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2. 08:15 AM - Re: Which battery are you using? (Bill Judge)
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4. 09:51 AM - Any history on N369DP? (Dave Saylor)
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| Subject: | Re: Which battery are you using? |
Check the voltage at the starter. My similar problem turned out to be
the 'bendix' on the starter.
John Morgensen
RV4 - purchased flying
RV9A - soon
On 4/4/2011 6:16 PM, d wntzl wrote:
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years
> based an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then
> the SVR 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr,
> 350CCA). Even this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320
> with a SkyTec starter), and when it's hot, it is even worse.
> Fortunately, my engine starts easily and I've only had problems once
> or twice over these past 550+ hours. However, I've decided to make a
> change - so my question is. . . What are you using, and, are you happy
> with it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which battery are you using? |
I've been using a single PC625 to crank my IO-360 and haven't had any
problems in 600 hrs. With dual electronic ignition I'm electric dependent
and so I have a second PC625 in the rear position that is the emergency
battery. Every 2 years I replace the E battery with a new one and move the
old E battery to the front to crank the engine. The cranking battery sits
where the fuel pump normally goes in an RV-8.
The reliability of a battery changes if you use it to crank your engine. My
understanding is that they have different curves for the reliability of
batteries that crank as a part of regular service and batteries that don't
crank. This difference is supposed to be substantial so if you can avoid
cranking with your back up battery you should.
When I did the initial design I made provisions to crank off both batteries
but I've never had to do that. With the arrangement I've got the cranking
battery is never older than 4 years and the E battery is never older than 2.
The Odyssey batteries are pretty amazing, the PC625 looks tiny but cranks my
skytec just fine. Right now the PC625 is about $100 so that's pretty cheap
in airplane terms every 2 years, even still it's usually the most expensive
thing in the annuals when I do replace it!
VR,
Bill
RV-8, N84WJ 600 hrs.
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> 1. 06:24 PM - Re: Which battery are you using? (d wntzl)
> 2. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (vanremog)
> 3. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Robin Marks)
> 4. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Ed Anderson)
> 5. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Kelly McMullen)
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> Time: 06:24:58 PM PST US
> From: d wntzl <dwntzl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> -- I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years ba
> sed an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14,- then the
> SVR 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA).- Even
> this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec star
> ter), and when it's hot, it is even worse.- Fortunately, my engine starts
> easily and I've only had problems once or twice over these past 550+ hours
> . However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is. . . What are
> you using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> -- Thank you in advance.
> ----- David Wentzell- -- RV6
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:37:36 PM PST US
> From: vanremog <vanremog@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> Dave-
>
> Many of us are using the PC680 Odyssey VRLA type batteries with good
> results.
> It has quite good CCA but is only a 14Ah battery weighing about 12 lbs
> IIRC.
>
> -GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 970hrs)
>
>
> In a message dated 04/04/11 18:25:42 Pacific Daylight Time,
> dwntzl@yahoo.com writes:
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based
> an a
> lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR 20, and
> for
> the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even this latest one
> just
> barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec starter), and when it's
> hot,
> it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine starts easily and I've only had
> problems once or twice over these past 550+ hours. However, I've decided to
> make
> a change - so my question is. . . What are you using, and, are you happy
> with
> it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:46:16 PM PST US
> From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> I think there was a group buy for Odyssey Batteries posted on the RV list
> recently referencing a VAF posting.
>
>
> Here is something from a VAF posting. I have no knowledge of the company or
> who posted the pricing. Just passing it along.
>
>
> Bohannon *Battery* in Florida:
> http://www.bohannonbattery.com/html/odyssey.html
> Odyssey PC680 $115.41 and free shipping. My experience was positive overall
> with a quick replies to e-mails.
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *d wntzl
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 6:17 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based
> an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR
> 20,
> and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even this
> latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec starter),
> and when it's hot, it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine starts easily
> and I've only had problems once or twice over these past 550+ hours.
> However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is. . . What are
> you
> using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
>
> * *
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> Time: 07:06:12 PM PST US
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> David, I have used the Odyssey PC680 in my RV-6A for the last 10 years
> and am very happy with price and performance.
>
> Ed
>
> Edward L. Anderson
> Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
> 305 Reefton Road
> Weddington, NC 28104
> http://www.andersonee.com
> http://www.eicommander.com
>
>
> From: d wntzl
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:16 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6
> years based an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14,
> then the SVR 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr,
> 350CCA). Even this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320
> with a SkyTec starter), and when it's hot, it is even worse.
> Fortunately, my engine starts easily and I've only had problems once or
> twice over these past 550+ hours. However, I've decided to make a change
> - so my question is. . . What are you using, and, are you happy with
> it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:54:05 PM PST US
> From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Your bigger issue is the Skytec starter. If it is one of the original PM
> series, it has a very high current draw to over come the compression
> stroke. The later NL series (inline) have much less draw, as do other
> brands like B&C or Kelly E series.
> The PM series need a good battery, excellent battery cables, excellent
> connections and grounds to work well. Be sure all your ground cables
> from engine to airframe and airframe to battery are top notch.
>
> On 4/4/2011 6:16 PM, d wntzl wrote:
> >
> > Listers,
> > I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based
> > an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR
> > 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even
> > this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec
> > starter), and when it's hot, it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine
> > starts easily and I've only had problems once or twice over these past
> > 550+ hours. However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is.
> > . . What are you using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> > Thank you in advance.
> > David Wentzell - RV6
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> > *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which battery are you using? |
Mine is 5 yrs old and 460 hrs. Still cranks fine.
Sent from my Verizon iPhone
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Bill Judge <bjudge@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've been using a single PC625 to crank my IO-360 and haven't had any prob
lems in 600 hrs. With dual electronic ignition I'm electric dependent and so
I have a second PC625 in the rear position that is the emergency battery. E
very 2 years I replace the E battery with a new one and move the old E batte
ry to the front to crank the engine. The cranking battery sits where the fue
l pump normally goes in an RV-8.
>
> The reliability of a battery changes if you use it to crank your engine. M
y understanding is that they have different curves for the reliability of ba
tteries that crank as a part of regular service and batteries that don't cra
nk. This difference is supposed to be substantial so if you can avoid cranki
ng with your back up battery you should.
>
> When I did the initial design I made provisions to crank off both batterie
s but I've never had to do that. With the arrangement I've got the cranking b
attery is never older than 4 years and the E battery is never older than 2. T
he Odyssey batteries are pretty amazing, the PC625 looks tiny but cranks my s
kytec just fine. Right now the PC625 is about $100 so that's pretty cheap in
airplane terms every 2 years, even still it's usually the most expensive th
ing in the annuals when I do replace it!
>
> VR,
> Bill
> RV-8, N84WJ 600 hrs.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:59 PM, RV-List Digest Server <rv-list@matronics.
com> wrote:
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> 1. 06:24 PM - Re: Which battery are you using? (d wntzl)
> 2. 06:37 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (vanremog)
> 3. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Robin Marks)
> 4. 07:06 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Ed Anderson)
> 5. 07:54 PM - Re: Re: Which battery are you using? (Kelly McMullen)
>
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> Time: 06:24:58 PM PST US
> From: d wntzl <dwntzl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> -- I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years ba
> sed an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14,- then the
> SVR 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA).- Even
> this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec sta
r
> ter), and when it's hot, it is even worse.- Fortunately, my engine starts
> easily and I've only had problems once or twice over these past 550+ hour
s
> . However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is. . . What are
> you using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> -- Thank you in advance.
> ----- David Wentzell- -- RV6
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 06:37:36 PM PST US
> From: vanremog <vanremog@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> Dave-
>
> Many of us are using the PC680 Odyssey VRLA type batteries with good resul
ts.
> It has quite good CCA but is only a 14Ah battery weighing about 12 lbs IIR
C.
>
> -GV (RV-6A N1GV flying 970hrs)
>
>
> In a message dated 04/04/11 18:25:42 Pacific Daylight Time, dwntzl@yahoo.c
om writes:
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based a
n a
> lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR 20, an
d for
> the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even this latest one j
ust
> barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec starter), and when it's h
ot,
> it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine starts easily and I've only had
> problems once or twice over these past 550+ hours. However, I've decided t
o make
> a change - so my question is. . . What are you using, and, are you happy w
ith
> it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 06:46:16 PM PST US
> From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
> Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> I think there was a group buy for Odyssey Batteries posted on the RV list
> recently referencing a VAF posting.
>
>
> Here is something from a VAF posting. I have no knowledge of the company o
r
> who posted the pricing. Just passing it along.
>
>
> Bohannon *Battery* in Florida:
> http://www.bohannonbattery.com/html/odyssey.html
> Odyssey PC680 $115.41 and free shipping. My experience was positive overal
l
> with a quick replies to e-mails.
>
>
> Robin
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *d wntzl
> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2011 6:17 PM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based
> an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR 2
0,
> and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even this
> latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec starter),
> and when it's hot, it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine starts easily
> and I've only had problems once or twice over these past 550+ hours.
> However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is. . . What are y
ou
> using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
> * *
>
> * *
>
>
> * *
>
> ------------------------------
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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________
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>
> Time: 07:06:12 PM PST US
> From: "Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
> David, I have used the Odyssey PC680 in my RV-6A for the last 10 years
> and am very happy with price and performance.
>
> Ed
>
> Edward L. Anderson
> Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
> 305 Reefton Road
> Weddington, NC 28104
> http://www.andersonee.com
> http://www.eicommander.com
>
>
> From: d wntzl
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 9:16 PM
> Subject: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Listers,
> I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6
> years based an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14,
> then the SVR 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr,
> 350CCA). Even this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320
> with a SkyTec starter), and when it's hot, it is even worse.
> Fortunately, my engine starts easily and I've only had problems once or
> twice over these past 550+ hours. However, I've decided to make a change
> - so my question is. . . What are you using, and, are you happy with
> it's performance??
> Thank you in advance.
> David Wentzell - RV6
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________
________
>
>
> Time: 07:54:05 PM PST US
> From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Which battery are you using?
>
>
> Your bigger issue is the Skytec starter. If it is one of the original PM
> series, it has a very high current draw to over come the compression
> stroke. The later NL series (inline) have much less draw, as do other
> brands like B&C or Kelly E series.
> The PM series need a good battery, excellent battery cables, excellent
> connections and grounds to work well. Be sure all your ground cables
> from engine to airframe and airframe to battery are top notch.
>
> On 4/4/2011 6:16 PM, d wntzl wrote:
> >
> > Listers,
> > I have been using an SVR Sealed battery for the past 5 or 6 years based
> > an a lister recomendation way back then. First the SVR 14, then the SVR
> > 20, and for the past year or so the SVR 30 (30 amp hr, 350CCA). Even
> > this latest one just barely turns the engine over (O320 with a SkyTec
> > starter), and when it's hot, it is even worse. Fortunately, my engine
> > starts easily and I've only had problems once or twice over these past
> > 550+ hours. However, I've decided to make a change - so my question is.
> > . . What are you using, and, are you happy with it's performance??
> > Thank you in advance.
> > David Wentzell - RV6
> >
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Anyone know anything about an RV-8A for sale in Manitowoc, WI? It was
built by Doug Peterson and has since changed hands.
I'm doing a pre-purchase and just looking for any show-stoppers.
Please contact me off-list if there's anything we should know.
Many thanks,
Dave Saylor
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