---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 11/29/11: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:11 AM - Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... (Matt Dralle) 1. 05:34 AM - Re: Re: Detaching the Fuel Tank (Denis Walsh) 2. 11:12 AM - Fuel Tank Leaks (Ian Brown) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:26 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: RV-List: Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... Dear Listers, There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support and camaraderie you have found here. 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Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others for advice. Good job! Bob M. Kolb List is my #1 source! Henry V. Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the beginning! John M. I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List. Arthur L. Thank you for the service you provide us all! Nicholas C. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:33 AM PST US From: Denis Walsh Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: Detaching the Fuel Tank Well said. Two sentences covered it all. The more I run on the greater the chance of error. Thanks. On Nov 29, 2011, at 12:24 AM, Chris Hand wrote: > > Close, but don't need to remove the rear spar bolt to pull just the tank. Just the screws, bolt at leading edge under wing root fairing, and the tank connections mentioned below. > > Chris > > On Nov 28, 2011, at 2:30 PM, Denis Walsh wrote: > >> >> >> Denis Walsh >> denis.walsh@comcast.net >> >> I have had the honor to perform this task numerous times. >> >> There are no rear-baffle-to-spar-bolts on the six wing tank, so you are almost done. >> >> There is a bolt at the front and rear on the inboard side. These attach the inboard tank rib to the airplane. In the front it is a bracket, and in the rear it is a tongue fitting in to the fuselage carry through aft spar. You must remove the wing fairing to get to these. >> >> Even when you get all those fasteners out there are still some traps. >> >> there are a bunch of those screws which are dimpled these dimpled holes do not want to let go of the recessed holes they go in to. you sometimes have to persuade them with a sliding piece of shim material. I use a plastic putty knife to pry the skins up a little to clear the dimples. >> >> Further traps include: forgetting to unscrew and disengage the fuel lines and vent lines, and lastly the fuel level sender wire. >> >> Good luck. The fun is just beginning. wait til you drill holes in the aft baffle and start cleaning out the pro seal. >> >> On Nov 28, 2011, at 3:10 , Matt Dralle wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> At 01:34 PM 11/28/2011 Monday, you wrote: >>>> --> RV6-List message posted by: George Nielsen >>>> >>>> Does anyone know how I can detach or remove the fuel tanks from the wings? I unscrewed the screws on the wing but the tank refuses to budge. >>>> >>>> Due to a fuel leak I need to remove the starboard tank. Fuel was dripping from the trailing edge of the wing root. >>>> >>>> Thanks. >>>> >>>> George Nielsen >>>> RV-6 PH-XGN >>>> The Hague, the Netherlands >>> >>> >>> Hi George, >>> >>> I think there might be a hand full of AN3 bolts that you'll have to remove from the aft side of the spar before you can drop the fuel tank. On the RV-8, there were a lot of bolts. A lot. I can't remember if the -6/-4 have the same arrangement, but it would stand to reason. >>> >>> >>> - >>> Matt "Red Dawg" Dralle >>> >>> RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" >>> http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log >>> http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log >>> http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel >>> Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... >>> >>> RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" >>> http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log >>> Status: 18 Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:12:27 AM PST US From: Ian Brown Subject: RV-List: Fuel Tank Leaks To George Nielsen, I've also run into the problem of leaking fuel tanks on my RV-9A. I discovered that if you remove the tank and pour diluted pro-seal in through the filler hole you can avoid a lot of work disassembling or drilling holes in the tank. As a diluant I found that a product sold in Canada as "lacquer thinner" worked really well. Acetone evaporates too quickly (but it seems to be a good cleaner before you start). You need to make the mixture really runny. Experiment with it until you can get something quite liquid, but that will set up fairly hard overnight. One of the ingredients in lacquer thinner is methyl ethyl ketone (MEK). You just need to identify where the leak is (with GENTLE air pressure from something like a balloon) using soapy water. Once you're convinced that's the only leaking area, focus on letting the diluted proseal flow along that seal by the positioning of the tank. 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