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1. 02:56 AM - Sweet camera deal (Martin Hone)
2. 03:46 AM - Re: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam (MacDonald Doug)
3. 10:07 AM - Re: Sweet camera deal (Robin Marks)
4. 10:26 AM - Re: Sweet camera deal (thomas sargent)
5. 11:15 AM - Re: Sweet camera deal (Tim Olson)
6. 01:25 PM - Re: Sweet camera deal (RV4PatA@aol.com)
7. 01:54 PM - Re: Sweet camera deal (Robin Marks)
8. 02:32 PM - Re: Sweet camera deal (Tim Olson)
9. 09:23 PM - Re: Sweet camera deal (bifft@xmission.com)
10. 09:42 PM - Re: Sweet camera deal (Doug Gray)
11. 10:43 PM - Sweet camera deal (Robin Marks)
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Subject: | Sweet camera deal |
Hey Matt,
Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
HD170 Stealth at $159.00
Similar specs and comes with remote control.....
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
Merry Xmas
Martin
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Subject: | Re: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam |
I have not got much experience with the HD versions of the Data Toys system
but I do have their non-HD system.- =0A-=0ATheir claims of picture qua
lity (with the older system at least) were complete BS.- I was suckered i
nto buying their $600.00 system that was billed as being great for Youtube
quality videos.- I clipped it to the mirror of my truck and drove down th
e street.- The video was so poor that you could not tell if the trees wer
e diciduous or evergreen, they were just green blobs.--Datatoys came ac
cross as having great customer service and seemed very willing to work with
me and convinced me to step up the their high end system for about-$1500
dollars.- The picture quality was better but now only as good as what I
would have expected from the $600 dollar system, essentially low quality yo
utube crap.- After sending the whole thing back a couple of times I basic
ally gave up until I could discuss things with them at Oshkosh.- I took
-one of my-data cards with video on it with me to Oshkosh this year and
let them play it on their computer-and was told
essentially "what, you're not happy-with that picture quality?- We'd b
e happy to sell you more expensive equipment"--=0A-=0AFool me once, s
hame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.=0A-=0AI don't recommend Datatoys
equipment.- I have since switched to the Contour based N-Flight cam with
the aviator lens on it and am much happier with the picture quality.- Da
tatoys was a $1500.00 lesson on what NOT to buy.=0A-=0ADoug MacDonald=0AN
W Ontario, Canada=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Matt Dra
lle <dralle@matronics.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.com; rv10-list@matronics
.com; rv8-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:00:19
PM=0ASubject: RV-List: Sweet HD Aircraft Video Cam=0A=0A--> RV-List message
posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>=0A=0A=0ASome probably have a
lready seen this, but I noticed that ACS has it on sale right now for $399
plus an extra 10% off with the check out code "PILOT12".=0A=0AI'd be intere
sted to hear any impressions of the system and the actual 1080p video quali
ty.=0A=0A- - - - http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/data
avhd.php=0A=0ABest,=0A=0A=0A-=0AMatt "Red Dawg" Dralle
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Robin:
I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2
questions:
1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking
forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to
the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in
the 40 - 50 deg. range?
I was looking at the Koday Zx3. Only 90$ and has image stabilization. The
narrower field with makes it more likely to make instruments readable at HD
resolution.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 11:02 AM, Robin Marks <robin@painttheweb.com> wrote
:
> I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
> $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
> unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great for
> family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
> specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the comm
> audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really beneficial
> for avoiding 80% video you don=99t want to get the place where you
want to
> film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is difficult to
> know if you are recording remotely unless you get this optional LED light
> attachment which then means you have this additional wire hanging out the
> back plus an additional cap etc****
>
> The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
> options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I adde
d
> the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting devices
> depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no longer have t
he
> photo of my wing mount. ****
>
> Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
> version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really nic
e
> set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the Contour
> mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but they too
> seem to take nice images.****
>
> Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
> my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
> attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
> pilot.****
>
> Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
> removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while t
he
> video is playing.****
>
> ** **
>
> http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1****
>
>
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
> $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
> unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
> for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
> specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
> comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
> beneficial for avoiding 80% video you dont want to get the place where
> you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
> difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
> optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
> wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc
>
> The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
> options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
> added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
> devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
> longer have the photo of my wing mount.
>
> Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
> version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
> nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
> Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
> they too seem to take nice images.
>
> Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
> my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
> attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
> pilot.
>
> Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
> removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
> the video is playing.
>
> http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
>
> Robin
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Sweet camera deal
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
> HD170 Stealth at $159.00
>
> Similar specs and comes with remote
> control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
>
> Merry Xmas
>
> Martin
>
> * *
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Here is a video shot with the HD170 mounted to the canopy with a suction
mount. Bump it up to HD to watch. The instruments are readable in some ligh
t
conditions. _http://youtu.be/zA_PqkgTALE_ (http://youtu.be/zA_PqkgTALE)
In a message dated 12/22/2011 1:16:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@myrv10.com>
Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
> $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
> unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
> for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
> specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
> comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
> beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don=99t want to get the plac
e where
> you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
> difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
> optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
> wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc
>
> The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
> options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
> added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
> devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
> longer have the photo of my wing mount.
>
> Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
> version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
> nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
> Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
> they too seem to take nice images.
>
> Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
> my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
> attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
> pilot.
>
> Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
> removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
> the video is playing.
>
> http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
>
> Robin
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Sweet camera deal
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
> HD170 Stealth at $159.00
>
> Similar specs and comes with remote
>
control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170_H
D170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
>
> Merry Xmas
>
> Martin
>
> * *
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
The drift in nor aerodynamic when turned sideways. And I didn't know the co
ntour had audio. My drift audio is ideal for my 8A set up so that was my th
inking.
If u want to use my drift for a month or so let me know and then u can use
side by side.
Robin
Sent from my Android Phone
Tim Olson wrote:
Robin,
Funny you should say that between the Drift and Contour...
After getting the Contour+, it does a great job but
my personal thought was I will buy a drift to go OUTSIDE
and leave the Contour+ inside. The Contour+ has audio
and GPS and everything, and does a good job inside, plus
it has the rotating lens and the ability to get rid of the
prop arc. The drift seems more aerodynamically suited for
outside, and seems to be a great one for mounting outside
with it's built in screw hole. So you're looking at it
the exact opposite as I am.
The wide field of view makes full-panel recording of
instruments almost useless. You'd have to get the
camera pretty close. Might work great to record one or
two instruments though.
Tim
On 12/22/2011 12:02 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> I own the Drift HD 170 that I got for a good deal at $199 delivered (was
> $299 at one point) so that BH deal looks pretty sweet. I settled on this
> unit after being disappointed with my HD Point & Shoot which do great
> for family video but not so good for action video. I chose this unit
> specifically because it has an audio input so I can easily input the
> comm audio with the video plus I thought the remote would be really
> beneficial for avoiding 80% video you don=92t want to get the place where
> you want to film. Unfortunately the remote has a limited range and it is
> difficult to know if you are recording remotely unless you get this
> optional LED light attachment which then means you have this additional
> wire hanging out the back plus an additional cap etc=85
>
> The camera is larger than you may expect but it does give you a lot of
> options for mounting because it has a standard camera thread base. I
> added the RAM ball to that then use several different RAM mounting
> devices depending on where I want the camera positioned. Sorry I no
> longer have the photo of my wing mount.
>
> Overall I am pleased especially for the price. I do plan on buying some
> version of the Contour at some point as that also seems like a really
> nice set up. I will use the Drift in the cockpit for the audio and the
> Contour mounted externally. I am not a fan of the GoPro form factor but
> they too seem to take nice images.
>
> Here is my first attempt at flying with the camera mounted to the end of
> my wing. I will correct the constant wobble apparent from this first
> attempt. Also note the prop from this angle is distorted. But so is the
> pilot.
>
> Oh, one last thing, this video is MUCH better with the music but YouTube
> removed the sound due to royalty restrictions so feel free to hum while
> the video is playing.=85
>
> http://youtu.be/Ku9ASFiNtYA?hd=1
>
> Robin
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Martin Hone
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 22, 2011 2:53 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV-List: Sweet camera deal
>
> Hey Matt,
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade, but I reckon you cannot go past the Drift
> HD170 Stealth at $159.00
>
> Similar specs and comes with remote
> control.....http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751813-REG/Drift_SHD170
_HD170_Stealth_Action_Camera.html
>
> Merry Xmas
>
> Martin
>
> * *
rsbooks.com>
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Sorry, I should have mentioned EFIS, not just instruments. If you're
that far back trying to view an EFIS screen with an HD camera, it just
isn't worth doing. In my use, I'd want to be able to video the screen
as I fly an approach, for instance...and show the approach on the
EFIS with the view out the window. It's just not practical with one
camera.
In your example, with round gauges, yes, you can make out your
altitude and airspeed a bit and see some of those things.
Tim
do not archive
On 12/22/2011 3:20 PM, RV4PatA@aol.com wrote:
> Here is a video shot with the HD170 mounted to the canopy with a suction
> mount. Bump it up to HD to watch. The instruments are readable in some
> light conditions. http://youtu.be/zA_PqkgTALE
> In a message dated 12/22/2011 1:16:13 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Quoting thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>:
> Robin:
> I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2
> questions:
>
> 1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking
> forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
>
> 2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to
> the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in
> the 40 - 50 deg. range?
This isn't in an RV, but in a Starduster Too, with an Drift HD 170 mounted
about where the passenger's head would go. Can read the instruments better
than in the previously posted RV-4 video, and also they are much easier to
read in the video from the camera vs. the youtube compression.
http://youtu.be/lmTrlFAMcJs
Not an intersting video otherwise, but does show the instruments well.
Audio is just engine noise, hadn't gotten the cables to hook it up to the
intercom when I took this, then one of the other partners had a prop strike,
so haven't had a chance to test that feature yet.
Field of view is 170 degrees. I too am hoping to use this to record
my test flights in the RV, using the intercom to take notes.
Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
RV-8A 80091 Mounting engine
1/4 Starduster Too N23UT Down for maintence.
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Subject: | Re: Sweet camera deal |
Brian,
Nice video!
I do think you need to do some serious maintenance on the pitot/static system...
Doug Gray
On 23/12/2011, at 4:18 PM, bifft@xmission.com wrote:
>
> Quoting thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>:
>
>> Robin:
>> I want to use the HD camera to record instruments in the panel. I have 2
>> questions:
>>
>> 1) Did you try hanging the Drift from the canopy between the seats looking
>> forward (I have a 6A)? If so, were the instruments readable in the video?
>>
>> 2) What is the field of view of the camera? Is it very wide, comparable to
>> the GoPro's 130 deg. ? Or is it more typical of most cameras - that is - in
>> the 40 - 50 deg. range?
>
> This isn't in an RV, but in a Starduster Too, with an Drift HD 170 mounted
> about where the passenger's head would go. Can read the instruments better
> than in the previously posted RV-4 video, and also they are much easier to
> read in the video from the camera vs. the youtube compression.
>
> http://youtu.be/lmTrlFAMcJs
>
> Not an intersting video otherwise, but does show the instruments well.
> Audio is just engine noise, hadn't gotten the cables to hook it up to the
> intercom when I took this, then one of the other partners had a prop strike,
> so haven't had a chance to test that feature yet.
>
> Field of view is 170 degrees. I too am hoping to use this to record
> my test flights in the RV, using the intercom to take notes.
>
> Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft@xmission.com)
> RV-8A 80091 Mounting engine
> 1/4 Starduster Too N23UT Down for maintence.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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