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1. 09:22 AM - 495 (cheathco)
2. 07:12 PM - Carpeting Question (DEAN PSIROPOULOS)
3. 08:12 PM - Re: Carpeting Question (Jeff Orear)
4. 08:40 PM - Re: Carpeting Question (Kyle Boatright)
5. 09:30 PM - Third Taxi Test Video (Brakes Over Heat!)... (Matt Dralle)
6. 11:14 PM - Re: Third Taxi Test Video (Brakes Over Heat!)... (Vanremog@aol.com)
7. 11:40 PM - Re: Carpeting Question (Bobby Hester)
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I hve a late model 296 that I would like to trade in on a good used
495.(would buy outright if price right) I see the 496 went quick. I dont
need the weather. Charles Heathco
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| Subject: | Carpeting Question |
I finally have the upholstery and carpet on order for my RV-6A but it will
take a couple months to get here. In the meantime, since I'd made templates
for everything I decided to take some carpet scraps and make some temporary
pieces to put under my feet and soak up some noise and vibration. I cut the
pieces into 4 strips and they fit snugly between the stiffeners on the
floor. But, since it's only temporary I have NOT fastened them down with
any kind of glue or tape. The carpet doesn't slide around when I get in or
out of the airplane but I haven't flown it this way yet. Am I tempting fate
by not sticking these down. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.
Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Flying and finishing touches
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| Subject: | Re: Carpeting Question |
Dean:
I have an interior done by flighine interiors. It includes some foam
that is placed between the floor stiffeners. What I did was to adhere
the floor carpet to these pieces of foam and then rely on the snug fit
of the foam between the stffeners to keep everthing down on the
floor. Has worked very well in 4 years of flying. I was concerned
about adhering anything to the floor permanently should there ever be
a brake fluid or fuel leak.
Regards,
Jeff Orear
RV6A. N782P
Peshtigo, WI
On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:09 PM, "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net
> wrote:
> >
>
>
> I finally have the upholstery and carpet on order for my RV-6A but
> it will
> take a couple months to get here. In the meantime, since I'd made
> templates
> for everything I decided to take some carpet scraps and make some
> temporary
> pieces to put under my feet and soak up some noise and vibration. I
> cut the
> pieces into 4 strips and they fit snugly between the stiffeners on the
> floor. But, since it's only temporary I have NOT fastened them down
> with
> any kind of glue or tape. The carpet doesn't slide around when I get
> in or
> out of the airplane but I haven't flown it this way yet. Am I
> tempting fate
> by not sticking these down. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Flying and finishing touches
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Carpeting Question |
Dean,
When I installed carpet in my RV about 9.5 years ago, I cut it where it was
more or less a press fit. It was rigid enough to almost snap in place. I
figured it would be nearly impossible for anyone to shift it around. But I
was wrong. Passengers exiting the aircraft tend to push the carpet forward
and bunch it up under the rudder pedals. I recommend a couple of strips of
double sided carpet tape per piece of carpet. Put the tape near the main
spar and the carpet probably won't move for a long time.
Kyle Boatright
----- Original Message -----
From: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:09 PM
Subject: RV-List: Carpeting Question
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
>
> I finally have the upholstery and carpet on order for my RV-6A but it will
> take a couple months to get here. In the meantime, since I'd made
> templates
> for everything I decided to take some carpet scraps and make some
> temporary
> pieces to put under my feet and soak up some noise and vibration. I cut
> the
> pieces into 4 strips and they fit snugly between the stiffeners on the
> floor. But, since it's only temporary I have NOT fastened them down with
> any kind of glue or tape. The carpet doesn't slide around when I get in or
> out of the airplane but I haven't flown it this way yet. Am I tempting
> fate
> by not sticking these down. Anyone have experience with this? Thanks.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Flying and finishing touches
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Third Taxi Test Video (Brakes Over Heat!)... |
On the third taxi test, I headed out to the main runway at Livermore, 25R and ask
the tower for a high-speed taxi test with no take off. It was approved as
requested and went great. There was about a 15-20 knot head wind at about 270
which made it even more fun. The RV-8 handled great and it was definitely ready
to take off. I only got to about 1/3 power and it would have taken off with
about 1/2 throttle probably. Oh my... What will FULL throttle be like!? Now
that's exciting! Be sure to watch the Part 2 of this video because as the
music gets more intense, so does the testing!
Third Taxi Test - Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8?v=pnz31m6aVEQ
After the taxi back on the regular taxi way, the tower offered to let me run back
the other direction on the runway! I wasn't sure that's really what he was
suggesting and I had to verify that's what he really meant. It was pretty cool
and saved a lot of time. With the 15-20 knot tailwind, though, I probably would
have been better off just using the taxi way. Now you'll notice the music
is getting a bit more intense. Be sure to watch Part 3 because that's where this
taxi test REALLY get's interesting...
Third Taxi Test - Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8?v=5zheOkSHfX4
As you'll see in that part of the third taxi test, I lost the brakes. As I'm taxing
off the runway I noticed that there was smoke coming out of both the left
and right sides. At the time, I really wasn't sure what caused the brakes to
get so hot. But, after watching the video a couple of time and recalling back
to what I was doing, I'm positive that I was dragging the brakes on those down-wind
trips. I even remember thinking at one point, "oh, I'm riding the brakes".
Doesn't seem like they should get so hot as to start smoking, but perhaps
it was a combination of being new, over worked, and a bit of brake fluid leaking
out and hitting the discs. Anyway, my comment at the end of the video is
kind of funny. It wasn't at the time, mind you... :-)
Third Taxi Test - Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8?v=57W-O8905cg
After I hosed the wheel pants and brakes down and got things cooled off and no
longer smoking, I had to push the plane back to the hangar from the wash rack,
which isn't too far, but still kind of a long ways at the end of a day. As I
was pushing it back I noticed that there was brake fluid leaking out of the right
brake. I pushed the plane about 1/2 the way into the hangar and took the
wheel pants off. Once I got the leaks stopped, I pushed the plane the rest of
the way in. It was kind of a demoralizing sight to see the brake calipers smoked
like that, but it could have been a lot worse.
A word to the wise - STAY OFF THE BRAKES!!! Its really easy to drag them and this
video is a document to what can happen.
Third Taxi Test - Epilogue
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8?v=JlQjRWnbO2c
The brakes were pretty toasted as were the sidewalls of the tires. There were
little bits of rubber coming off the sidewall around the wheel. The brake pads
definitely looked worn down some compared to the set I have on the partially
completed RV-4. So in the interest of not holding up the test flight progress,
I opted to use the wheels, brakes, and tires from the RV-4 project to replace
the smoked components on the RV-8. I'll order a new set for the RV-4 later.
I spent the day jacking up the plane and swapping pieces. I also took the opportunity
to remove the right master cylinder and fix the pesky high-pressure side
leak. Here's a video of the wheels, brakes, and tires all replaced and ready
for testing.
Third Taxi Test - Post Epilogue
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8?v=dL92Hwi0xnE
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: Test Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Third Taxi Test Video (Brakes Over Heat!)... |
Matt-
Since you're a smart guy, and you monitor the lists here, you of course
know that this could have burned your aircraft to the ground. We have had
this discussion before and you must certainly aware that you should be using
Viton o-rings in the calipers and MIL-PRF-83282 fluid (not MIL-H-5606) if
you wish to be safe over the long haul (particularly when trying to hold back
all of that horsepower you have on the firewall). The rest of you can do
as you wish, but be advised.
-GV
In a message dated 4/27/2010 9:33:19 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
dralle@matronics.com writes:
A word to the wise - STAY OFF THE BRAKES!!! Its really easy to drag them
and this video is a document to what can happen.
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| Subject: | Re: Carpeting Question |
My Classic Aero Carpet has the sound proofing foam glued to the back of
it and it fits tight and no glue or velcro is needed.
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