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1. 06:44 AM - Canopy leaks (Vince Frazier)
2. 07:06 AM - Re: Canopy leaks (Bob)
3. 07:35 AM - Re: canopy leaks (David Cudney)
4. 08:16 AM - Re: Canopy leaks (Dale Ensing)
5. 08:47 AM - Re: Canopy leaks (Tracy)
6. 09:31 AM - Re: Canopy leaks (Bob)
7. 10:51 AM - Re: Canopy leaks (Dan Bergeron)
8. 11:38 AM - Re: Eating Alternators... (Eric Whiteside)
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A simple, cheap, and surefire way to keep water out is to simply carry
a roll of decent quality electrical tape. If it looks like rain,
simply place a piece of tape over the canopy joints and fuel caps.
Electrical tape will peel off cleanly and doesn't adhere aggressively
enough to lift paint. Unless your paint is crappy anyway.
Another benefit is that you won't have a canopy cover taking up space
when stored, nor will the tape cause any wear like a flapping, dirty
canopy cover can.
Thanks,
Vince Frazier
Flyboy Accessories
3963 Caborn Road North
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839
1-888-8FLYBOY
1-888-835-9269
www.flyboyaccessories.com
>
> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking my
> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp for a
> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was wondering if
> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light travel
> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
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Subject: | Re: Canopy leaks |
Years ago on my RV6, I used pieces of static cling sun shade cut into
squares, rectangles and strips to seal the leading edge of the tip up
canopy, cover the fuel caps and the NACA air vents on the side of the
fuselage. As long is the surface is dry when applied, the pieces stayed
on. I remember putting a piece across the gap between the hood and
fender on my Explorer and driving down a gravel road at 50 mph. The
piece stayed on. Even after buying a canopy cover, I still used the sun
shade pieces over the gas caps and vents and never had any of the pieces
come off.
Bob Skinner-former RV6 builder and owner 1995-2000
>> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking my
>> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp for a
>> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was wondering if
>> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light travel
>> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
>
>
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Subject: | Re: canopy leaks |
I've used the light weight Van's cover on my RV fro the last three
years with no problem it is compact and easy to use and has kept
things dry.
dave RV 7A
On Nov 17, 2011, at 11:04 AM, Matt Tucciarone wrote:
> >
>
> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about
> taking my newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be
> parked on a ramp for a few days. I did not get a canopy cover with
> the plane and was wondering if the -8's take in water when it rains?
> Also does anyone use the Light travel canopy cover that Vans sells
> and does it keep out the rain?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy leaks |
Where did you purchase the static cling sheets?
Sent from my iPad
On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Bob <Deerlake@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> Years ago on my RV6, I used pieces of static cling sun shade cut into squares,
rectangles and strips to seal the leading edge of the tip up canopy, cover the
fuel caps and the NACA air vents on the side of the fuselage. As long is the
surface is dry when applied, the pieces stayed on. I remember putting a piece
across the gap between the hood and fender on my Explorer and driving down
a gravel road at 50 mph. The piece stayed on. Even after buying a canopy cover,
I still used the sun shade pieces over the gas caps and vents and never had
any of the pieces come off.
>
> Bob Skinner-former RV6 builder and owner 1995-2000
>
>>> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking my
>>> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp for a
>>> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was wondering if
>>> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light travel
>>> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Matt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy leaks |
My RV-8 was parked 40 feet in front of those 3 Pietenpols That were rolled u
p in a ball during the torrential rain and tornado at Sun & Fun this year.
Even without a cover the cockpit and fwd baggage area was bone dry afterwar
ds. My -4 cockpit gets drenched in a light rain without a cover though.
Tracy Crook
On Nov 18, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A simple, cheap, and surefire way to keep water out is to simply carry
> a roll of decent quality electrical tape. If it looks like rain,
> simply place a piece of tape over the canopy joints and fuel caps.
>
> Electrical tape will peel off cleanly and doesn't adhere aggressively
> enough to lift paint. Unless your paint is crappy anyway.
>
> Another benefit is that you won't have a canopy cover taking up space
> when stored, nor will the tape cause any wear like a flapping, dirty
> canopy cover can.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Frazier
> Flyboy Accessories
> 3963 Caborn Road North
> Mount Vernon, IN 47620
> 812-464-1839
> 1-888-8FLYBOY
> 1-888-835-9269
> www.flyboyaccessories.com
>
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>> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking m
y
>> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp for
a
>> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was wondering i
f
>> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light trav
el
>> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Matt
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Subject: | Re: Canopy leaks |
At Walmart if I remember correctly. I used the same stuff on the top of
my canopy to keep my bald head from getting burned & it worked well.
Bob Skinner
On 11/18/2011 9:12 AM, Dale Ensing wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Dale Ensing<densing@carolina.rr.com>
>
> Where did you purchase the static cling sheets?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Bob<Deerlake@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob<Deerlake@bresnan.net>
>>
>> Years ago on my RV6, I used pieces of static cling sun shade cut into squares,
rectangles and strips to seal the leading edge of the tip up canopy, cover
the fuel caps and the NACA air vents on the side of the fuselage. As long is
the surface is dry when applied, the pieces stayed on. I remember putting a piece
across the gap between the hood and fender on my Explorer and driving down
a gravel road at 50 mph. The piece stayed on. Even after buying a canopy cover,
I still used the sun shade pieces over the gas caps and vents and never
had any of the pieces come off.
>>
>> Bob Skinner-former RV6 builder and owner 1995-2000
>>
>>>> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking my
>>>> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp for
a
>>>> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was wondering if
>>>> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light travel
>>>> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Matt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Canopy leaks |
Matt:
I've been flying my RV-7A for two years and two months since first flight
on Aug 6, 2009. At home it sleeps in a hangar but on overnight cross
countries it gets tied down on the ramp, where we use Vans' lightweight
canopy cover. I recall one occasion where there was heavy rain overnight;
the cockpit and behind the panel remained bone dry with the cover in place.
On another occasion however the cover was dislodged to one side in a
windstorm; no rain on that occasion so no issue with water. I've since run
extra lines from each edge of the canopy cover and tie them off at the
landing gear/fuselage intersection. So far - so good.
Dan Bergeron
RV-7A - N307TB
273 hours since 8/6/11
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Bob <Deerlake@bresnan.net> wrote:
>
> At Walmart if I remember correctly. I used the same stuff on the top of
> my canopy to keep my bald head from getting burned & it worked well.
>
> Bob Skinner
>
>
> On 11/18/2011 9:12 AM, Dale Ensing wrote:
>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Dale Ensing<densing@carolina.rr.com**>
>>
>> Where did you purchase the static cling sheets?
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Nov 18, 2011, at 10:03 AM, Bob<Deerlake@bresnan.net> wrote:
>>
>> --> RV-List message posted by: Bob<Deerlake@bresnan.net>
>>>
>>> Years ago on my RV6, I used pieces of static cling sun shade cut into
>>> squares, rectangles and strips to seal the leading edge of the tip up
>>> canopy, cover the fuel caps and the NACA air vents on the side of the
>>> fuselage. As long is the surface is dry when applied, the pieces stayed
>>> on. I remember putting a piece across the gap between the hood and fender
>>> on my Explorer and driving down a gravel road at 50 mph. The piece stayed
>>> on. Even after buying a canopy cover, I still used the sun shade pieces
>>> over the gas caps and vents and never had any of the pieces come off.
>>>
>>> Bob Skinner-former RV6 builder and owner 1995-2000
>>>
>>> This my be a stupid question but here goes. I was thinking about taking
>>>>> my
>>>>> newly bought RV-8 on a trip where it will have to be parked on a ramp
>>>>> for a
>>>>> few days. I did not get a canopy cover with the plane and was
>>>>> wondering if
>>>>> the -8's take in water when it rains? Also does anyone use the Light
>>>>> travel
>>>>> canopy cover that Vans sells and does it keep out the rain?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Eating Alternators... |
Hi Ken,
The volt meter indications may provide the more meaningful data in
diagnosing your problem. A fully charged battery, by itself, can only
produce a max of about 12.5 volts, and this will decline as loads
increase and/or the battery discharges. With the alternator field switch
OFF, you would expect to see roughly between 12.5 and 11.8 volts,
depending on load and state of battery charge. With the engine turning
at 1000 rpm or above, and alternator field switch ON, you say you are
showing 14.5 volts. If this is the case, and it stays fairly constant as
you switch loads (radios, lights, etc) on and off, the
alternator/regulator would have to be functioning. If that is the case,
your problem is most likely a bad connection or cable. As others have
suggested, prime suspects would be the engine case to fuselage ground
strap, or the alternator<->master contactor<->battery<->fuselage ground
cables. Assuming your electrical system was trouble free prior to the
recent problem, you might want to check for corrosion and secure
mechanical fastening at all terminals (including terminal to wire
crimps). Also check the alternator field switch and wiring. An
intermittent connection or bad switch could cause the symptoms observed.
Alternatively, you could have a failing device(radio, motor, pitot
heater, etc) or intermittent short circuit to ground that is producing a
fluctuating load.
I may be overlooking something, or making a faulty assumption, so be
sure to consider all suggestions offered by others. Lots of good help
is also available on the AeroElectric List.
Good luck,
Eric Whiteside
RV6
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kellems
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Eating Alternators...
Ken, I had almost the same thing happen on my RV3 ... I decided to
rewire after the 2nd alternator (internal regulators) and in the
process found the heavy wire from the alternator to the ammeter/ breaker
had a "hot" spot in it that was brittle and barely joined by a few
strands. The only thing holding it together was the "skin" . It tested
good continuity but was in fact not letting the full amount of
electricity through and would somehow burn the alternator up in short
order. Replacing the wire fixed the problem and cured the bounce/jitter
in the gauge.
Might not be your issue but, wouldn't hurt to check.
...Mike
DNA....
--- On Thu, 11/17/11, Ken Cantrell <kcflyrv@comcast.net> wrote:
From: Ken Cantrell <kcflyrv@comcast.net>
Subject: RV-List: Eating Alternators...
Listers,
I have put 1175 hours on my RV6 over the last 10 years and I=99m
currently having serious alternator problems.
I have Vans =9Csteam=9D engine gauges including an analog
ammeter and voltage meter. While cruising at altitude about a month ago
I noticed my ammeter start to =9Cquiver=9D a lot. After
dancing back and forth from neg to positive, it finally went solid to
the negative side. I figured I lost my alternator but wasn=99t too
concerned. I turned off my strobes to save battery life and headed home.
My battery had plenty of life for my radio and transponder.
I removed my alternator, had it checked (it was dead) and bought a new
one.
After about 5 hours on the replacement, the same scenario occurred. I
talked to others more knowledgeable than me (just about everyone) and
elected to install another one just in case it was a bad alternator. You
guessed it; same thing happened. BTW, before changing out the first
alternator, I checked all electrical connections to see if I could find
anything loose and could not. The only thing I found was the nut
attaching the heavy gauge line from the positive battery to the master
relay was snug but not tight. There was also a little residue on the
master relay that looked like it may have =98arced=99 at
some time. I sinched down the nut and hoped that was my problem.
I am now on my 3rd alternator in a month. This time, I bought a
=9CPlane Power=9D one from Vans. Yesterday, my ammeter
started the boogie dance again. I shut off the alternator by turning off
my field switch on my panel for a while and periodically turned it back
on to charge the battery. But after it was on for a while, the ammeter
started to quiver and dance as it has done before just before it failed.
In all three cases, when the alternator is on, the battery is showing
14.5 volts. Also, all 3 alternators have internal voltage regulators.
Any and all suggestions / advice is much appreciated.
Ken Cantrell
Lodi, CA
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