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1. 06:43 AM - Floscan sensor orientation? (Charlie England)
2. 07:03 AM - Fixed pitch to constant speed (Craig Gallenbach)
3. 07:33 AM - Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed (AOL)
4. 07:50 AM - Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed (Robin Marks)
5. 09:04 AM - Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed (Carl Froehlich)
6. 09:13 AM - Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed (Craig Gallenbach)
7. 09:21 AM - Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed (richard seiders)
8. 11:10 AM - A Kindred Spirit... (Matt Dralle)
9. 11:25 PM - Re: A Kindred Spirit... (Don D Gates)
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| Subject: | Floscan sensor orientation? |
Anyone have a floscan 201 sensor that's working ok while mounted in
other than a horizontal position? My most convenient location would have
the fuel path flowing up at a 45 degree angle. In addition, the mounting
can have the wires 'up', but mounting would be a bit more convenient
with the wires pointing horizontally.
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Charlie
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| Subject: | Fixed pitch to constant speed |
I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. -I am conside
ring changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about the added
weight on the nose of the plane. -My plane is on the nose heavy side as i
t is, and I would not like to make it any more so. -I am looking at the W
hirlwind RV series. -Does anyone out there know how the installed weight
of a Whirlwind prop compares to the fixed pitch Sensenich? -The Whirlwind
prop and spinner weigh in at about 38# according to the folks at Whirlwind
. -I was hoping to find out the weight of the Sensenich installation with
out pulling my prop.
Thanks,
Craig GallenbachEastover, NCRV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed |
I have a RV8a with a IO-360 200hp which is a little heavier than your
engine plus I have constant speed prop and have been flying it since
2002. That being said I do keep 25 lb. of lead shot in the aft baggage
compartment and a few tools which keeps the elevator pretty even or
level in flight thus creating less drag. When landing it also helps
with a lot less trim. I have confess my best landing are when I have a
passenger in the rear seat and nothing in the aft baggage area
Dane Sheahen
RV8a
On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Craig Gallenbach wrote:
> I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. I am
considering changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about
the added weight on the nose of the plane. My plane is on the nose
heavy side as it is, and I would not like to make it any more so. I am
looking at the Whirlwind RV series. Does anyone out there know how the
installed weight of a Whirlwind prop compares to the fixed pitch
Sensenich? The Whirlwind prop and spinner weigh in at about 38#
according to the folks at Whirlwind. I was hoping to find out the
weight of the Sensenich installation without pulling my prop.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig Gallenbach
> Eastover, NC
> RV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fixed pitch to constant speed |
Craig,
Do you have your battery in the back?
I have an IO-360 200 Hp / Hartzell BA CS prop (great combination) and have
no issues flying solo with full fuel or near empty and no weight in the
back.
One note I have dual G3X and back up EFIS so I suspect my panel is lighter
than a 10 year old build with steam gauges.
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 225 Hours
RV-8A 30 Hours
*From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *AOL
*Sent:* Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:31 AM
*To:* rv-list@matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV-List: Fixed pitch to constant speed
I have a RV8a with a IO-360 200hp which is a little heavier than your engine
plus I have constant speed prop and have been flying it since 2002. That
being said I do keep 25 lb. of lead shot in the aft baggage compartment and
a few tools which keeps the elevator pretty even or level in flight thus
creating less drag. When landing it also helps with a lot less trim. I have
confess my best landing are when I have a passenger in the rear seat and
nothing in the aft baggage area
Dane Sheahen
RV8a
On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Craig Gallenbach wrote:
I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. I am
considering changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about the
added weight on the nose of the plane. My plane is on the nose heavy side
as it is, and I would not like to make it any more so. I am looking at the
Whirlwind RV series. Does anyone out there know how the installed weight of
a Whirlwind prop compares to the fixed pitch Sensenich? The Whirlwind prop
and spinner weigh in at about 38# according to the folks at Whirlwind. I
was hoping to find out the weight of the Sensenich installation without
pulling my prop.
Thanks,
Craig Gallenbach
Eastover, NC
RV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
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| Subject: | Fixed pitch to constant speed |
Craig,
I did this conversion on my 8A about three years ago. After reviewing all
the performance data on the various CS props available, I selected the
Hartzell blended airfoil. I have an IO-360, 180 hp engine so the engine
weigh is the same as yours.
Looking back over my W&B data, I can tell you the Hartzell was 13 pounds
heavier than the Sensenich. I have two Odyssey 625 batteries mounted just
aft of the firewall. I considered moving one of them to the aft mount
location but decided to wait until after flying to see if it I had a nose
heavy problem or not. Bottom line, I did not see much difference so I left
the batteries where they are.
As I did with the Sensenich, I put a 25 pound shot bag in the baggage
compartment if I'm solo and no baggage. My W&B does not require this, but I
find it helps.
I can tell you the performance difference between the Sensenich and the
Hartzell was far more dramatic than I anticipated. You will love the
change. I have a couple of hotrod Lancairs at the airpark and while they
eventually pass me, I give them a surprising run for their money.
BTW - I'm using the PCU-5000 governor and am very pleased with it. If you
need a governor control cable bracket let me know - I have a new one sitting
here I bought from Van's by mistake for the RV-10.
Carl
RV-8A (650 hrs)
RV-10 (prepping the fuselage for paint)
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:47 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Fixed pitch to constant speed
Craig,
Do you have your battery in the back?
I have an IO-360 200 Hp / Hartzell BA CS prop (great combination) and have
no issues flying solo with full fuel or near empty and no weight in the
back.
One note I have dual G3X and back up EFIS so I suspect my panel is lighter
than a 10 year old build with steam gauges.
Robin
RV-4 Sold
RV-6A Sold
RV-10 225 Hours
RV-8A 30 Hours
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AOL
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Fixed pitch to constant speed
I have a RV8a with a IO-360 200hp which is a little heavier than your engine
plus I have constant speed prop and have been flying it since 2002. That
being said I do keep 25 lb. of lead shot in the aft baggage compartment and
a few tools which keeps the elevator pretty even or level in flight thus
creating less drag. When landing it also helps with a lot less trim. I have
confess my best landing are when I have a passenger in the rear seat and
nothing in the aft baggage area
Dane Sheahen
RV8a
On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Craig Gallenbach wrote:
I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. I am
considering changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about the
added weight on the nose of the plane. My plane is on the nose heavy side
as it is, and I would not like to make it any more so. I am looking at the
Whirlwind RV series. Does anyone out there know how the installed weight of
a Whirlwind prop compares to the fixed pitch Sensenich? The Whirlwind prop
and spinner weigh in at about 38# according to the folks at Whirlwind. I
was hoping to find out the weight of the Sensenich installation without
pulling my prop.
Thanks,
Craig Gallenbach
Eastover, NC
RV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed |
Battery is on the firewall. CG with me and no fuel is 79.47. I am hoping to d
o this with minimum changes such as having to move the battery.
Craig
On Jun 25, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com> wrote:
> Craig,
>
> Do you have your battery in the back?
>
> I have an IO-360 200 Hp / Hartzell BA CS prop (great combination) and have
no issues flying solo with full fuel or near empty and no weight in the bac
k.
>
> One note I have dual G3X and back up EFIS so I suspect my panel is lighter
than a 10 year old build with steam gauges.
>
>
>
> Robin
>
> RV-4 Sold
>
> RV-6A Sold
>
> RV-10 225 Hours
>
> RV-8A 30 Hours
>
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onics.com] On Behalf Of AOL
> Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 7:31 AM
> To: rv-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV-List: Fixed pitch to constant speed
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> I have a RV8a with a IO-360 200hp which is a little heavier than your engi
ne plus I have constant speed prop and have been flying it since 2002. That
being said I do keep 25 lb. of lead shot in the aft baggage compartment an
d a few tools which keeps the elevator pretty even or level in flight thus c
reating less drag. When landing it also helps with a lot less trim. I have c
onfess my best landing are when I have a passenger in the rear seat and noth
ing in the aft baggage area
>
>
>
> Dane Sheahen
>
> RV8a
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>
>
> On Jun 25, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Craig Gallenbach wrote:
>
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> I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. I am consider
ing changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about the added we
ight on the nose of the plane. My plane is on the nose heavy side as it is,
and I would not like to make it any more so. I am looking at the Whirlwind
RV series. Does anyone out there know how the installed weight of a Whirlw
ind prop compares to the fixed pitch Sensenich? The Whirlwind prop and spin
ner weigh in at about 38# according to the folks at Whirlwind. I was hoping
to find out the weight of the Sensenich installation without pulling my pro
p.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Craig Gallenbach
>
> Eastover, NC
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> RV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Fixed pitch to constant speed |
Craig, I had an RV6A with a Hartzell Constant Speed. I believe it added 40
to 50lbs on the nose. That wasn't a problem for the 6A. Can't speak for the
8. The Hartzell is a great prop (supplied direct from factory by Van's). It
performed perfectly
for over 500 hrs and is still flying as before. (sold 6A last yr). If you
are considering a Whirlwind check it out closely as I have a friend who
owned an 8 and could never get his to work as expected. That doesn't mean
it's not a good cons.spd. product. It means just what I said.
Dick seiders
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Craig Gallenbach <craigtxtx@yahoo.com>wrote:
> I have a RV8A with an O-360 and fixed pitch Sensenich prop. I am
> considering changing to a constant speed prop, but I am concerned about the
> added weight on the nose of the plane. My plane is on the nose heavy side
> as it is, and I would not like to make it any more so. I am looking at the
> Whirlwind RV series. Does anyone out there know how the installed weight of
> a Whirlwind prop compares to the fixed pitch Sensenich? The Whirlwind prop
> and spinner weigh in at about 38# according to the folks at Whirlwind. I
> was hoping to find out the weight of the Sensenich installation without
> pulling my prop.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Craig Gallenbach
> Eastover, NC
> RV8-A, N184CG 195hrs
>
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| Subject: | A Kindred Spirit... |
A 20-year Project
A 42-foot schooner isn't a big project for a ship-building company. It's a different
matter if you're the one doing all the work. In the early 1990s, Dr. John
Vardiman decided to build one from scratch. It took over 20 years to complete.
What an great story of perseverance...
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I know just how he feels... :-)
Matt
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Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: A Kindred Spirit... |
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