Today's Message Index:
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1. 08:05 AM - Terra Repair (Brian Alley)
2. 08:14 AM - Re: Terra Repair (Linn Walters)
3. 08:25 AM - pinching the aileron trainling edge. (thomas sargent)
4. 08:26 AM - Re: Terra Repair (Larry Pardue)
5. 08:27 AM - Re: Terra Repair (Tracy)
6. 08:36 AM - Re: Terra Repair correction (Larry Pardue)
7. 08:50 AM - Re: Terra Repair (Stein Bruch)
8. 08:50 AM - Re: Terra Repair (Carlos Hernandez)
9. 09:27 AM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (Ed Anderson)
10. 09:50 AM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (David Leonard)
11. 10:40 AM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (passpat@aol.com)
12. 10:43 AM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (carl.froehlich@verizon.net)
13. 11:50 AM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (Dan Bergeron)
14. 04:30 PM - Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. (David Leonard)
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Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency display
repaired or replaced.
Thanks much
Sent from my iPhone
Brian Alley
carbonfibercomposites.net
304-395-4932
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| Subject: | Re: Terra Repair |
Try Gulf Coast Avionics,
http://www.gca.aero/default.asp
Linn
On 10/20/2010 11:01 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley<n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency display
repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
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| Subject: | pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to try
to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how much to
squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of wood
a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do about 1/3
of the length of the aileron on the first try.
--
Tom Sargent
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| Subject: | Re: Terra Repair |
terravionics.com
On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency display
repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Terra Repair |
I had a lot of trouble with my Terra radio display, especially when the
humidity was high (caused various segments to be missing or flicker) It
would clear up when the radio warmed up. I fixed it by spraying the board
around the display liberally with Corrosion X. Been working for 12 years
after that. Give it a try if your symptoms sound similar.
Gulf Coast Avionics offered to fix it (for about the same price as a new
radio).
Tracy Crook
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Brian Alley <n320wt@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency
> display repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Terra Repair correction |
There was an error in my reference, the URL should be terraavionics.com
On Oct 20, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency display
repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
>
>
>
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Try the shop that now owns all of the Terra "stuff";
http://www.terraavionics.com/
Good folks to deal with and they have lots and lots of OEM support for them.
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Linn Walters
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Terra Repair
Try Gulf Coast Avionics,
http://www.gca.aero/default.asp
Linn
On 10/20/2010 11:01 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley<n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency
display repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Terra Repair |
It went from Trimble, then FreeFlightsystems, now the avionics repair
station at Texas State Technical College is the contact.
Contact info is:
Jeff Beene
Director, Aviation Programs
Texas State Technical College - Waco
3801 Campus Drive, Waco, TX 76705
Office: 254.867.3761 | 800.792.8784 ext. 3761
Carlos in Arizona
On 10/20/2010 8:01 AM, Brian Alley wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Brian Alley<n320wt@yahoo.com>
>
> Anyone know of a shop that can work on a Terra radio? I need a frequency display
repaired or replaced.
>
> Thanks much
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Brian Alley
> carbonfibercomposites.net
> 304-395-4932
>
>
--
Carlos Hernandez<carlosh@sec-engr.com>
Structural Engineers Company
2963 W. Elliot Rd. - Suite 3
Chandler, AZ 85224
Phone: 480.968.8600
Fax: 480.968.8608
www.sec-engr.com
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| Subject: | Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
Hi Tom,
I agree - proceed with small amounts of squeezing and test fly after
each adjustment.
I used some thin strips of wood and the "bending Pliers" that have the
3-4" lip for bending metal flanges. I used the wood strips to prevent
the metal of the pliers from denting the metal. I think I squeezed
about 4-5 locations along each aileron.
If you over squeeze, you can apparently place a board against the edge
and hit it (gently and carefully) with a mallet to "swell" the edge back
out.
I did mine back a number of years ago and it flew wings level
afterwards. Be advised that if your paint is old or brittle it is
possible to knock chips of paint off the edge using this process.
Ed
From: thomas sargent
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:20 AM
Subject: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to
try to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how
much to squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of
wood a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do
about 1/3 of the length of the aileron on the first try.
--
Tom Sargent
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| Subject: | Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
Tom,
I tried various methods and am sorry that I did. I saw a minimal
improvement in wing heaviness and to not like the invertible ripples created
in the trailing edge of the aileron. I was also worries about
over-radiusing the trailing edge. I really wish I had just installed a
simple trim tab instead. Adjustable, looks more professional etc...
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:20 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote:
> The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to try
> to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how much to
> squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
>
> How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of
> wood a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do about
> 1/3 of the length of the aileron on the first try.
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
I just took a small 2X4 block and bumped the oppisit aileron and fattened
the trailing edge the method is explained in vans 1? years of RVs
Pat
-----Original Message-----
From: David Leonard <wdleonard@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
Tom,
I tried various methods and am sorry that I did. I saw a minimal improvem
ent in wing heaviness and to not like the invertible ripples created in th
e trailing edge of the aileron. I was also worries about over-radiusing
the trailing edge. I really wish I had just installed a simple trim tab
instead. Adjustable, looks more professional etc...
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:20 AM, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote:
The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to try
to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how much
to squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of wo
od a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do about
1/3 of the length of the aileron on the first try.
--
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| Subject: | Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
TOM:
I WAS GOING NUTS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE A "HEAVY LEFT WING"
ON MY RV-7A. A WISE OLD BUILDER (2X RV-6s and 1X RV-7) GAVE ME SOME
GREAT ADVICE. HERE IT IS: GO TO averytools.com. ORDER YOURSELF A
"RUDDER TRIM TAB," ORDER NUMBER SKU: 9883, COST
$13.50. BOND IT WITH PROSEAL TO THE OUTSIDE, BOTTOM TRAILING EDGE OF
THE RIGHT AILERON AND LET THE PROSEAL CURE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. IT
WILL FORCE THE AILERON UP EVER SO SLIGHTLY - YOU WON'T EVEN NOTICE THE
UP AILERON WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND THE TAB IS SMALL AND INCONSPICUOUS
HIDDEN AWAY UNDER THE AILERON - PRESTO - LIKE MAGIC - I HAVEN'T HAD A
PROBLEM SINCE AND HAVEN'T HAD TO TOUCH THE AIRLERON TRIM BUTTON.
TRY IT - YOU'LL LOVE IT.
DAN BERGERON
RV-7A - N307TB
199 HOURS SINCE FIRST
FLIGHT ON 8/4/09
On 10/20/10, carl.froehlich@verizon.net <carl.froehlich@verizon.net> wrote:
> Before you squeeze anything, have someone else that you have confidence with
> check your rigging.
>
> All the RVs I've seen with a heavy wing problem were rigging related.
> Typically one aileron is mounted lower than the other, the gap betten the
> wing and aileron is different between wings, one or both ailerons are not
> parallel to the wings, or an aileron is mounted lower at one end than the
> other.
>
> Once you are happy with the rigging, make sure your wingtip is not a
> problem. If you fitted the wingtip before rigging the ailerons you might
> have a problem.
>
> Carl
>
> Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 16:21:15 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I agree - proceed with small amounts of squeezing and test fly after each
> adjustment.
>
> I used some thin strips of wood and the "bending Pliers" that have the 3-4"
> lip for bending metal flanges. I used the wood strips to prevent the metal
> of the pliers from denting the metal. I think I squeezed about 4-5
> locations along each aileron.
>
> If you over squeeze, you can apparently place a board against the edge and
> hit it (gently and carefully) with a mallet to "swell" the edge back out.
>
> I did mine back a number of years ago and it flew wings level afterwards.
> Be advised that if your paint is old or brittle it is possible to knock
> chips of paint off the edge using this process.
>
> Ed
>
>
> From: thomas sargent
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:20 AM
> To: rv-list
> Subject: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
>
>
> The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to try
> to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how much to
> squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
>
> How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of wood
> a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do about 1/3
> of the length of the aileron on the first try.
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: pinching the aileron trainling edge. |
Dan has the idea, but instead of buying anything, it is easy enough to do
with a small piece of scrap aluminum. Also, a myiad of less expensive
bonding agents (such as JB weld) will work in place of the pro-seal (which
has very limited pot and shelf lives).
--
David Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.net
http://RotaryRoster.net
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Dan Bergeron <dan.pat.b@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> TOM:
> I WAS GOING NUTS TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO SOLVE A "HEAVY LEFT WING"
> ON MY RV-7A. A WISE OLD BUILDER (2X RV-6s and 1X RV-7) GAVE ME SOME
> GREAT ADVICE. HERE IT IS: GO TO averytools.com. ORDER YOURSELF A
> "RUDDER TRIM TAB," ORDER NUMBER SKU: 9883, COST
> $13.50. BOND IT WITH PROSEAL TO THE OUTSIDE, BOTTOM TRAILING EDGE OF
> THE RIGHT AILERON AND LET THE PROSEAL CURE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS. IT
> WILL FORCE THE AILERON UP EVER SO SLIGHTLY - YOU WON'T EVEN NOTICE THE
> UP AILERON WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT AND THE TAB IS SMALL AND INCONSPICUOUS
> HIDDEN AWAY UNDER THE AILERON - PRESTO - LIKE MAGIC - I HAVEN'T HAD A
> PROBLEM SINCE AND HAVEN'T HAD TO TOUCH THE AIRLERON TRIM BUTTON.
> TRY IT - YOU'LL LOVE IT.
>
> DAN BERGERON
> RV-7A - N307TB
> 199 HOURS SINCE FIRST
> FLIGHT ON 8/4/09
>
> On 10/20/10, carl.froehlich@verizon.net <carl.froehlich@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> > Before you squeeze anything, have someone else that you have confidence
> with
> > check your rigging.
> >
> > All the RVs I've seen with a heavy wing problem were rigging related.
> > Typically one aileron is mounted lower than the other, the gap betten the
> > wing and aileron is different between wings, one or both ailerons are not
> > parallel to the wings, or an aileron is mounted lower at one end than the
> > other.
> >
> > Once you are happy with the rigging, make sure your wingtip is not a
> > problem. If you fitted the wingtip before rigging the ailerons you might
> > have a problem.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Sent from my mobile phone. Please read past the typos.
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> > To: rv-list@matronics.com
> > Sent: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 16:21:15 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: Re: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I agree - proceed with small amounts of squeezing and test fly after
> each
> > adjustment.
> >
> > I used some thin strips of wood and the "bending Pliers" that have the
> 3-4"
> > lip for bending metal flanges. I used the wood strips to prevent the
> metal
> > of the pliers from denting the metal. I think I squeezed about 4-5
> > locations along each aileron.
> >
> > If you over squeeze, you can apparently place a board against the edge
> and
> > hit it (gently and carefully) with a mallet to "swell" the edge back out.
> >
> > I did mine back a number of years ago and it flew wings level afterwards.
> > Be advised that if your paint is old or brittle it is possible to knock
> > chips of paint off the edge using this process.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> > From: thomas sargent
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:20 AM
> > To: rv-list
> > Subject: RV-List: pinching the aileron trainling edge.
> >
> >
> > The time has come for me to squeeze the right aileron trailing edge to
> try
> > to correct a heavy left wing. Can some one give me an idea of how much
> to
> > squeeze? I gather it is a really small change that is required.
> >
> > How do you do it? With fingers? It seemed to me that a couple strips of
> wood
> > a few inches long squeezed with the fingers will do. Iplan to do about
> 1/3
> > of the length of the aileron on the first try.
> >
> > --
> > Tom Sargent
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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