---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 08/14/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:12 AM - Re: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! (Tom & Cathy Ervin) 2. 04:10 PM - Bucking Bar Recommendation... (Matt Dralle) 3. 06:11 PM - Whirlwind 200 RV Prop experience (Bill Judge) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:12:40 AM PST US From: Tom & Cathy Ervin Subject: Re: RV-List: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Matt, Don't forget lightSpeed. I have had very good luck with the 2 sets I've purchased....no problems, light weight and generous trade up program. Tom in Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Dralle" Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 9:12:08 PM Subject: RV-List: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X or A20 Active NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically these units: http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came with 6 feet of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a little short. Now 3 feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose marketing decided "three feet should be plenty". Here's quote from the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness with six pin female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach "locations throughout the aircraft". That's just plain stupid. If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to penny pinching, but for a >$1000 product that you then have to spend an additional $32 for an installation cable, cheaping out on the cable length is just simply unacceptable. I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables don't even reach to the righthand control console. What does Bose expect people to do; splice the wire? That's ridiculous! What would somebody installing in the back seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do? Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm sure they will write back with "for most of our customers, three feet is sufficient". Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new Sennheiser S1 if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support stereo. It must have been the same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables that decided not to include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable. Matt - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:16 PM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Bucking Bar Recommendation... Dear Listers, After nearly 23 years of building metal airplanes on and off, I finally came across a really nice bucking bar. The part number details are below and I've attached a picture of it with the optional 6.5" Dolly Shank attached (recommended). The handle has a vibration absorbing mechanism inside and it makes riveting almost a pleasure. It really works good. I was truly amazed at how much more comfortable it is riveting using the tool. If you've got even a modest amount of riveting left to do on your project, surf over to the US Tool web site and order up one. You won't be sorry! I don't get any kick back (pun intended) from US Tool; I'm just a very stratified customer. US Tool - TP111R - Recoilless Bucking Bar - All Steel: https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 41 US Tool - 31021-3 - 6.5" Dolly Shank: https://www.ustool.com/store/cart.php?m=product_detail&p 80 Matt - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:19 PM PST US From: Bill Judge Subject: RV-List: Whirlwind 200 RV Prop experience Greetings, I've been running a 200 RV since about April of 2009. I had a sensenich fixed pitch before that and the WW has been a really welcomed improvement in economy and cockpit noise. I went from 2500 RPM/7.5 gph to 2000 RPM/6.5 gph doing 160 knots which made long range trips much more comfortable from a fuel reserve and noise perspective. I may not have made the trip to Aruba 2 years ago had I not make the upgrade so all in all this is a fantastic prop. Last November on a 4 hr XC I noticed few very small black spots on the windscreen and I figured that it was oil from my front seal which has leaked before but it was actually grease from the prop hub. This gradually got worse, to the point I was cleaning the windscreen after each flight, so after my round trip across the country in July I decided to pull it off and send it back for service. TT in service was 315 hrs. I called Ameritech (American Propeller) who sold me the prop. Todd there said it needed to be resealed and wasn't under warranty any longer. The charges would be anywhere from $874 for a basic reseal to $1408 for an overhaul. This included them coming and picking up the prop at Gillespie, my home field. Just before Ameritech came to pick the prop up I called the WW factory in OH and they wanted to see the prop. They offered to zero time the propeller if I would pay round trip shipping. So I shipped the prop to Ohio, they turned it around in less than a week and I paid $292 for shipping and about $100 for packing supplies on this end to package the prop. I asked if WW could repaint the blades while it was getting serviced and they said either way they would polish the nickel leading edges but it would be ~$1400 and a 4 week delay to paint the blades. My blades are in pretty good shape so I opted to just run with the way they are now. As an aside, part of Ameritech's $1408 overhaul would have included getting the blades sanded down and repainted. After they did the work on the prop I asked if there was any reason that it started leaking, they didn't see any reason but they have changed to a different type of O-ring and that may make a difference. I got the prop and I had forgotten how great the prop looks when the leading edge is polished up. It look fantastic and is now back at zero time. Anyway, summary: Whirlwind in Ohio has opted to stand behind their product even though it was out of warranty, which I thought was commendable. VR, Bill Judge N84WJ, RV-8, 653 hrs rv-8.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.