---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/08/11: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:52 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Scott) 2. 07:43 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Greg Young) 3. 09:15 AM - Re: RV8-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (William L. Paulin) 4. 09:15 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Jeff Luckey) 5. 09:49 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Matt Dralle) 6. 09:55 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Timothy E. Cone) 7. 10:10 AM - Re: Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Robin Marks) 8. 10:12 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Robin Marks) 9. 10:26 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Matt Dralle) 10. 11:31 AM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Jeff Luckey) 11. 12:32 PM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Matt Dralle) 12. 08:38 PM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (RV6 Flyer) 13. 08:39 PM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (RV6 Flyer) 14. 10:52 PM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Bob Mills) 15. 11:30 PM - Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:52:38 AM PST US From: Scott Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Wait a minute!!! I see a -4 in there! :) On 7-8-2011 02:57, Matt Dralle wrote: > Fellow RVers, > > If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... -- ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:43:23 AM PST US From: "Greg Young" Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... There's an Extra in there too. Still a cool shot. From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 5:47 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Wait a minute!!! I see a -4 in there! :) On 7-8-2011 02:57, Matt Dralle wrote: Fellow RVers, If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... -- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:17 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: Re: RV8-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... From: "William L. Paulin" Nice Log Matt, but sorry for the occasion. That had to be a very violent event ... seeing all the damage. Good work in saving the landing as much as you did. As to your lessons, I certainly agree with your "don't try to make the turn-off." But is there another lesson? In addition to a maximum crosswind component (especially for tail draggers), should we have a simple maximum wind speed limit? ... or maybe a maximum gust component (e.g., Vgust - Vsteady)? Any gust is bound to not be dead nuts down the centerline ... and should produce differential lift that is hard to handle until the airplane is fully planted and slowed ... again, especially in a tail dragger, but also in a nose dragger. Bill *********************************** William & Sandra Paulin 1575 South Forest Drive Prescott, AZ 86303 Bill Cell +1 858 722 2905 Office +1 760 720 2905 Europe +358 40 720 4047 wpaulin@usa.net Sandy Cell +1 858 349 1729 Office +1 928 443 7739 On Jul 7, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Matt Dralle wrote: Fellow RVers, If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:17 AM PST US From: "Jeff Luckey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. Does anyone know the photographer?? -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 19:58 Subject: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Fellow RVers, If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:32 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... At 08:21 AM 7/8/2011 Friday, you wrote: >Ah, never mind. Now I see your rebuild web page. I didn't know you had the mishap. Glad you're okay and that the gear didn't fold. >Good luck with your rebuild. Maybe add a nose wheel like mine? : ) >Stan Sutterfield > >In a message dated 7/8/2011 3:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Matt Dralle writes: >Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt Yeah, its quite the bummer. I figure about 1172 hours to rebuild. Let me tell you, it has been really emotionally difficult to deconstruct a mostly perfect fuselage. Every time I un-build a different part of the old fuselage salvaging parts to put on the new fuselage, I am reminded of all the work involved in building one of these airplanes. But, this week I actually started real construction on the new fuselage and that felt good. Also, a lot of the replacement parts (wiring, connectors, etc) started arriving this week and getting presents in the mail always cheers me up. :-) Be careful out there. The RVs seem really stout, but they're really pretty fragile. I wasn't going that fast and the mishap really wasn't that big of a deal - I see guys in C-150's doing stuff like it all the time - but the damage can be disproportionately great. Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:33 AM PST US From: "Timothy E. Cone" Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Yup, I know the photographer and all of the guys in the pic except two. It's real. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Luckey" Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. > The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. > > Does anyone know the photographer?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 19:58 > To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > Fellow RVers, > > If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, > check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang > leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was > rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:10:05 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV-List: Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Most GA airplanes are flying beer cans. Treat them as such. Robin -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:43 AM Subject: RV-List: Re: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... At 08:21 AM 7/8/2011 Friday, you wrote: >Ah, never mind. Now I see your rebuild web page. I didn't know you had the mishap. Glad you're okay and that the gear didn't fold. >Good luck with your rebuild. Maybe add a nose wheel like mine? : ) >Stan Sutterfield > >In a message dated 7/8/2011 3:09:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Matt Dralle writes: >Makes me wish my RV-8 was rebuilt Yeah, its quite the bummer. I figure about 1172 hours to rebuild. Let me tell you, it has been really emotionally difficult to deconstruct a mostly perfect fuselage. Every time I un-build a different part of the old fuselage salvaging parts to put on the new fuselage, I am reminded of all the work involved in building one of these airplanes. But, this week I actually started real construction on the new fuselage and that felt good. Also, a lot of the replacement parts (wiring, connectors, etc) started arriving this week and getting presents in the mail always cheers me up. :-) Be careful out there. The RVs seem really stout, but they're really pretty fragile. I wasn't going that fast and the mishap really wasn't that big of a deal - I see guys in C-150's doing stuff like it all the time - but the damage can be disproportionately great. Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:12:02 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Is that a 3/4 scale P-51? I do see flaps deployed on the lead so us pesky little RV's can keep up. R -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Timothy E. Cone Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:51 AM Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Yup, I know the photographer and all of the guys in the pic except two. It's real. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Luckey" Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. > The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. > > Does anyone know the photographer?? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 19:58 > To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > Fellow RVers, > > If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, > check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang > leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was > rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) > > Matt > > - > Matt Dralle > RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" > http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log > http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log > http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel > Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:26:12 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Full-sized. Here's some info on that particular P-51 in the picture: http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/pages/44-84900.shtml Matt At 10:07 AM 7/8/2011 Friday, you wrote: > >Is that a 3/4 scale P-51? I do see flaps deployed on the lead so us pesky >little RV's can keep up. > >R > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Timothy E. Cone >Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:51 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > >Yup, > >I know the photographer and all of the guys in the pic except two. > >It's real. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Luckey" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM >Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > >> >> No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. >> The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. >> >> Does anyone know the photographer?? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 19:58 >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... >> >> Fellow RVers, >> >> If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, >> check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang >> leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was >> rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) >> >> Matt >> >> - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:31:34 AM PST US From: "Jeff Luckey" Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Matt, So sorry to hear about your incident. I can only imagine the horror of seeing the damage when you climbed out of the plane. (I'm building a 7A) This got me to thinking... You mentioned that your plane has aftermarket landing gear. Is it possible that the gear was "too strong" so that instead of sacrificing the gear struts, the energy was transferred to the airframe? Would stock landing gear have bent & saved the fuse? Engineering minds want to know... -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:18 Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Full-sized. Here's some info on that particular P-51 in the picture: http://www.mustangsmustangs.com/p-51/survivors/pages/44-84900.shtml Matt At 10:07 AM 7/8/2011 Friday, you wrote: > >Is that a 3/4 scale P-51? I do see flaps deployed on the lead so us pesky >little RV's can keep up. > >R > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Timothy E. Cone >Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:51 AM >To: rv-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > >Yup, > >I know the photographer and all of the guys in the pic except two. > >It's real. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jeff Luckey" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:09 AM >Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > > >> >> No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. >> The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. >> >> Does anyone know the photographer?? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle >> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 19:58 >> To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv8-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... >> >> Fellow RVers, >> >> If you feeling like you needed a little inspiration on that RV project, >> check out the attached photo. What an awesome shot of a P-51 Mustang >> leading a flight of 7 RVs!! Totally cool! Makes me wish my RV-8 was >> rebuilt. But then, what doesn't... ;-) >> >> Matt >> >> - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:11 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... At 11:22 AM 7/8/2011 Friday, you wrote: > >Matt, > >So sorry to hear about your incident. I can only imagine the horror of >seeing the damage when you climbed out of the plane. (I'm building a 7A) >This got me to thinking... > >You mentioned that your plane has aftermarket landing gear. > >Is it possible that the gear was "too strong" so that instead of sacrificing >the gear struts, the energy was transferred to the airframe? > >Would stock landing gear have bent & saved the fuse? > >Engineering minds want to know... When I showed the pictures to Van's they commented that they were surprised that the gear leg didn't break off. So, it would seem that the gear leg breaking off would have perhaps reduced or eliminated the fuselage damage around the gear leg mount. BUT, if the gear leg had broken, the other damage would have probably been a lot worse. For example the prop would have hit the ground and damaged it, the engine would have required tear down, the left wing would have sustained much more damage, and the risk of flipping over would have been a lot greater which would have caused a substantial amount more damage. The real question I guess is if the gear leg had broken, would the alternate damage repair have taken 1172 hours? Had to say at this point, I suppose. Matt - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:38:38 PM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... Yes it is real. 6 or 8 years ago we put up a 10 or 12-RV formation at Mason City Iowa with Doug Rosendall in a P-51. An RV and P-51 can fly together. It has been do ne before and will be done again. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C505+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: robin@PaintTheWeb.com > Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 10:07:33 -0700 > Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > To: rv-list@matronics.com > > > Is that a 3/4 scale P-51? I do see flaps deployed on the lead so us pesky > little RV's can keep up. > > R ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:39:56 PM PST US From: RV6 Flyer Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... I know the photog. Her husband flys for SouthWest and is retired Air Force. They have a 200 H P RV-6A. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C505+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA > From: JLuckey@pacbell.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > Date: Fri=2C 8 Jul 2011 09:09:29 -0700 > > > No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. > The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. > > Does anyone know the photographer?? > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:52:48 PM PST US From: "Bob Mills" Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... I'll vouch for its authenticity too (like Slick and Condor). (I was the red RV on the Mustang's right wing). This was following a multi-ship fly-by of the Boulder City 4th of July parade. We had a 7-ship of RVs in a Delta with Stinger, followed by a CJ-6 leading a T-6 and an Extra in a Vic, followed by the Mustang in trail. After the fly-by we reformed over Lake Mead (T-6 and CJ departed) and shot a bunch of photos from the lead RV, who flew over the other 6 RVs and the Extra all in Echelon on the Mustang. In looking at the photos, we all commented on how surreal the airplanes look over the washed out terrain around Lake Mead. But it's for real! It was a fun hop, and if you'd like to see more pics from that day and from other West Coast Raven events, check the photographer's website out here: http://web.me.com/swawife/Site/KBVU_-_May-July.2011/KBVU_-_May-July.2011.htm l And yes, the Merlin sounds pretty cool from the wing! :-) Cheers, Bob _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV6 Flyer Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 8:37 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... I know the photog. Her husband flys for SouthWest and is retired Air Force. They have a 200 HP RV-6A. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,505+ Flying Hours So. CA, USA > From: JLuckey@pacbell.net > To: rv-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... > Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2011 09:09:29 -0700 > > > No doubt that's a cool picture - but I wonder if it is authentic. > The lighting on the 51 looks suspect to me. > > Does anyone know the photographer?? > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:30:15 PM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... AWESOME. Thanks for the link. Robin Do Not Archive *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Bob Mills *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 10:45 PM *To:* rv-list@matronics.com *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... I'll vouch for its authenticity too (like Slick and Condor). (I was the red RV on the Mustang's right wing). This was following a multi-ship fly-by of the Boulder City 4th of July parade. We had a 7-ship of RVs in a Delta with Stinger, followed by a CJ-6 leading a T-6 and an Extra in a Vic, followed by the Mustang in trail. After the fly-by we reformed over Lake Mead (T-6 and CJ departed) and shot a bunch of photos from the lead RV, who flew over the other 6 RVs and the Extra all in Echelon on the Mustang. In looking at the photos, we all commented on how surreal the airplanes look over the washed out terrain around Lake Mead. But it's for real! It was a fun hop, and if you'd like to see more pics from that day and from other West Coast Raven events, check the photographer's website out here: http://web.me.com/swawife/Site/KBVU_-_May-July.2011/KBVU_-_May-July.2011.html And yes, the Merlin sounds pretty cool from the wing! :-) Cheers, Bob ------------------------------ *From:* owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *RV6 Flyer *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 8:37 PM *To:* RV List *Subject:* RE: RV-List: Inspiration - Ultimate Air-To-Air Shot... I know the photog. Her husband flys for SouthWest and is retired Air Force. They have a 200 HP RV-6A. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell, 2,505+ Flying Hours So. 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