get anywhere we want in the world on a great infrastructure, our kids aren't crapping in the streets because there's no running water or sewer, the quality of life via parks and trails is outstanding, I got educated thanks to people who paid their taxes who realized that me being educated and productive was a valuable investment. We've got it good. Stop whining like a bunch of spoiled babies and come over and help me on the cowling. ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:11 PM PST US From: "Bret Smith" Subject: Re: RV-List: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes Speaking of living in TN, for those looking for hangar space, we are building 10 T-hangars this Summer and have plans to build another 10 next Summer (2011). 1A3 is the place to be. Let me know and I will put your name on the List. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "emrath" Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:25 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes > > Chuck, > I live near Nashville and hanger at KMQY Smyrna TN. Several RV's park > there > and there a lots in the area close by. Hanger space is a premium however. > I > can say that TN does not have a state income tax but they do have a Hall > Tax > that taxes interest and dividends at 6%, but there is a personal exemption > and there are lots of types of interest income that are tax exempt (I'm > not > a tax advisor). Property taxes are lower than other places I've live. I > do like the Chattanooga area and 1A3 may be something I should look at! > Marty RV-6A just about ready for inspection. > > Time: 07:14:48 PM PST US > From: "Chuck Weyant" > Subject: Taxes > > Wooee. Thanks for the invite. Who knows, just might do that. How's > taxes, > etc., in GA? > > Chuck > > > _____ > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:16 PM > Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes > > > Chuck, > > > I live in GA near the TN/NC border and keep my plane at Copperhill, > TN > (1A3). Beautiful country and close to both Chattanooga and Atlanta. > Lots > of Florida retirees here with hiking, camping and fly fishing streams > everywhere. We have an active EAA Chapter nearby (www.eaa1211.org). > Why > not visit and stay with us to get a feel for the area. > > > Bret Smith > > RV-9A N16BL > > Blue Ridge, GA > > www.FlightInnovations.com > > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:52 PM > Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes > > > David, > > Thanks so much for your words of wisdom. How right you are about not > reducing ones income to avoid taxes. I am recently retired but have > numerous modest investments (stocks, real estate, and two airplanes). > I > received some correspondence from a developer/pilot in Tennessee. TN > is > 49th in state taxes with Alaska (petroleum rich) being 50th. That is > good. > > > My wife and I spent some time in TN two years ago and loved it there. > Don't > know what it would be like to live there though. Well, we don't have > to > make a decision immediately, so will continue to gather more info. > > > Again thanks for you words of wisdom. They're greatly appreciated, > > Chuck > > > _____ > > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > d-burton@comcast.net > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:43 AM > Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes > > > It will make a huge difference what your personal situation is. Are > you > working? Do you have substantial investments? Income? Own a home? > A > business? > > We all pay on average about 42% of our income in taxes each year. > (Not > income taxes. All taxes in total). Everybody in developed countries > does. > This comes as a big surprise to most people. > > You can look at your personal situation and find the best way to > maximize > your income and minimize your tax obligation. Just be careful that > you > don't figure out how to pay a tiny amount of tax at the expense of > earning a > tiny amount of money. What is important at the end of the day is > what > remains in your pocket... > > This article was written for retirees but can give you some things to > think > about and resources to do some additional research on different > states: > > http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/retirementandwills/p45875.asp > > The other problem is that things don't stay the same forever. My > state > (Washington) which has the same budget problems most other states do > at the > moment has looked and the "wealthy" airplane owners who are not > paying > their > "fair share" of taxes and is proposing to add a huge use tax to > aircraft > this year. > > Florida (where I have lived twice) is great and I'm considering > living > there > again at least part time has incredibly low taxes. Unfortunately > since > taxes have been chopped to unsustainable levels, and there is not > adequate > revenue to support what little government services there are there, > at > some > point in the near future things are likely to change dramatically for > the > worse. > > I think finding a place friendly to aviation with good flying weather > may > drive the decision. > > DavidB > RV6 > > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/N > avigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > > http://forums.matronics.com > > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:08:11 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes So here's what I'll do for you Bob. I'll let you pay my taxes, then you'll feel twice as warm and fuzzy and I'll get to stay right here in California. Love ya.honest. Chuck Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:29 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes OK, I can't resist. I see a lot of folks on here talking taxes who I KNOW worked for companies that got government contracts... otherrs who I know are living off a pension after working for government for 20 years (I don't so I'm still working), or got an education on the GI bill -- before which, by the way, it was unusual to own a home. The airports we fly in and out of ? Taxes. Look, I'm not that interested in getting into a stupid talk radio discussion on taxes. I'm sure ther'es plenty of waste in government spending just as there is in family spending. But our food supply is healthy, we can get anywhere we want in the world on a great infrastructure, our kids aren't crapping in the streets because there's no running water or sewer, the quality of life via parks and trails is outstanding, I got educated thanks to people who paid their taxes who realized that me being educated and productive was a valuable investment. We've got it good. Stop whining like a bunch of spoiled babies and come over and help me on the cowling. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:57:51 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: RE: RV-List: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes Emrath, Thanks so much for the info. TN is sounding better all the time. Chuck Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of emrath Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:26 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: TaxesTaxesTaxesTaxes Chuck, I live near Nashville and hanger at KMQY Smyrna TN. Several RV's park there and there a lots in the area close by. Hanger space is a premium however. I can say that TN does not have a state income tax but they do have a Hall Tax that taxes interest and dividends at 6%, but there is a personal exemption and there are lots of types of interest income that are tax exempt (I'm not a tax advisor). Property taxes are lower than other places I've live. I do like the Chattanooga area and 1A3 may be something I should look at! Marty RV-6A just about ready for inspection. Time: 07:14:48 PM PST US From: "Chuck Weyant" Subject: Taxes Wooee. Thanks for the invite. Who knows, just might do that. How's taxes, etc., in GA? Chuck _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bret Smith Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes Chuck, I live in GA near the TN/NC border and keep my plane at Copperhill, TN (1A3). Beautiful country and close to both Chattanooga and Atlanta. Lots of Florida retirees here with hiking, camping and fly fishing streams everywhere. We have an active EAA Chapter nearby (www.eaa1211.org). Why not visit and stay with us to get a feel for the area. Bret Smith RV-9A N16BL Blue Ridge, GA www.FlightInnovations.com From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Weyant Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 6:52 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Taxes David, Thanks so much for your words of wisdom. How right you are about not reducing ones income to avoid taxes. I am recently retired but have numerous modest investments (stocks, real estate, and two airplanes). I received some correspondence from a developer/pilot in Tennessee. TN is 49th in state taxes with Alaska (petroleum rich) being 50th. That is good. My wife and I spent some time in TN two years ago and loved it there. Don't know what it would be like to live there though. Well, we don't have to make a decision immediately, so will continue to gather more info. Again thanks for you words of wisdom. They're greatly appreciated, Chuck _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of d-burton@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:43 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Taxes It will make a huge difference what your personal situation is. Are you working? Do you have substantial investments? Income? Own a home? A business? We all pay on average about 42% of our income in taxes each year. (Not income taxes. All taxes in total). Everybody in developed countries does. This comes as a big surprise to most people. You can look at your personal situation and find the best way to maximize your income and minimize your tax obligation. Just be careful that you don't figure out how to pay a tiny amount of tax at the expense of earning a tiny amount of money. What is important at the end of the day is what remains in your pocket... This article was written for retirees but can give you some things to think about and resources to do some additional research on different states: http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/retirementandwills/p45875.asp The other problem is that things don't stay the same forever. My state (Washington) which has the same budget problems most other states do at the moment has looked and the "wealthy" airplane owners who are not paying their "fair share" of taxes and is proposing to add a huge use tax to aircraft this year. Florida (where I have lived twice) is great and I'm considering living there again at least part time has incredibly low taxes. Unfortunately since taxes have been chopped to unsustainable levels, and there is not adequate revenue to support what little government services there are there, at some point in the near future things are likely to change dramatically for the worse. I think finding a place friendly to aviation with good flying weather may drive the decision. 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