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0. 12:17 AM - No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... (Matt Dralle)
1. 07:28 AM - Transferring builder log data (bcollinsmn)
2. 07:37 AM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Kelly McMullen)
3. 07:57 AM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Bob Collins)
4. 08:41 AM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Ralph & Maria Finch)
5. 09:09 AM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Bob Leffler)
6. 11:45 AM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Matt Dralle)
7. 01:44 PM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Jerry Springer)
8. 02:10 PM - Re: Transferring builder log data (bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net)
9. 04:40 PM - Re: Transferring builder log data (Jerry Springer)
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| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this
year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind
last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of
the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income
might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping
the operation a float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December.
The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| Subject: | Transferring builder log data |
Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building, the computer
on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is showing signs that it's about
to go toes up.
I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another computer (I don't
have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads over the years from the
original Kitlog CD).
I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial version doesn't
have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed up files (or at least I
couldnt' find it).
Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an early version
to the present version can tell me if this function is available on the fully
featured (i.e. paid for) version.
Do not archive
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Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV-7A - Running wires
http://rvbuildershotline.com
Day job: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321201#321201
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
While he may see it here, I would suggest emailing Matt Dralle directly,
as I believe Matronics, hosting this list is the current owner of KitLog
software.
On 11/27/2010 8:26 AM, bcollinsmn wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "bcollinsmn"<bob@rvbuildershotline.com>
>
> Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building, the computer
on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is showing signs that it's
about to go toes up.
>
> I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another computer (I
don't have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads over the years from the
original Kitlog CD).
>
> I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial version doesn't
have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed up files (or at least
I couldnt' find it).
>
> Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an early version
to the present version can tell me if this function is available on the fully
featured (i.e. paid for) version.
>
> Do not archive
>
> --------
> Bob Collins
> St. Paul, Minn.
> RV-7A - Running wires
> http://rvbuildershotline.com
> Day job: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321201#321201
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
Sent a note to the Kitlog cust. serv email days ago....
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On 11/27/2010 9:32 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> While he may see it here, I would suggest emailing Matt Dralle
> directly, as I believe Matronics, hosting this list is the current
> owner of KitLog software.
>
>
> On 11/27/2010 8:26 AM, bcollinsmn wrote:
>> --> RV-List message posted by: "bcollinsmn"<bob@rvbuildershotline.com>
>>
>> Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building,
>> the computer on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is
>> showing signs that it's about to go toes up.
>>
>> I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another
>> computer (I don't have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads
>> over the years from the original Kitlog CD).
>>
>> I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial
>> version doesn't have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed
>> up files (or at least I couldnt' find it).
>>
>> Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an
>> early version to the present version can tell me if this function is
>> available on the fully featured (i.e. paid for) version.
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> --------
>> Bob Collins
>> St. Paul, Minn.
>> RV-7A - Running wires
>> http://rvbuildershotline.com
>> Day job:
>> http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321201#321201
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Transferring builder log data |
Which is why I'm not contributing to the annual List Fund Drive this year.
I too paid for Kitlog Pro a few years ago, and there have been zero
improvements since. When Matt begins to properly support his products then
I'll support the Lists.
Bob, contact me offline and I'll try to help you sort out the restore of
backup if you don't hear from Matt.
Ralph Finch
Davis, California, USA
RV-9A QB-SA
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Transferring builder log data
Sent a note to the Kitlog cust. serv email days ago....
do not archive
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| Subject: | Transferring builder log data |
Bob,
Kitlog just uses a standard Access database as a file store. The current
release of Kitlog, V2.0, Build 050720.1 just has a file open and file
backup. The backup command is just a simple file copy of the *.mbd file.
There really isn't anything to restore, just open a copy of the backup file.
I'd be happy to attempt to load your 1.7.3 version into 2.0 for you as a
test. Let me know how big your file is, then I can determine the best
method to get me the file if you're interested.
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bcollinsmn
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:26 AM
Subject: RV-List: Transferring builder log data
Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building, the
computer on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is showing signs
that it's about to go toes up.
I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another computer (I
don't have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads over the years from
the original Kitlog CD).
I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial version
doesn't have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed up files (or
at least I couldnt' find it).
Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an early
version to the present version can tell me if this function is available on
the fully featured (i.e. paid for) version.
Do not archive
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV-7A - Running wires
http://rvbuildershotline.com
Day job:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=321201#321201
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
At 07:26 AM 11/27/2010 Saturday, you wrote:
>
>Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building, the computer
on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is showing signs that it's
about to go toes up.
>
>I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another computer (I don't
have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads over the years from the
original Kitlog CD).
>
>I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial version doesn't
have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed up files (or at least I
couldnt' find it).
>
>Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an early version
to the present version can tell me if this function is available on the fully
featured (i.e. paid for) version.
>
>Do not archive
>
>--------
>Bob Collins
>St. Paul, Minn.
>RV-7A - Running wires
>http://rvbuildershotline.com
>Day job: http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
Hi Bob,
The database format between Kitlog 1.7.3 and Kitlog 2.0 is different and not directly
compatible. That being said, the Kitlog 2.0 Upgrader that is applied to
an existing Kitlog 1.7.3 installation will automatically upgrade the 1.7.3 database
to the new 2.0 format. I would strongly recommend that you get Kitlog
1.7.3 working on the NEW computer, then try the upgrade to 2.0. Here's the steps
necessary to move the 1.7.3 installation to the NEW computer:
1) Copy the following folder and ALL sub-folders from the OLD computer to the NEW
computer:
c:\Program Files\KitlogPro
Note that if you have referenced photos in your log that are NOT located within
the context of the above directory structure, you should ALSO copy all of these
as well, being careful to exactly match the folder structure from the OLD computer
on the NEW computer.
2) Download the Kitlog 1.7.3 installer from the following link:
http://www.kitlog.com/dls/kitlogpro173.exe
3) Run the installer from Step 2 above.
4) Run Kitlog on the NEW computer and click on the Register button and find the
new SystemID for the NEW computer.
5) Email support@kitlog.com the new SystemID found in Step 4.
6) When you receive the replacement Unlock code based on the new SystemID, start
Kitlog again and install it as directed.
7) Verify that all of your log entries are present on the NEW computer including
all of your pictures. If everything looks good, go to Step 8.
8) On the NEW computer, go to the following URL and download the Kitlog 2.0 Upgrade
(Option 2):
http://www.kitlog.com/downloads/
9) Run the Upgrade and following the instructions. The Upgrade should find your
Kitlog 1.7.3 installation and proceed to create a new Kitlog 2.0 database from
it, then install Kitlog 2.0 on your computer.
NOTE that the Kitlog 2.0 Upgrader will install a completely standalone version
of Kitlog 2.0 on your computer and will in no way disturb the existing Kitlog
1.7.3 installation. Once you've done the upgrade, be sure that you are running
the Kitlog 2.0 installation and NOT the older Kitlog 1.7.3 version. If you
are satisfied with the installation of Kitlog 2.0 and the migration of your log
entries from the old Kitlog 1.7.3 installation, I would recommend using the
Add/Remove Windows Control Panel to Uninstall the Kitlog 1.7.3 installation to
make sure there is no confusion in the future.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics / Kitlog Pro
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
Wow, wow. all I can say is~ well never mind.........
the list has nothing to do with Kitlog!!!!! some people.
But then I have been on the receiving end of of Ralph's nonsense before.
Ralph & Maria Finch wrote:
>
> Which is why I'm not contributing to the annual List Fund Drive this year.
> I too paid for Kitlog Pro a few years ago, and there have been zero
> improvements since. When Matt begins to properly support his products then
> I'll support the Lists.
>
> Bob, contact me offline and I'll try to help you sort out the restore of
> backup if you don't hear from Matt.
>
> Ralph Finch
> Davis, California, USA
> RV-9A QB-SA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Collins
> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 7:55 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Transferring builder log data
>
>
> Sent a note to the Kitlog cust. serv email days ago....
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
Great! Wilco.
Do not archive
Sent via DROID on Verizon Wireless
-----Original message-----
From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Sent: Sat, Nov 27, 2010 19:42:23 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: RV-List: Transferring builder log data
At 07:26 AM 11/27/2010 Saturday, you wrote:
>
>Sorry for the interruption, but after almost 10 years of building, the
computer on which I've kept my builder log (Kitlog 1.7.3) is showing signs
that it's about to go toes up.
>
>I've faithfully backed the data up to a DVD and I've got another computer
(I don't have Kitlog 1.7.3 b/c it was a series of downloads over the years
from the original Kitlog CD).
>
>I'm ready to download Kitlog Pro online but I notice the trial version
doesn't have a menu item as Kitlog 1.7.3 for restoring backed up files (or
at least I couldnt' find it).
>
>Before I spend $49, I wonder if someone who had migrated from an early
version to the present version can tell me if this function is available on
the fully featured (i.e. paid for) version.
>
>Do not archive
>
>--------
>Bob Collins
>St. Paul, Minn.
>RV-7A - Running wires
>http://rvbuildershotline.com
>Day job:
http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/
Hi Bob,
The database format between Kitlog 1.7.3 and Kitlog 2.0 is different and not
directly compatible. That being said, the Kitlog 2.0 Upgrader that is
applied to an existing Kitlog 1.7.3 installation will automatically upgrade
the 1.7.3 database to the new 2.0 format. I would strongly recommend that
you get Kitlog 1.7.3 working on the NEW computer, then try the upgrade to
2.0. Here's the steps necessary to move the 1.7.3 installation to the NEW
computer:
1) Copy the following folder and ALL sub-folders from the OLD computer to
the NEW computer:
c:\Program Files\KitlogPro
Note that if you have referenced photos in your log that are NOT located
within the context of the above directory structure, you should ALSO copy
all of these as well, being careful to exactly match the folder structure
from the OLD computer on the NEW computer.
2) Download the Kitlog 1.7.3 installer from the following link:
http://www.kitlog.com/dls/kitlogpro173.exe
3) Run the installer from Step 2 above.
4) Run Kitlog on the NEW computer and click on the Register button and find
the new SystemID for the NEW computer.
5) Email support@kitlog.com the new SystemID found in Step 4.
6) When you receive the replacement Unlock code based on the new SystemID,
start Kitlog again and install it as directed.
7) Verify that all of your log entries are present on the NEW computer
including all of your pictures. If everything looks good, go to Step 8.
8) On the NEW computer, go to the following URL and download the Kitlog 2.0
Upgrade (Option 2):
http://www.kitlog.com/downloads/
9) Run the Upgrade and following the instructions. The Upgrade should find
your Kitlog 1.7.3 installation and proceed to create a new Kitlog 2.0
database from it, then install Kitlog 2.0 on your computer.
NOTE that the Kitlog 2.0 Upgrader will install a completely standalone
version of Kitlog 2.0 on your computer and will in no way disturb the
existing Kitlog 1.7.3 installation. Once you've done the upgrade, be sure
that you are running the Kitlog 2.0 installation and NOT the older Kitlog
1.7.3 version. If you are satisfied with the installation of Kitlog 2.0 and
the migration of your log entries from the old Kitlog 1.7.3 installation, I
would recommend using the Add/Remove Windows Control Panel to Uninstall the
Kitlog 1.7.3 installation to make sure there is no confusion in the future.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics / Kitlog Pro
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| Subject: | Re: Transferring builder log data |
LOL love your little disappearing messages Ralph can you send some more
please.
Works great to capture them on film. YOU really show what kind of person
you are in real life.
If you weren't a little weeny you would post them for all to see.
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