---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/19/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:59 AM - Re: annual again (Mike Robertson) 2. 08:55 AM - Re: annual again (Michael Kraus) 3. 08:04 PM - Re: annual again (Kelly McMullen) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:00 AM PST US From: Mike Robertson Subject: RE: RV-List: annual again Sorry to do this to you=2C but your inspector cannot "give" you 13 months a s the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12 xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the aircraft operating limita tions. As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011 then you will need to inspect but the end of May=2C 2012=2C which effectively gives you almost 13 months. Idealy=2C do the condition inspection the last week of may and sign it of f on June 1. Then the next year the condition inpsection won't be due unti l June 30. For Tom=2C A really good place to find POHs and inspeciton checklists is on the Van's Air Force website. Several people=2C myself included=2C have posted RV POH 's there. And almost every one of them includes a section with a condition inpseciton checklist. Mike Robertson Das Fed Repeat Offender Subject: Re: RV-List: annual again From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net Mine too was input by the FAA inspector in my log book and operating limita tions. He gave me 13 months for the first year. A/W received 5/2/2011=2C conditional inspection due 6/30/12... Sent from my iPhone On May 17=2C 2011=2C at 1:32 PM=2C thomas sargent wrote : Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual. I will d efinitely use those lists. I read thru section FAR 43. I didn't see anywhere a clear description of t he timing of the annual inspection. If my airworthiness certificate was gr anted July 7=2C do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7? Is t here a "grace period"? Is there a special logbook entry to be made? 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He did the same thing when he certified my RV-4 in 2002... Sent from my iPhone On May 19, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Mike Robertson wrote: > Sorry to do this to you, but your inspector cannot "give" you 13 months as the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12 xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the aircraft operating limitatio ns. As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011 then you will need to inspect but t he end of May, 2012, which effectively gives you almost 13 months. Idealy, d o the condition inspection the last week of may and sign it off on June 1. T hen the next year the condition inpsection won't be due until June 30. > > For Tom, > > A really good place to find POHs and inspeciton checklists is on the Van's Air Force website. Several people, myself included, have posted RV POH's t here. And almost every one of them includes a section with a condition inps eciton checklist. > > > Mike Robertson > Das Fed > Repeat Offender > > Subject: Re: RV-List: annual again > From: n223rv@wolflakeairport.net > Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 15:55:35 -0400 > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Mine too was input by the FAA inspector in my log book and operating limit ations. He gave me 13 months for the first year. A/W received 5/2/2011, c onditional inspection due 6/30/12... > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 17, 2011, at 1:32 PM, thomas sargent wrote: > > Thanks for those great responses to my question about the annual. I will d efinitely use those lists. > > I read thru section FAR 43. I didn't see anywhere a clear description of t he timing of the annual inspection. If my airworthiness certificate was gra nted July 7, do I have to have the inspection completed by july 7? Is there a "grace period"? > > Is there a special logbook entry to be made? > > Thanks > > -- > Tom Sargent > > > > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > -List > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:04:35 PM PST US From: Kelly McMullen Subject: Re: RV-List: annual again Mike R is correct. Not even an FAA employee can break the rules. 12 months is the rule. Now if he did your airworthiness inspection on the last day of the month, I suppose he could date it for the next day. Kelly A&P/IA Tech Counselor FAAST Team On 5/19/2011 8:49 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > Not going to argue with you, but the FAA did my A/W inspection and gave > me my op limits. He specifically stated in my op limits the 1st > conditional inspection is due 6/30/2012. He told me he always gives 13 > months the first year. He did the same thing when he certified my RV-4 > in 2002... > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On May 19, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Mike Robertson > wrote: > >> Sorry to do this to you, but your inspector cannot "give" you 13 >> months as the requirement to do the condition inspection every 12 >> xcalendar months is in FAR 91 as well as clearly called out in the >> aircraft operating limitations. As your a/w was received on 5/2/2011 >> then you will need to inspect but the end of May, 2012, which >> effectively gives you almost 13 months. Idealy, do the condition >> inspection the last week of may and sign it off on June 1. 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