---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/05/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:05 AM - Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Don) 2. 12:14 AM - Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Skylor Piper) 3. 04:13 AM - Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Rick Galati) 4. 06:05 AM - Re: Kitlog Pro (Ralph & Maria Finch) 5. 06:27 AM - Re: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Larry Bowen) 6. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (RV6 Flyer) 7. 03:24 PM - Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Paul Rice) 8. 05:41 PM - Re: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Kyle Boatright) 9. 05:55 PM - Re: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... (Linn Walters) 10. 06:37 PM - Re: Kitlog Pro (PaulR) 11. 07:35 PM - Re: For Sale: Hartzell extended hub prop, Precision fuel injection, front induction sump (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:16 AM PST US From: "Don" Subject: RE: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Matt, Blow up a balloon and tape it to the inside of the wheelpant. Push the amount you need thru the hole and tape it in place. Buile the blister over the balloon and when finished pop the balloon and remove. Much faster and easier than clay. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 4:24 PM Subject: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... I'm happy to report that my second wheel pant installation on the RV-8 is coming out very nice. With the Grove gear (I guess), I'm finding that I have to add a large cutout to clear the rear brake caliper. I didn't do this on the first set and found that it put undue stress on the whole pant assembly. Now I just have to figure out how to make a "blister" to cover it. Anyone know of a premade fiberglass blister about 2.25" wide that I could just epoxy to the pant? Anyway, here's my real question. Has anyone used these little doors on the sides of their RV wheelpants to access the valve stem for checking the pressure? Drilling a 1" hole sounds like just the right amount of work to me at this point... http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php .. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:14:03 AM PST US From: Skylor Piper Subject: Re: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Matt, Even with the stock Van's gear legs I had to make a "blister" to clear the brake caliper. I simply formed the blister on top of the wheel pants with modeling clay, glassed over the clay, the ground out the original pant material and clay with a die grinder. Voil, caliper clearance. As far as the valve stem goes, I just used Michelin airstop tubes that seem to hold air pressure very well. Your mileage may vary. Skylor RV-8 Just Completed Phase 1 Sent from my iPhone. On Jul 4, 2010, at 7:22 PM, rv6n@optonline.net wrote: > It is very easy to make your own blister. Cover the surrounding area with clear packing tape or electric tape first, pack modeling clay or play-do over the area you want the blister and shape it with a knife, spoon or spatula, lay it over with the fiberglass and let it harden. Peel the new blister off, clean out the clay and now glass the blister in place where it belongs. It will take less time than waiting for something off the shelf to be found. > > As for access to the valve stem, drill the hole and use a plastic or metal hole plug available at your local hardware store. > > Bob Bales > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Matt Dralle > Date: Sunday, July 4, 2010 8:36 pm > Subject: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... > To: rv-list@matronics.com, rv7-list@matronics.com, rv8-list@matronics.com > > > > > I'm happy to report that my second wheel pant installation on > > the RV-8 is coming out very nice. With the Grove gear (I > > guess), I'm finding that I have to add a large cutout to clear > > the rear brake caliper. I didn't do this on the first set and > > found that it put undue stress on the whole pant assembly. Now > > I just have to figure out how to make a "blister" to cover it. > > Anyone know of a premade fiberglass blister about 2.25" wide > > that I could just epoxy to the pant? > > > > Anyway, here's my real question. Has anyone used these little > > doors on the sides of their RV wheelpants to access the valve > > stem for checking the pressure? Drilling a 1" hole sounds like > > just the right amount of work to me at this point... > > > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php > > > > . > > > > Matt Dralle > > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog > > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > > Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor! > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:56 AM PST US From: Rick Galati Subject: RV-List: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... I installed and use camloc doors and they work as advertised. It is a clean installation, close tight and look professional. I purchased mine from B&B, a perennial vendor at the FlyMart for either $5 or $7.50 each. The only problem is you must find and have the tire valve lined up correctly with the opening in order to insert the valve extension but other than than, sure saves a lot of time because you don't have to remove a wheel pant just to add air to the tire. It is best to make some sort of permanent mark on the tire for that reason. I much prefer a genuine aircraft part to cheesy and common SS plugs available at hardware and big box stores best used to do what they were designed to do...plug open holes in commercial and residential electric boxes. Personal opinion, YMMV. Rick Galati RV6A N307R RV-8 N308R ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:05:35 AM PST US From: "Ralph & Maria Finch" Subject: RE: RV-List: Kitlog Pro Paul, sounds like a firewall problem. Check settings in Windows Firewall: Start button -> Control Panel -> Windows Firewall I use Windows 7 Home Premium and use Kitlog with no problems. Ralph Finch Davis, California RV-9A QB-SA __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5251 (20100704) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:57 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... From: Larry Bowen I did the same. Worked great. http://blog.bowenaero.com/?p=29 __ Larry Bowen Larry@BowenAero.com http://BowenAero.com On Jul 5, 2010 7:17 AM, "Rick Galati" wrote: I installed and use camloc doors and they work as advertised. It is a clean installation, close tight and look professional. I purchased mine from B&B, a perennial vendor at the FlyMart for either $5 or $7.50 each. The only problem is you must find and have the tire valve lined up correctly with the opening in order to insert the valve extension but other than than, sure saves a lot of time because you don't have to remove a wheel pant just to add air to the tire. It is best to make some sort of permanent mark on the tire for that reason. I much prefer a genuine aircraft part to cheesy and common SS plugs available at hardware and big box stores best used to do what they were designed to do...plug open holes in commercial and residential electric boxes. Personal opinion, YMMV. Rick Galati RV6A N307R RV-8 N308R ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:28 AM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Matt: Save your money=2C a little weight=2C and time on making access to air the tires. Just remove the front half of the wheel pant. This allow you access to INSPECT the brakes every time you air the tires. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C382+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:53 PM PST US From: Paul Rice Subject: RE: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Matt=2C I have them on my 8=2C the work=2C but it really is not enough room to see what you are doing. A more important thing to note is that the valve exten sion I have got cross threaded part way on and air started to leak out and I couldn't get it off. The wheel pant contacted the ground as the tire got lower and cracked out one of the mounting holes. Now I just remove the fr ont half of the pant to add air. Good Luck=2C Paul > From: dsvs@ca.rr.com > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... > Date: Sun=2C 4 Jul 2010 23:52:16 -0700 > > > Matt=2C > I bought a set. Threw them in the trash. They are cheep flimsy pieces of > crap that do not fully close nor ever close the same way. Always out of > alignment. Plastic or metel plugs work much better and are very cheep. > :owes of hpme depot XA department has them. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Sunday=2C July 04=2C 2010 4:24 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com=3B rv7-list@matronics.com=3B rv8-list@matronics .com > Subject: RV-List: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... > > > I'm happy to report that my second wheel pant installation on the RV-8 is > coming out very nice. With the Grove gear (I guess)=2C I'm finding that I > have to add a large cutout to clear the rear brake caliper. I didn't do > this on the first set and found that it put undue stress on the whole pan t > assembly. Now I just have to figure out how to make a "blister" to cover > it. Anyone know of a premade fiberglass blister about 2.25" wide that I > could just epoxy to the pant? > > Anyway=2C here's my real question. Has anyone used these little doors on the > sides of their RV wheelpants to access the valve stem for checking the > pressure? Drilling a 1" hole sounds like just the right amount of work to > me at this point... > > http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php > > . > > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Blog > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor! > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:23 PM PST US From: "Kyle Boatright" Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Matt, The easy solution is to use 7/8" or 1" snap plugs from the electrical section of your local hardware store. They come in plastic or steel, and cost ~$1.00 ea, so if you lose one, you can replace it for nearly nothing. If you want, you can even paint the steel ones, although they are polished when you get 'em. They just snap in and out, so you don't have to rivet anything to the wheel pant and worry about the rivets working in the fiberglass over time. IIRC, the distance from the wheel axle to the air valve is ~2", but you should check that before you go drilling any holes. Kyle Boatright ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:55:34 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Wheelpants Part Duex - Air Access Door & Misc... Kyle Boatright wrote: > Matt, > > The easy solution is to use 7/8" or 1" snap plugs from the electrical > section of your local hardware store. They come in plastic or steel, > and cost ~$1.00 ea, so if you lose one, you can replace it for nearly > nothing. If you want, you can even paint the steel ones, although they > are polished when you get 'em. They just snap in and out, so you > don't have to rivet anything to the wheel pant and worry about the > rivets working in the fiberglass over time. But you do have to worry about the goof plugs tearing up that hole in the fiberglass. My Pitts has plugs in the wings where you access the flying/landing wires ..... kinda like a inspection plate but about 1" dia or so with a screw in the middle to clamp the plug down. It'll be what I use. I put the 90 degree stem tubes in and will use the extension to air 'em up. Linn > > IIRC, the distance from the wheel axle to the air valve is ~2", but > you should check that before you go drilling any holes. > > Kyle Boatright > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:37:43 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Kitlog Pro From: "PaulR" So Ralph, What should the firewall settings be? Remember, I'm not to much of an IT guy. I still believe in phones with cords connected to them. Thanks Paul -------- Paul Rose N417PR (res) RV-9A Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=303863#303863 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:21 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: RV-List: Re: For Sale: Hartzell extended hub prop, Precision fuel injection, front induction sump On 7/4/2010 11:15 PM, Charlie England wrote: > I have for sale a nearly new Hartzell HC-M2YR-1BF extended hub prop. > Also available, a used governor & high pressure line for this prop. > This is the prop that fit's James' 'long' cowl without the need for an > extension. The prop was installed new on a Mustang II, and removed > when the builder retired the airframe with around 100 hrs on the prop > (he didn't want to worry about liability when he quit flying the plane). > > I also have available a sump & intake tubes for a parallel valve O-360 > that is set up for a forward facing servo. It's a sump from an A-1x > series engine that originally had a rear induction, modified by a > certified engine shop for a forward facing injector. The sump & intake > tubes will fit an unmodified Rv-x motor mount (unlike the 'C' series > sumps). The servo mount position appears to be within fractions of an > inch of the OEM Lyc forward facing servo, based on comparing pics of > the OEM part to this one. > > Additionally, I have a Precision EX5VA1 fuel injection system, > complete from the firewall to the heads, including the flex lines with > firesleeve, high pressure pump, servo, distribution block, injector > lines, and injectors. This system came off an RV-7 with less than 10 > hours (wrecked). This system is 'as new', if it was still in the > packing, you couldn't tell it had ever been installed. > > If you're interested in any of these items, email me or give me a call > at 601-879-9596 & we can discuss price (prices will be very reasonable). > > Thanks, > > Charlie Correction: the prop's model number is HC-M2YR-1BF. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.