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Tue 07/05/11


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     1. 05:20 AM - Re: Help with Gns 480 Century HSI (Ralph E. Capen)
     2. 06:08 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Bruce)
     3. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Bruce)
     4. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Dave Saylor)
     5. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Linn Walters)
     6. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Tim Olson)
     7. 07:47 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Tim Olson)
     8. 08:02 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Bruce)
     9. 08:24 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Kelly McMullen)
    10. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Tim Olson)
    11. 08:47 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (Tim Olson)
    12. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... (David)
    13. 01:10 PM - Re: adjusting cooling baffles (David Burnham)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:20:00 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Help with Gns 480 Century HSI
    The MX20 has a serial port definition that needs to be configured for altitude input. I had a similar problem when I swapped out my GX60 for my 420W...the altitude signal needs to come directly as serial input either from the encoder or transponder (mine's from the transponder).previously the GX60 would do it but the 420W did not...caused a minor rewiring change. You may have a similar situation... As for the CDI, there are essentially two wires that provide the L/R signal to the NSD1000.hence the 'did it ever work' question. I have all of the wiring diagrams for everything except the CNX-80 - GNS480. If I can get the installation manual for that, I can tell you what pins to shoot for continuity. From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 9:23 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Help with Gns 480 Century HSI Dave, I have a similar setup.NSD1000 MX20 SL70 PSE7000MS( SL15Equiv) - but Garmin 420 instead.. Let me look through my stuff and give you a couple of things to check out... Meanwhile, did it ever work properly? If not - there will be a different set of things to check.. Ralph From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Burnham Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 6:17 PM Subject: RV-List: Help with Gns 480 Century HSI I have a CNX-80 - GNS480 witht he following other units. Century 1000 HSI, MX20, SL15. I had the GNS 480 software upgrade, since then I am not getting any CDI function on the HSI. the VDI etc, still works, but not CDI. I have checked my setup and all seems OK to me - but I may be missing something. Also, Altitude does not display on MX 20 - have an SL70 remote transponder - output from GNS 480 is showing correct altitude. Any GNS 480 experts, help would be appreciated. Avionics shop where I had the upgrade done is not homebuilder friendly. Dave Burnham RV6A - N64FN - flying since 2006 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:08:09 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce" <BGray@glasair.org>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Hi Guys, I already have all the equipment I need for ADS-B Out for my Glasair III. But it seems that in its rush to get the regulation out to the public, the FAA did not provide any path for Experimental aircraft to install/approve ADBS-B. The FAA has published an advisory circular on the subject (AC 20-165) that states ALL ADBS-B installations must be approved before use. It then goes on to state that approval requires an STC. It also broadly hints that all equipment must be TSO'ed. You all must know that STC's do not apply to us. To add further confusion, I was told by my local FSDO that all STC's for approval were not being accepted and that the only way to get approval was from the original aircraft manufacturer. I asked the FSDO if we (the home builder) were considered the manufacturer and was told the FAA felt that it was the kit manufacturer. I called the EAA, they were clueless. So, it seems that you (or we) can't get there from here. Any one have any ideas? Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:45 PM Subject: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... At 06:23 AM 7/3/2011 Sunday, you wrote: <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net> > >Matt can you tell us about the ADS-B receiver? Got a link? I need to start thinking about one. I ordered the ADS600-B unit from NavWorx: http://www.navworx.com/ads600-b.asp Here's their main site: http://www.navworx.com/index.asp They're not exactly cheap. Here's the price list: http://navworx.americommerce.com/store/c/21-Buy-Your-NavWorx-ADS600-or-P ADS600-Online-Now.aspx I also ordered it with the WIFI module and the ARINC-429 for fun. Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...


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    Time: 06:49:35 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce" <BGray@glasair.org>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Woops, Here's the link to the AC, http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument Bruce WWW.Glasair.org


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    Time: 07:03:15 AM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Hi Bruce, I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. Which transceiver are you using? Display? Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce <BGray@glasair.org> wrote: > > Woops, > > Here's the link to the AC, > > http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC > ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > >


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    Time: 07:33:23 AM PST US
    From: Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    On 7/5/2011 9:04 AM, Bruce wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> > > Hi Guys, > > I already have all the equipment I need for ADS-B Out for my Glasair > III. But it seems that in its rush to get the regulation out to the > public, the FAA did not provide any path for Experimental aircraft to > install/approve ADBS-B. snip > So, it seems that you (or we) can't get there from here. Any one have > any ideas? Yep. Install it like you want it .... and ask forgiveness later. The only thing I'd put into the 'must do' category is to make sure the transmitted information being broadcast is accurate. There are already a lot of ADS-B installations in experimentals. Linn > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:45 PM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... > > --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle<dralle@matronics.com> > > At 06:23 AM 7/3/2011 Sunday, you wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester > <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net> >> Matt can you tell us about the ADS-B receiver? Got a link? I need to > start thinking about one. > > > I ordered the ADS600-B unit from NavWorx: > > http://www.navworx.com/ads600-b.asp > > Here's their main site: > > http://www.navworx.com/index.asp > > They're not exactly cheap. Here's the price list: > > http://navworx.americommerce.com/store/c/21-Buy-Your-NavWorx-ADS600-or-P > ADS600-Online-Now.aspx > > I also ordered it with the WIFI module and the ARINC-429 for fun. > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > >


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    Time: 07:44:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    To me, the section 1-1(b) says enough to move ahead. If you get it installed, and working properly, you're unlikely to have any worries. And the benefits of it are many. Tim On Jul 5, 2011, at 8:46 AM, "Bruce" <BGray@glasair.org> wrote: > > Woops, > > Here's the link to the AC, > > http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC > ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > > > >


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    Time: 07:47:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Definitely make sure your transmitted info is set up correctly. Other than that, you'll want it to squawk the same code as your transponder....and if you have a gtx330 you're golden. Likely the same with gtx327. Tim On Jul 5, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> wrote: > > On 7/5/2011 9:04 AM, Bruce wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >> >> Hi Guys, >> >> I already have all the equipment I need for ADS-B Out for my Glasair >> III. But it seems that in its rush to get the regulation out to the >> public, the FAA did not provide any path for Experimental aircraft to >> install/approve ADBS-B. > snip >> So, it seems that you (or we) can't get there from here. Any one have >> any ideas? > Yep. Install it like you want it .... and ask forgiveness later. The only thing I'd put into the 'must do' category is to make sure the transmitted information being broadcast is accurate. There are already a lot of ADS-B installations in experimentals. > Linn >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle >> Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 1:45 PM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle<dralle@matronics.com> >> >> At 06:23 AM 7/3/2011 Sunday, you wrote: >>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bobby Hester >> <bobbyhester@newwavecomm.net> >>> Matt can you tell us about the ADS-B receiver? Got a link? I need to >> start thinking about one. >> >> >> I ordered the ADS600-B unit from NavWorx: >> >> http://www.navworx.com/ads600-b.asp >> >> Here's their main site: >> >> http://www.navworx.com/index.asp >> >> They're not exactly cheap. Here's the price list: >> >> http://navworx.americommerce.com/store/c/21-Buy-Your-NavWorx-ADS600-or-P >> ADS600-Online-Now.aspx >> >> I also ordered it with the WIFI module and the ARINC-429 for fun. >> >> Matt >> >> - >> Matt Dralle >> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" >> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log >> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Rebuild - Post Landing Mishap Rebuild Log >> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel >> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > >


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    Time: 08:02:47 AM PST US
    From: "Bruce" <BGray@glasair.org>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Garmin 530W, Garmin 330 transponder updated for ADBS-B Out, and a RMI microencoder/air data unit. All are TSO'ed except the RMI air data system. I still believe it has to be approved because it transmits position data to ATC. We just can't install and turn it on, at least that's what the FSDO tells me. There is no in flight approved testing procedure in place yet, and no one has the ground testing equipment to verify the transmitted data blocks around here. Bruce WWW.Glasair.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:59 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> Hi Bruce, I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. Which transceiver are you using? Display? Dave Saylor AirCrafters 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 95076 831-722-9141 Shop 831-750-0284 Cell On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce <BGray@glasair.org> wrote: > > Woops, > > Here's the link to the AC, > > http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC > ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument > > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > >


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    Time: 08:24:50 AM PST US
    From: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Another example of the FAA left hand not having a clue what the right hand is doing. Your transponder and GPS are TSO. That means the position information complies with the requirements. Your air data system has to meet a different regulation, and I assume it does if it passes an IFR static system check. Too many FAA inspectors have no experience/training on experimental aircraft side of the house, and rather than linking you up with someone who does, try to bluff their way into making the problem go away. Just read an idiot article today on the "new" air traffic system that once again says ADSB/Next Gen will replace radar. If that were true, we wouldn't be required to have either Mode A/C transponders or Mode S in addition to UAT. The FAA wouldn't have gone to the totally stupid dual frequency system. Also article said lots about airlines not wanting to spend the money, without one mention of GA and who pays for that. Grump, grump. Maybe Das Fed (if he isn't too busy stomping out office brushfires) can shine some light on the subject for us and send something off to the author of the AC to remind them they need to deal with experimental installs as well if they want the air traffic system to retain integrity. Not that I want more fed involvement, but really is necessary on something that affects all aircraft. On 7/5/2011 8:00 AM, Bruce wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> > > Garmin 530W, Garmin 330 transponder updated for ADBS-B Out, and a RMI > microencoder/air data unit. All are TSO'ed except the RMI air data > system. > > I still believe it has to be approved because it transmits position data > to ATC. We just can't install and turn it on, at least that's what the > FSDO tells me. There is no in flight approved testing procedure in place > yet, and no one has the ground testing equipment to verify the > transmitted data blocks around here. > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:59 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... > > --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Saylor > <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> > > Hi Bruce, > > I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking > TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. > > Which transceiver are you using? Display? > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce<BGray@glasair.org> wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >> >> Woops, >> >> Here's the link to the AC, >> >> > http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC >> ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument >> >> >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:31:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    But all over that document it says "a position source meeting the minimum performance requirements of any revision of TSO-C129, TSO-C145, TSO-C146, or TSO-C196...) So it says all over that it needs to meet the performance reqs but doesn't say it has to BE TSO'd. I won't go on further other than to say if it doesn't make you comfortable than don't do it. I doubt in today's financial climate they'll be equipping ramp checkers with the tools to test and verify the parameters, but I guess you never know. There are many people using such equipment today though, and the AC makes some awesome points. Some of the biggest things are single-entry-point code entry and things like that. So those things would be more worrysome because if you aren't squawking properly, then THAT is something that may be noticed. Tim On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:00 AM, "Bruce" <BGray@glasair.org> wrote: > > Garmin 530W, Garmin 330 transponder updated for ADBS-B Out, and a RMI > microencoder/air data unit. All are TSO'ed except the RMI air data > system. > > I still believe it has to be approved because it transmits position data > to ATC. We just can't install and turn it on, at least that's what the > FSDO tells me. There is no in flight approved testing procedure in place > yet, and no one has the ground testing equipment to verify the > transmitted data blocks around here. > > Bruce > WWW.Glasair.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:59 AM > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... > > <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> > > Hi Bruce, > > I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking > TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. > > Which transceiver are you using? Display? > > Dave Saylor > AirCrafters > 140 Aviation Way > Watsonville, CA 95076 > 831-722-9141 Shop > 831-750-0284 Cell > > > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce <BGray@glasair.org> wrote: >> >> Woops, >> >> Here's the link to the AC, >> >> > http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC >> ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument >> >> >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:47:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    I think it's best for Experimental aviations future to install the stuff, do it to certified standards so it's done right and works properly/perfectly, and to NOT spend your time drawing attention by asking them (das fed) the questions in the first place. As we all know, there are too many who don't understand experimentals, and beyond that, different FSDO's interpret things differently. Many many questions can have a variety of answers. So long as that's the case, sometimes we're better off just doing things right and not inviting regulation by asking for clarification that could never be achieved without drafting newer, deeper reaching, regulation. It's tough enough as it is. ADS-B in isn't rocket science and it's not complicated to get a working system that will give you good traffic info and report your precise location exactly. Just read that AC and make sure you work to that level of accuracy and operability. Tim On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote: > > Another example of the FAA left hand not having a clue what the right hand is doing. Your transponder and GPS are TSO. That means the position information complies with the requirements. Your air data system has to meet a different regulation, and I assume it does if it passes an IFR static system check. > Too many FAA inspectors have no experience/training on experimental aircraft side of the house, and rather than linking you up with someone who does, try to bluff their way into making the problem go away. > Just read an idiot article today on the "new" air traffic system that once again says ADSB/Next Gen will replace radar. If that were true, we wouldn't be required to have either Mode A/C transponders or Mode S in addition to UAT. The FAA wouldn't have gone to the totally stupid dual frequency system. Also article said lots about airlines not wanting to spend the money, without one mention of GA and who pays for that. Grump, grump. > Maybe Das Fed (if he isn't too busy stomping out office brushfires) can shine some light on the subject for us and send something off to the author of the AC to remind them they need to deal with experimental installs as well if they want the air traffic system to retain integrity. Not that I want more fed involvement, but really is necessary on something that affects all aircraft. > > > > On 7/5/2011 8:00 AM, Bruce wrote: >> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >> >> Garmin 530W, Garmin 330 transponder updated for ADBS-B Out, and a RMI >> microencoder/air data unit. All are TSO'ed except the RMI air data >> system. >> >> I still believe it has to be approved because it transmits position data >> to ATC. We just can't install and turn it on, at least that's what the >> FSDO tells me. There is no in flight approved testing procedure in place >> yet, and no one has the ground testing equipment to verify the >> transmitted data blocks around here. >> >> Bruce >> WWW.Glasair.org >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor >> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:59 AM >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... >> >> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Saylor >> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> >> >> Hi Bruce, >> >> I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking >> TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. >> >> Which transceiver are you using? Display? >> >> Dave Saylor >> AirCrafters >> 140 Aviation Way >> Watsonville, CA 95076 >> 831-722-9141 Shop >> 831-750-0284 Cell >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce<BGray@glasair.org> wrote: >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >>> >>> Woops, >>> >>> Here's the link to the AC, >>> >>> >> http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/RGADVISORYCIRC >>> ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument >>> >>> >>> Bruce >>> WWW.Glasair.org >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:03:36 AM PST US
    From: David <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: ADS-B Transceiver...
    Wise words from Tim, IMHO David Maib 40559 Flying On Jul 5, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Tim Olson wrote: > > I think it's best for Experimental aviations future to install the > stuff, do it to certified standards so it's done right and works > properly/perfectly, and to NOT spend your time drawing attention by > asking them (das fed) the questions in the first place. As we all > know, there are too many who don't understand experimentals, and > beyond that, different FSDO's interpret things differently. Many > many questions can have a variety of answers. So long as that's > the case, sometimes we're better off just doing things right and > not inviting regulation by asking for clarification that could > never be achieved without drafting newer, deeper reaching, > regulation. It's tough enough as it is. ADS-B in isn't rocket > science and it's not complicated to get a working system that will > give you good traffic info and report your precise location > exactly. Just read that AC and make sure you work to that level of > accuracy and operability. > Tim > > > On Jul 5, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> > wrote: > >> >> Another example of the FAA left hand not having a clue what the >> right hand is doing. Your transponder and GPS are TSO. That means >> the position information complies with the requirements. Your air >> data system has to meet a different regulation, and I assume it >> does if it passes an IFR static system check. >> Too many FAA inspectors have no experience/training on >> experimental aircraft side of the house, and rather than linking >> you up with someone who does, try to bluff their way into making >> the problem go away. >> Just read an idiot article today on the "new" air traffic system >> that once again says ADSB/Next Gen will replace radar. If that >> were true, we wouldn't be required to have either Mode A/C >> transponders or Mode S in addition to UAT. The FAA wouldn't have >> gone to the totally stupid dual frequency system. Also article >> said lots about airlines not wanting to spend the money, without >> one mention of GA and who pays for that. Grump, grump. >> Maybe Das Fed (if he isn't too busy stomping out office >> brushfires) can shine some light on the subject for us and send >> something off to the author of the AC to remind them they need to >> deal with experimental installs as well if they want the air >> traffic system to retain integrity. Not that I want more fed >> involvement, but really is necessary on something that affects all >> aircraft. >> >> >> >> On 7/5/2011 8:00 AM, Bruce wrote: >>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >>> >>> Garmin 530W, Garmin 330 transponder updated for ADBS-B Out, and a >>> RMI >>> microencoder/air data unit. All are TSO'ed except the RMI air data >>> system. >>> >>> I still believe it has to be approved because it transmits >>> position data >>> to ATC. We just can't install and turn it on, at least that's >>> what the >>> FSDO tells me. There is no in flight approved testing procedure >>> in place >>> yet, and no one has the ground testing equipment to verify the >>> transmitted data blocks around here. >>> >>> Bruce >>> WWW.Glasair.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Saylor >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:59 AM >>> To: rv-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: ADS-B Transceiver... >>> >>> --> RV-List message posted by: Dave Saylor >>> <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com> >>> >>> Hi Bruce, >>> >>> I don't think the AC applies to us since it's only for those seeking >>> TC or STC approval--as you said, we don't have TCs or use STCs. >>> >>> Which transceiver are you using? Display? >>> >>> Dave Saylor >>> AirCrafters >>> 140 Aviation Way >>> Watsonville, CA 95076 >>> 831-722-9141 Shop >>> 831-750-0284 Cell >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Bruce<BGray@glasair.org> wrote: >>>> --> RV-List message posted by: "Bruce"<BGray@glasair.org> >>>> >>>> Woops, >>>> >>>> Here's the link to the AC, >>>> >>>> >>> http://www.airweb.faa.gov/REGULATORY_AND_GUIDANCE_LIBRARY/ >>> RGADVISORYCIRC >>>> ULAR.NSF/0/4D934250FE568A79862577310060CF03?OpenDocument >>>> >>>> >>>> Bruce >>>> WWW.Glasair.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 01:10:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: adjusting cooling baffles
    From: David Burnham <daverv6a@gmail.com>
    Here is a picture of the "cowl insullation material" stuck to my #1 cylinder. Have 3 degree higher on #3 vs #1 - this weekend at 97F OAT - #3 running at 354F - Oil temp doesn't go over 185F winter or summer. Doesn't take much tape to affect #3 temps. Dave Burnham RV6A Madison, AL On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mike Robertson <mrobert569@hotmail.com>wrote: > What you speak of has merit. I lower the oil temps over 5 degrees by just > adding two layers of baffle rubber material between the oil cooler and the > baffle wall. That effectively moved the oil cooler away from #4 by 1/8 inch > allowing much more cool air to get to the oil cooler. > > Mike Robertson > > ------------------------------ > Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 08:32:53 -0700 > > Subject: Re: RV-List: adjusting cooling baffles > From: sarg314@gmail.com > > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > Looking at the oil cooler - installed according to plans - I note that the > lowest 1 inch of the opening to the oil cooler is directly behind the > cooling fins of cyl #4 . Is air heated by the fins going thru the oil > cooler? Has any one experimented with a small baffle there to block the aft > side of the fins on #4 so that the air can't so easily get to the oil cooler > there? I've noticed that once the oil tempo gets high it takes a long time > (~10 minutes) to bring it down. Maybe this is why. > > I managed to get a 1/16" thick washer on the screw between the rear baffle > and cyl #3. It took a fair bit of fiddling, but it's there now. I will try > some tape on #1. > > -- > Tom Sargent > > * > > get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > * > > * > >




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