---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/15/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:45 AM - take off with half flaps (George Inman) 2. 08:20 AM - Flaps (Valovich, Paul) 3. 11:05 AM - Re: paint shops (McFarland, Randy) 4. 11:19 AM - Re: take off with half flaps (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:56 AM PST US From: George Inman Subject: RV-List: take off with half flaps Another reason to take off with no flap is for engine cooling. If you notice the engine overheating on takeoff or climb-out try less flap or no flap.You will notice a difference. I fly an RV-8. -- George H. Inman ghinman@mts.net 204 287 8334 204 799 7062 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:02 AM PST US From: "Valovich, Paul" Subject: RV-List: Flaps -8A with 180 HP IO-360 and CS prop. Forward CG. No flaps on takeoff but ful l backstick. Decided I'd rather monitor other things besides flap retractio n right after takeoff. No problem. Normally full flaps on landing, 70 KIAS on final, full backstick after land ing. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:05:37 AM PST US From: "McFarland, Randy" Subject: RE: RV-List: paint shops http://stahrdesign.com/ Lance, John Stahr in Eugene painted my 7A a couple of years ago. He doesn' t much like painting the standard two color schemes as you can see on his w ebsite gallery and my paint. He does great airbrush art, our horses on the right wing and my formation flying hobby on the left wing. Highly recommend John, and he is finishing his own -8. Randy McFarland RV 7A South County E16 owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Lance Sorensen Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2012 2:32 PM Subject: RV-List: paint shops Is there anyone who knows of a good paint shop located in Washington, Orego n or Idaho that could do a good job painting my RV9A for a "reasonable" price? I know that aircraft paint shop s are getting to be far and few between but there must be a few left. Thanks. 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If you are not the intended recipient , please contact the sender immediately and delete all copies. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:45 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: take off with half flaps On 04/14/2012 11:52 PM, thomas sargent wrote: > The reason I am asking is to find out how to best do a short field > take off in this plane. I do landings with and without flaps, but my > takes offs are always the same. > > -- > Tom Sargent *Go for it, especially for short field or soft field operations. I think you'll be amazed at how much quicker it will get off the ground with some flaps. Just remember that full flaps might up the ante a bit if you have an engine out on takeoff while still at low speeds. Try all configs, but I'd bet that 1/3-1/2 would be the best compromise for takeoff. The 1st time I did it, it was by accident (left them down to protect them from spectators at a flyin, & forgot to raise 'em prior to takeoff). I popped off the ground so quickly (grass strip) that it almost scared me. :-) Raising them is pretty safe at anything above about 70 kts, as long as you're not trying to climb over an obstacle when you raise them. There'll be minimal settling, but drag goes down & acceleration compensates quickly. 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