---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/15/10: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:31 AM - Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! (Matt Dralle) 2. 01:28 PM - positioning right angle AN fittings (j. davis) 3. 03:19 PM - Re: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! (George Tyler) 4. 03:51 PM - Re: positioning right angle AN fittings (Brian Alley) 5. 03:53 PM - Re: Wings, final installation, difficult NAS bolts (Bob Collins) 6. 03:58 PM - Re: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! (Jerry Springer) 7. 05:02 PM - Re: positioning right angle AN fittings (Carl Froehlich) 8. 07:48 PM - Re: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! (Matt Dralle) 9. 07:56 PM - Re: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! (Matt Dralle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:31:08 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just had baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and almost 10,000 miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. Everyday I seem to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to fly in every respect. On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at 7000ft, 22.4" MP / 2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the week I took it to 18,000ft (on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and 202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about a 1300 mile range less reserves. Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its a truly amazing machine! Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work! - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:28:25 PM PST US From: "j. davis" Subject: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings Greetings... just wondering if anyone has any tips on getting right angle fittings both tight, *and* pointing in the right direction? On my oil cooler, I need one fitting pointing straight ahead, and the other straight aft. Naturally, when these [non-swivelling] fittings are tightened up properly, they don't point where I want them to. As it turns out, each one would need to be backed off about 30 degrees, and then it would then seep oil. Fuel Lube isn't sufficient, perhaps Permatex Form-a-Gasket, or something else? Any other ideas? Thanks! -- Regards, J. Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb restoring the Johnston Special http://cleco.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | J. Davis, M.Sc. | (computer science) | | *NIX consulting, SysAdmin | email: jd at lawsonimaging.ca | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to add to it. --- Steven Wright ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:19:26 PM PST US From: "George Tyler" Subject: RE: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! I do not want to suspend belief but I have never seen anything near a 3000 ft per min climb in my -6. What am I doing wrong. BTW very good looking air plane -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 1:18 PM rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just had baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and almost 10,000 miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. Everyday I seem to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to fly in every respect. On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at 7000ft, 22.4" MP / 2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the week I took it to 18,000ft (on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and 202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about a 1300 mile range less reserves. Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its a truly amazing machine! Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work! .. Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor... ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:51:45 PM PST US From: Brian Alley Subject: Re: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings I use Pro-Seal on all pipe threads that carry fuel,oil or hydraulic fluid. The threads are not standard on npt as far as where they begin relative to the angle of the fitting. If both fittings are the same, try swapping them and see where they tighten up. In some cases a pipe tap can be used to cut the threads a little deeper but be very careful as you can go to deep and then the fitting will not tighten up at all. BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES 101 Caroline Circle Hurricane, WV 25526 www.carbonfibercomposites.net 304-562-6800 home 304-395-4932 cell How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck? --- On Sun, 8/15/10, j. davis wrote: > From: j. davis > Subject: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:19 PM > davis" > > Greetings... just wondering if anyone has any tips on > getting right angle fittings both tight, *and* pointing in > the right direction? > > On my oil cooler, I need one fitting pointing straight > ahead, and the other straight aft. > Naturally, when these [non-swivelling] fittings are > tightened up properly, they don't point where I want them > to. As it turns out, each one would need to be backed > off about 30 degrees, and then it would then seep oil. Fuel > Lube isn't sufficient, perhaps Permatex Form-a-Gasket, or > something else? Any other ideas? Thanks! > > -- Regards, J. > > Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb > restoring the Johnston Special > http://cleco.ca > > +-------------------------------------------------------------+ > | (computer science) > | > lawsonimaging.ca | > +-------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to > add to it. > > --- Steven Wright > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:37 PM PST US From: "Bob Collins" Subject: RE: RV-List: Wings, final installation, difficult NAS bolts You have to put the nuts in place before the bolts come through. I use a pair of needle nose vise grips to hold the nut, then as I turned the bolt, the vise grips would jame against the weldment. I torqued the bolt rather than the nut on the bottom row. _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eddy Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 3:39 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Wings, final installation, difficult NAS bolts I had to bend up and grind an open end wrench (buy a cheap one from Harbor Freight) to get to that tight spot. Eddy Fernandez RV 9A 575 hours T.T. On Aug 13, 2010, at 4:10 PM, "Joe & Jan Connell" wrote: Guys, I'm in the final assembly of an RV-9A. Any ideas how to get the nuts on the lower outside NAS bolts? Did anyone remove the lower brake line fitting in the area for better access? I've got a few threads of the NAS bolt exposed beyond the landing gear weldment to gain a little more clearance for the nut. It also looks like I will have to jam a screw driver under the nut to keep it from turning when I tightening it - there is no room for a wrench. Anyone have an access hole on the side of the fuselage - I know this is extreme. Any ideas appreciated... Joe Connell RV-9A N95JJ D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== ========= D======================== ========= ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:58:21 PM PST US From: Jerry Springer Subject: Re: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! That is an exceptional climb rate Matt with your empty weight, but I have never flown behind a IO-390 either.:) beautiful airplane, whens it coming up North? Jerry Matt Dralle wrote: > We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just had baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and almost 10,000 miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. Everyday I seem to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to fly in every respect. On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at 7000ft, 22.4" MP / 2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the week I took it to 18,000ft (on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and 202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about a 1300 mile range less reserves. Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its a truly amazing machine! > > Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work! > > > . > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: Enjoying The Fruits of 2500 Hours of Labor... > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:10 PM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings I find this product very effective on pipe thread and gaskets: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/titesealit.php One can is good for a dozen airplanes. Carl Froehlich RV-8A (550 hrs) RV-10 (systems install) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brian Alley Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2010 6:51 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings I use Pro-Seal on all pipe threads that carry fuel,oil or hydraulic fluid. The threads are not standard on npt as far as where they begin relative to the angle of the fitting. If both fittings are the same, try swapping them and see where they tighten up. In some cases a pipe tap can be used to cut the threads a little deeper but be very careful as you can go to deep and then the fitting will not tighten up at all. BRIAN ALLEY (N320WT) CARBON FIBER COMPOSITES 101 Caroline Circle Hurricane, WV 25526 www.carbonfibercomposites.net 304-562-6800 home 304-395-4932 cell How are you going to win by a nose if you don't stick out your neck? --- On Sun, 8/15/10, j. davis wrote: > From: j. davis > Subject: RV-List: positioning right angle AN fittings > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Date: Sunday, August 15, 2010, 4:19 PM > davis" > > Greetings... just wondering if anyone has any tips on > getting right angle fittings both tight, *and* pointing in > the right direction? > > On my oil cooler, I need one fitting pointing straight > ahead, and the other straight aft. > Naturally, when these [non-swivelling] fittings are > tightened up properly, they don't point where I want them > to. As it turns out, each one would need to be backed > off about 30 degrees, and then it would then seep oil. Fuel > Lube isn't sufficient, perhaps Permatex Form-a-Gasket, or > something else? Any other ideas? Thanks! > > -- Regards, J. > > Sonex #325 C-FJNJ, Jabiru 3300a, Prince P-Tip, Aerocarb > restoring the Johnston Special > http://cleco.ca > > +-------------------------------------------------------------+ > | (computer science) > | > lawsonimaging.ca | > +-------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > I bought some powdered water, but I don't know what to > add to it. > > --- Steven Wright > > Forum - > FAQ, > - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > List Contribution Web Site - > -Matt > Dralle, List Admin. > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:21 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! Well, solo weight + half tanks + IO-390's 210-215 hp + constant speed + cool day = 3000+ fpm. Try pulling it back harder! :-) Matt At 03:15 PM 8/15/2010 Sunday, George Tyler wrote: > >I do not want to suspend belief but I have never seen anything near a 3000 >ft per min climb in my -6. What am I doing wrong. BTW very good looking >air plane >-----Original Message----- >To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com; >rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! > > >We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just >had baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and >almost 10,000 miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. >Everyday I seem to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to >fly in every respect. On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at >7000ft, 22.4" MP / 2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the >week I took it to 18,000ft (on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 >GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and 202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about >a 1300 mile range less reserves. Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its >a truly amazing machine! > >Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work! Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:56 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! Oh, and I forgot one other thing: 20+ GPH! ;-) Matt At 07:47 PM 8/15/2010 Sunday, you wrote: > > >Well, solo weight + half tanks + IO-390's 210-215 hp + constant speed + cool day = 3000+ fpm. Try pulling it back harder! :-) > >Matt > > >At 03:15 PM 8/15/2010 Sunday, George Tyler wrote: >> >>I do not want to suspend belief but I have never seen anything near a 3000 >>ft per min climb in my -6. What am I doing wrong. BTW very good looking >>air plane >>-----Original Message----- >>To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com; rv7-list@matronics.com; >>rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: RV-List: Brownsville California Photos - Inspiration! >> >> >>We flew up to Brownsville California on Saturday and since the RV-8 had just >>had baby's first bath since the test flight (now at 85 hours TTSN, and >>almost 10,000 miles), there were some great opportunities for photo ops. >>Everyday I seem to enjoy flying the RV-8 even more. It is truly a joy to >>fly in every respect. On the way home, I had the IO-390 engine dialed in at >>7000ft, 22.4" MP / 2200 RPM and 204 MPH True at 8.8 GPH. Earlier in the >>week I took it to 18,000ft (on oxygen) and was seeing 170 MPH True at 5.5 >>GPH, 192 MPH @ 6.5 GPH, and 202 MPG @ 7 GPH. At the 5.5 GPH, that's about >>a 1300 mile range less reserves. Coupled with the 3000+ FPM climb solo, its >>a truly amazing machine! >> >>Keep at it! You won't be sorry! It is so worth all the hard work! > > >Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 >925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email >http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft > > Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.