---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 07/03/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:24 AM - Re: Highest Quality...? (Matt Dralle) 2. 10:01 AM - Re: Re: Highest Quality...? (Scott) 3. 10:02 AM - Re: Update On RV-8 Princeton Fuel Probe Installation... (Matt Dralle) 4. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: Highest Quality...? (Bobby Hester) 5. 02:02 PM - Re: Re: Update On RV-8 Princeton Fuel Probe Installation... (j. davis) 6. 04:22 PM - airworthiness (thomas sargent) 7. 05:48 PM - Jeppesen Database Updates (Pete & Delee) 8. 07:19 PM - Re: airworthiness (Bill Boyd) 9. 07:19 PM - Re: airworthiness (Fisher Paul A.) 10. 07:47 PM - Re: Jeppesen Database Updates (Chris Hand) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:45 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Re: Highest Quality...? Well, if I'd of been paying attention, I could have rotated them and easily gotten another 70 from them probably. But, I just got the new Goodyear Flight Custom III's installed last night and then went out and shot some landings. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! The GY's are 10 times the quality of the stock one's. The sidewalls are definately far more rigid and the tread is thicker. The rubber seems a lot "harder" too. I noticed that the old ones had a "flat spot" when I was removing them. I just thought "rough" was the way the RV's were suppose to ride. Now the plane really rolls smoothly. It also seems to track down the runway much better. Wheel landings are a thing of beauty, and I've almost got that three-point licked. I was happy to note that my brakes barely look used! Since the brake incident and subsequent replacement of the wheels and brakes, I have been ever vigilant about staying off the brakes. I try to taxi like I don't have brakes. Guess its paying off! Yeah, I've been flying a LOT! I just can't seem to not head out to the hanger after work and fly around. My Chevron av-gas bill was $2700 last month! I just can't believe how nice the RV-8 is to fly. What a joy. For those that are still slaving away, *keep at it*! It is worth all of the time you invest in it... Best, Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor... At 02:42 PM 6/28/2010 Monday, you wrote: >Matt, >The Van's tires are worn out after only 70 hours? And how in the world did you put 70 hours on it already? You have been doing some serious flying! I've got 84 on my originals and I've still got another 20-30 hours left in them. But, they are not high quality tires. >I'm ready to order new tires and tubes so I've talked to a number of other RV owners asking their advice. I've always liked Michelin, but the RV guys near me all recommend using the Goodyear Flight Custom III. They tell me the sidewalls are much stiffer and thread is deeper and overall the tire is longer lasting. Also, many local guys recommended the Michelin Airstop tubes. They tell me they have no air leaks with the Airstop tubes. With my original tubes, I have to air up the tires every 6 weeks. The Goodyears have kevlar in the sidewalls which apparently stiffens the sidewall. >So, I'm ordering a set of GY tires and Michelin tubes. >FYI. >Stan Sutterfield >www.rv-8a.net >Its almost time for a new set of tires on the 'ol RV-8. What are the very best >tires for the RV wheels? I'd like something that will last a little longer than >70 hours. > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:56 AM PST US From: Scott Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Highest Quality...? Man, I better sell my -4 kit. I won't be able to afford to fly it :( do not archive Matt Dralle wrote: > > Yeah, I've been flying a LOT! I just can't seem to not head out to the hanger after work and fly around. My Chevron av-gas bill was $2700 last month! I just can't believe how nice the RV-8 is to fly. What a joy. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:42 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Re: Update On RV-8 Princeton Fuel Probe Installation... At 05:40 PM 6/28/2010 Monday, you wrote: > >On 06/21/2010 12:00 AM, Matt Dralle wrote: >>All that >>matters at this point is that they are both working and are exceptionally accurate in >>the 15-0 gallon range which is where it counts. > >...and you just *might* owe Princeton an apology for what I *seem* to remember as some pretty heavy bad-mouthing in your last few posts. But w/o actually going back into the archives, I may be wrong... > >Regards, J. > >Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb >restoring the Johnston Special >http://cleco.ca I might have been a little rough on Princeton initially, but considering how annoyed I was at that prospect of having to replace them, I think I held back pretty well: :-) Reference: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=69954 and http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=69999 and http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=71281 Just having to remove them to adjust the probe tip so that it wasn't touching the bottom of the tank was a major ordeal. Since in a QB you can see into the tank when installing them, they should be pre-bent to make sure they don't touch or have an insulative piece of plastic on the tip. And why the first three calibrations didn't take is completely baffling. I almost didn't try to calibrate again for the forth time, but I was just so demoralized at having to remove them and try to fit floats in, that I just gave the calibration one more try. Whew, glad I did. Anyway, I wanted to clear the air and that's why I posted my extended pirep on the successful calibration finally. I sent the same report to Princeton, GRT, and the GRT-EFIS forum as well. I've got about 20 hours on them now since the successful calibration. They remain about as accurate as I reported. They still give kind of wonky readings when the tanks are full sometimes. The lower the fuel level, the more accurate they seem to be. That being said, based on comparisons with the FuelChec DX flow meter, I wouldn't trust the level probes more than about +- 1.5 gallons or so (within 3 gallons of actual). But, that's good enough I suppose. I still rely on the flow meter's fuel "remanding" mostly as it has proved to be reliable to within .5 gallons or better. BTW, the FuelChec DX has a really cool feature called the "Switch Tanks" warning. You set it to the amount of fuel burn you want to keep your tank levels balanced. For example, I have mine sent to 3 gallons. Every three gallons of fuel burn, the FuelChec flashes a warning indicating its time to switch tanks. I've found this really keeps the fuel balanced across the tanks. Its also an excellent reminder every 20 minutes or so to check the fuel levels. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor... ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:33:34 AM PST US From: Bobby Hester Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Highest Quality...? High octane unleaded without ethanol in one tank, 100 LL is the other, is the way to go. Take off and land on the good stuff, fly on the cheap stuff :-) ---- Surfing the web from Hopkinsville, KY Visit my web site: http://home.newwavecomm.net/bobbyhester/RVSite.htm Scott wrote: > > Man, I better sell my -4 kit. I won't be able to afford to fly it :( > > do not archive > > > Matt Dralle wrote: >> >> Yeah, I've been flying a LOT! I just can't seem to not head out to >> the hanger after work and fly around. My Chevron av-gas bill was >> $2700 last month! I just can't believe how nice the RV-8 is to fly. >> What a joy. >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:02:03 PM PST US From: "j. davis" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Update On RV-8 Princeton Fuel Probe Installation... On 07/03/2010 12:59 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: > > I might have been a little rough on Princeton initially, but considering how annoyed I > was at that prospect of having to replace them, I think I held back pretty well: :-) Hey, Matt... Glad it all worked out for you! I've been extremely happy with Princeton senders in two home-builts now, was kind of scratching my head at your (and a couple of other's) posts expressing unhappiness with them. And believe me, I totally understand your ummm... disappointment at the prospect of replacing them! Again, glad all's well. -- Regards, J. Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb restoring the Johnston Special http://cleco.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Davis, M.Sc. | (computer science) | | *NIX consulting, SysAdmin | email: jd at lawsonimaging.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ I made wine out of raisins so I wouldn't have to wait for it to age. --- Steven Wright ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:30 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: airworthiness From: thomas sargent N811WT got its airworthiness certificate today. It only took 12 years. The DAR was actually pretty throrough. He made me start up the engine and run it for 5 minutes so he could satisfy himself that the engine started easily and the engine instruments work. Surprised me. Anyway, I'm legal. Now I have to call the test pilot and get a few hours of dual and I'm good to go. Woo Hoo! -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:18 PM PST US From: Pete & Delee <4680@att.net> Subject: RV-List: Jeppesen Database Updates Has anyone found a current Jeppesen Database Update for a Lowrance 2000C? ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:12 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: airworthiness From: Bill Boyd Congrats, Tom. Just rolled past 777 hours on the tach here... Bill Boyd On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 7:17 PM, thomas sargent wrote: > N811WT got its airworthiness certificate today. It only took 12 years. > > The DAR was actually pretty throrough. He made me start up the engine and > run it for 5 minutes so he could satisfy himself that the engine started > easily and the engine instruments work. Surprised me. Anyway, I'm legal. > Now I have to call the test pilot and get a few hours of dual and I'm good > to go. Woo Hoo! > > -- > Tom Sargent, RV-6A > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:14 PM PST US From: "Fisher Paul A." Subject: RE: RV-List: airworthiness Woo Hoo indeed! CONGRATULATIONS TOM! Welcome to the club. You're going to love it! Paul A. Fisher RV-7A N18PF - ~100 hours in 11 months. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 18:17 Subject: RV-List: airworthiness N811WT got its airworthiness certificate today. It only took 12 years. The DAR was actually pretty throrough. He made me start up the engine and run it for 5 minutes so he could satisfy himself that the engine started easily and the engine instruments work. Surprised me. Anyway, I'm legal. Now I have to call the test pilot and get a few hours of dual and I'm good to go. Woo Hoo! -- Tom Sargent, RV-6A ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:11 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Jeppesen Database Updates From: Chris Hand I updated mine (2000C) a few months ago off the lei-extras web site. Was $35 for the one time update and the instructions are on the web site. Chris On Jul 3, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Pete & Delee <4680@att.net> wrote: > > Has anyone found a current Jeppesen Database Update for a Lowrance 2000C? > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.