---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 08/05/10: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:50 AM - Re: Airventure 2010 Video (John Bright) 2. 08:51 AM - Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Wade Roe) 3. 09:24 AM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Jerry Springer) 4. 09:39 AM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Bill Boyd) 5. 09:45 AM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Fisher Paul A.) 6. 10:03 AM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Dale Ensing) 7. 12:04 PM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Ralph E. Capen) 8. 12:43 PM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Gene Lee) 9. 02:08 PM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (machineman) 10. 02:21 PM - Re: Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 (Linn Walters) 11. 04:50 PM - Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 () 12. 06:10 PM - Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept (Robin Marks) 13. 06:25 PM - Re: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept (Charlie England) 14. 07:49 PM - Re: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept (Les Kearney) 15. 08:11 PM - Re: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:50:13 AM PST US From: John Bright Subject: Re: RV-List: Airventure 2010 Video ding-dang youtube safety mode won't stay off so i can't watch it. Thanks, John Bright ----- Original Message ---- From: Mr.Serious Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 10:54:54 PM Subject: RV-List: Airventure 2010 Video I thought you all might enjoy this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgM2W2vxsbw Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307578#307578 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:51:52 AM PST US From: "Wade Roe" Subject: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best option? Thanks! Wade Roe EAA 557 RV-7 final stages Aeronca 7AC flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:12 AM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 Used a Odyssey from Jan 2003 till middle of 2009 in my RV and never needed a maintainer. Only changed it for a new Odyssey because I needed a new battery for my Harley so bought a new one for the RV-6 and put the old one in my Harley, it is still going strong. Jerry Springer Sent from my IPhone On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:51 AM, "Wade Roe" wrote: > > I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for > the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best > option? > > Thanks! > > Wade Roe > EAA 557 > RV-7 final stages > Aeronca 7AC flying > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 From: Bill Boyd Pretty much my experience, too. I have flogged one Odyssey stone cold dead beyond any hope of recovery (master switch left on for weeks at a time) but all the rest have given me years of airplane service followed by years of lawn tractor duty without a maintainer. Bill Boyd On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Jerry Springer wrote: > > Used a Odyssey from Jan 2003 till middle of 2009 in my RV and never needed > a maintainer. Only changed it for a new Odyssey because I needed a new > battery for my Harley so bought a new one for the RV-6 and put the old one > in my Harley, it is still going strong. > > Jerry Springer > > Sent from my IPhone > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:51 AM, "Wade Roe" wrote: > > > > > I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger > for > > the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best > > option? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Wade Roe > > EAA 557 > > RV-7 final stages > > Aeronca 7AC flying > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:45:41 AM PST US From: "Fisher Paul A." Subject: RE: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I agree with the comment that if you fly often enough, a maintainer probably isn't necessary, but that's not the question you asked. Bob on the Aeroelectric list recommends the Schumacher 1562A. It's about $20 from Walmart. It's something like 1.5 amps, so it is not a quick charger, but it will lower the voltage once the battery is fully charged. I currently have three of them for various things to keep the batteries charged when the snow flies! Search one the Aeroelctric list here: http://www.matronics.com/search/ Use the keyword "Schumacher" and you'll get lots of hits. - Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wade Roe Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:51 Subject: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best option? Thanks! Wade Roe EAA 557 RV-7 final stages Aeronca 7AC flying ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:48 AM PST US From: "Dale Ensing" Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 My experience is similiar to Jerry's. My Odyssey was purchased in 2004 and still in the RV-6A cranking an O-360 with high compression pistons. I do use a Battery Tender sometimes. Only time I see it charge is when I have had the master on for something while working on the airplane. Dale Ensing ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Springer" Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:21 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 > > Used a Odyssey from Jan 2003 till middle of 2009 in my RV and never needed > a maintainer. Only changed it for a new Odyssey because I needed a new > battery for my Harley so bought a new one for the RV-6 and put the old > one in my Harley, it is still going strong. > > Jerry Springer > > Sent from my IPhone > > On Aug 5, 2010, at 8:51 AM, "Wade Roe" wrote: > >> >> I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger >> for >> the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best >> option? >> >> Thanks! >> >> Wade Roe >> EAA 557 >> RV-7 final stages >> Aeronca 7AC flying >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:58 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 Since I have a Sony AM/FM/CD/MP3 player in my 6A and it draws a little current..... I installed a Battery Hawk in mine. I generally hook it up the night before I plan to fly but have left it disconnected for a week and had no trouble starting my IO360B1F6 with 9.2:1 pistone. -----Original Message----- >From: Wade Roe >Sent: Aug 5, 2010 11:51 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 > > >I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for >the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best >option? > >Thanks! > >Wade Roe >EAA 557 >RV-7 final stages >Aeronca 7AC flying > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:22 PM PST US From: "Gene Lee" Subject: RE: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I have one of these Battery Tender Juniors in my -7. The nice thing about it is that it stops charging and goes into trickle mode automatically when the battery is charged. http://www.amazon.com/Battery-Tender-021-0123-Junior-Charger/dp/B000CITK8S -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 Since I have a Sony AM/FM/CD/MP3 player in my 6A and it draws a little current..... I installed a Battery Hawk in mine. I generally hook it up the night before I plan to fly but have left it disconnected for a week and had no trouble starting my IO360B1F6 with 9.2:1 pistone. -----Original Message----- >From: Wade Roe >Sent: Aug 5, 2010 11:51 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 > > >I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for >the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best >option? > >Thanks! > >Wade Roe >EAA 557 >RV-7 final stages >Aeronca 7AC flying > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:46 PM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 From: "machineman" Has anyone tried a solar charger (the hangar I'm in has no power) http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/ Rich M RV-7 Massachusetts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307693#307693 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:21:18 PM PST US From: Linn Walters Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I have a couple of solar chargers from Harbor freight ...... http://www.harborfreight.com/15-watt-solar-battery-charger-44768.html ..... works fine on the tractors stored in the shed. Linn machineman wrote: > > Has anyone tried a solar charger (the hangar I'm in has no power) > http://www.batterystuff.com/solar-chargers/ > > Rich M > RV-7 > Massachusetts > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=307693#307693 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 04:50:14 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 Fly it lots! John Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wade Roe Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 1:51 AM Subject: RV-List: Battery Maintainer for RV7 I'm looking for recommendations regarding a battery maintainer/charger for the Odyssey battery in my RV7. What has everyone found to be the best option? Thanks! Wade Roe EAA 557 RV-7 final stages Aeronca 7AC flying ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:10:23 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RV-List: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept Having recently had to re-wire and reconfigure some electrical on both side s of my firewall I am convinced there is a simpler (but more expensive) way t o access wires coming through the firewall. My current configuration are a couple of Cannon or Amphenol connectors used as my firewall pass through. I assume most of us have a similar configuration. While this is not too difficult as one is building, changes after flying can be extremely difficult due to all the =93aviation=94 crap in the way. The firewall side can be difficult but the upside down and backwards nature of under panel repairs begs for a better solution. It seem s like a simple service loop on both sides of the panel would be a easy fix. The service loop of 12-18=94 would allow one to remotely mount the connector(s) to a position of better access. Or firewall mounting with a release bracket to give better access to the wires. My ideal setup would be either 36-48 pre-wired jumper lengths. Maybe all on e gauge wire or half one gauge, half smaller gauge wires. A couple of pass through units should be enough to solve most wiring issues. My question is=85 Does this solution already exist or are people doing something else to solve this challenge that I don=92t know about? Robin [image: Firewall-Pass-Through-Service-Loop-Concept.jpg] ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:25:29 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept On 8/5/2010 8:08 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > > Having recently had to re-wire and reconfigure some electrical on both > sides of my firewall I am convinced there is a simpler (but more > expensive) way to access wires coming through the firewall. > > My current configuration are a couple of Cannon or Amphenol connectors > used as my firewall pass through. I assume most of us have a similar > configuration. While this is not too difficult as one is building, > changes after flying can be extremely difficult due to all the > aviation crap in the way. The firewall side can be difficult but the > upside down and backwards nature of under panel repairs begs for a > better solution. It seems like a simple service loop on both sides of > the panel would be a easy fix. The service loop of 12-18 would allow > one to remotely mount the connector(s) to a position of better access. > Or firewall mounting with a release bracket to give better access to > the wires. > > My ideal setup would be either 36-48 pre-wired jumper lengths. Maybe > all one gauge wire or half one gauge, half smaller gauge wires. A > couple of pass through units should be enough to solve most wiring issues. > > My question is Does this solution already exist or are people doing > something else to solve this challenge that I dont know about? > > Robin > Valid concept to ease servicing, but the firewall pass-through connectors could be eliminated. Just use the stainless tube idea (as seen on this list) & run the wire continuous from the engine side to the cockpit side connector. Charlie ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:04 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept From: Les Kearney Robin Keep in mind that the firewall serves to protect you in the diving of an eng ine compartment fire. My guess is that the AMP plug would be gone in seconds and then you would have all sorts of nasties coming through. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2010-08-05, at 7:08 PM, Robin Marks wrote: > Having recently had to re-wire and reconfigure some electrical on both sid es of my firewall I am convinced there is a simpler (but more expensive) way to access wires coming through the firewall. > > My current configuration are a couple of Cannon or Amphenol connectors use d as my firewall pass through. I assume most of us have a similar configurat ion. While this is not too difficult as one is building, changes after flyin g can be extremely difficult due to all the =9Caviation=9D crap i n the way. The firewall side can be difficult but the upside down and backwa rds nature of under panel repairs begs for a better solution. It seems like a simple service loop on both sides of the panel would be a easy fix. The ser vice loop of 12-18=9D would allow one to remotely mount the connector( s) to a position of better access. Or firewall mounting with a release brack et to give better access to the wires. > > My ideal setup would be either 36-48 pre-wired jumper lengths. Maybe all o ne gauge wire or half one gauge, half smaller gauge wires. A couple of pass t hrough units should be enough to solve most wiring issues. > > My question is Does this solution already exist or are people doi ng something else to solve this challenge that I don=99t know about? > > > > Robin > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:11:02 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV-List: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept Les, if that reply is in reference to my concept I don=92t see the function al difference between mine the traditional construction. The firewall is unchanged from most builds, a standard Cannon or Amphenol connection as you r physical pass through. I am just trying to extend the reach of the plugs fo r easier access. Thanks, Robin *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Les Kearney *Sent:* Thursday, August 05, 2010 7:13 PM *To:* rv-list@matronics.com *Subject:* Re: RV-List: Firewall Pass Through w/Service Loop Concept Robin Keep in mind that the firewall serves to protect you in the diving of an engine compartment fire. My guess is that the AMP plug would be gone in seconds and then you would have all sorts of nasties coming through. Cheers Les Sent from my iPhone On 2010-08-05, at 7:08 PM, Robin Marks wrote: Having recently had to re-wire and reconfigure some electrical on both sides of my firewall I am convinced there is a simpler (but more expensive) way to access wires coming through the firewall. My current configuration are a couple of Cannon or Amphenol connectors used as my firewall pass through. I assume most of us have a similar configuration. While this is not too difficult as one is building, changes after flying can be extremely difficult due to all the =93aviation=94 crap in the way. The firewall side can be difficult but the upside down and backwards nature of under panel repairs begs for a better solution. It seem s like a simple service loop on both sides of the panel would be a easy fix. The service loop of 12-18=94 would allow one to remotely mount the connector(s) to a position of better access. Or firewall mounting with a release bracket to give better access to the wires. My ideal setup would be either 36-48 pre-wired jumper lengths. Maybe all on e gauge wire or half one gauge, half smaller gauge wires. A couple of pass through units should be enough to solve most wiring issues. My question is=85 Does this solution already exist or are people doing something else to solve this challenge that I don=92t know about? 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