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1. 01:19 PM - Re: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! (Tim Olson)
2. 04:21 PM - Paint air water separator (Carl Froehlich)
3. 05:06 PM - Re: Paint air water separator (Ed Holyoke)
4. 05:14 PM - Re: Paint air water separator (Jeff Luckey)
5. 07:12 PM - Re: Paint air water separator (Carl Froehlich)
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| Subject: | Re: Warning - New Bose Line Power Cables Only 3' Long! |
Matt,
I'd have to agree that the lack of A2DP profile was a stupid
move. That said, I have a PMA8000BT audio panel (for ISO/Crew/All
seats) and also a pair of Belkin Aircast Auto pucks for Bluetooth
for the rear seat users. Those Belkin devices for under $80
are a great way to go for bluetooth stereo to your headsets.
I'm not a fan of cords of any type, but honestly I don't see
much value in a bluetooth headset unless you typically
fly alone. Most people will want to share the music and
share the experience, and that's much easier with a bluetooth
intercom, or that belkin adapter plugged into your standard
intercom. So I'd just go down that route and you'll
probably be happier. The only pain with the Belkin way
would be if you frequently use the cellphone and also music...if
you do that, I'd recommend the intercom route instead.
I'd also agree that 3' is kind of short for those install cables,
and 6' would be a bit more practical, but considering that most
people will install them right next to existing jacks, I
can see why they go that route. Personally, I'd rather see
them sold both ways, with a $5 upcharge for the 6' cord.
I don't know that any longer than that is good though....those
wires are awfully thin to run with the rest of the wire runs.
In my plane, I only needed 12", so 3' was even overkill.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
On 8/13/2011 8:12 PM, Matt Dralle wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle<dralle@matronics.com>
>
>
> Just a heads up to those installing or planning on installing Bose X
> or A20 Active NR headsets using the inline power jacks. Specifically
> these units:
>
> http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/aviation_headsets/accessories/headset_installkit_acc.jsp
>
> They now come with only 3 feet of cable! Three years ago they came
> with 6 feet of cable and I thought at the time that 6 feet seemed a
> little short. Now 3 feet? What idiot penny pincher in Bose
> marketing decided "three feet should be plenty". Here's quote from
> the Bose web page above: "Three-foot wiring harness with six pin
> female connector allows for *placement in locations throughout
> aircraft*." WTF? On what planet will a 3-foot hardness reach
> "locations throughout the aircraft". That's just plain stupid.
>
> If these were third rate, el-cheapo headsets, I'd write it off to
> penny pinching, but for a>$1000 product that you then have to spend
> an additional $32 for an installation cable, cheaping out on the
> cable length is just simply unacceptable.
>
> I have the jacks mounted in the center of the RV-8, and the cables
> don't even reach to the righthand control console. What does Bose
> expect people to do; splice the wire? That's ridiculous! What would
> somebody installing in the back seats of a 4 or 6 place airplane do?
>
> Of course I wrote a scathing email to Bose Support just now. I'm
> sure they will write back with "for most of our customers, three feet
> is sufficient".
>
> Given this direction within Bose, I'd definitely consider the new
> Sennheiser S1 if I had to do it over again. Additionally, the
> Sennheiser's Bluetooth supports the A2DP, AVRCP STEREO profiles. The
> Bose A20's Bluetooth does NOT support stereo. It must have been the
> same marketing moron that dictated 3' cables that decided not to
> include stereo Bluetooth profiles. Unbelievable.
>
> Matt
>
>
> - Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing
> Mishap...
>
>
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| Subject: | Paint air water separator |
For those of you doing your own painting, attached photo is a water
separator that I find to work well. When painting I add a few blocks of ice
to the water. In the photo the red hose is air in, the orange hose is air
out. The drain valve is connected at the bottom of the vertical PVC pipe.
The vertical pipe acts as a water collector.
Carl
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| Subject: | Re: Paint air water separator |
That's pretty cool, Carl. I have one caveat, though. PVC has been known
to explode and the shards aren't visible in X-rays. I'd use copper for
the riser.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
On 8/15/2011 4:18 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> For those of you doing your own painting, attached photo is a water
> separator that I find to work well. When painting I add a few blocks
> of ice to the water. In the photo the red hose is air in, the orange
> hose is air out. The drain valve is connected at the bottom of the
> vertical PVC pipe. The vertical pipe acts as a water collector.
>
> Carl
>
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| Subject: | Paint air water separator |
That's pretty cool :)!
It's difficult to see in the picture but I assume that the condenser coil's
output intersects the vertical pipe a few inches from its bottom?
Questions:
1. how much water is collected after an hour of spraying?
2. What part of the country are you in?
3. relative humidity, temp/dew point spread?
4. Any idea what the pressure drop thru the device is? (tank pressure
vs gun pressure?)
5. How many pounds of ice do you typically use & how long does it last
at what ambient temp?
I know, waaaay too many questions.
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 16:18
Subject: RV-List: Paint air water separator
For those of you doing your own painting, attached photo is a water
separator that I find to work well. When painting I add a few blocks of ice
to the water. In the photo the red hose is air in, the orange hose is air
out. The drain valve is connected at the bottom of the vertical PVC pipe.
The vertical pipe acts as a water collector.
Carl
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| Subject: | Paint air water separator |
Sorry - I did not bother to do performance measurements.
This is the fourth drain in my air system. Before adding this to the first
three I got water to the gun. With it I don't. I shot primer today on the
RV-10 cabin top and cowl in hot, humid Fredericksburg Virginia.
Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Luckey
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Paint air water separator
That's pretty cool :)!
It's difficult to see in the picture but I assume that the condenser coil's
output intersects the vertical pipe a few inches from its bottom?
Questions:
1. how much water is collected after an hour of spraying?
2. What part of the country are you in?
3. relative humidity, temp/dew point spread?
4. Any idea what the pressure drop thru the device is? (tank pressure
vs gun pressure?)
5. How many pounds of ice do you typically use & how long does it last
at what ambient temp?
I know, waaaay too many questions.
_____
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 16:18
Subject: RV-List: Paint air water separator
For those of you doing your own painting, attached photo is a water
separator that I find to work well. When painting I add a few blocks of ice
to the water. In the photo the red hose is air in, the orange hose is air
out. The drain valve is connected at the bottom of the vertical PVC pipe.
The vertical pipe acts as a water collector.
Carl
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