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1. 04:53 AM - Re: screen in sump? (Ralph E. Capen)
2. 05:57 AM - Re: RV-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/07/12 (John Schmidt)
3. 06:09 AM - Re: screen in sump? (Carl Froehlich)
4. 06:34 AM - Re: screen in sump? (Kelly McMullen)
5. 08:07 AM - Waiver for another pilot flying my plane ()
6. 08:09 AM - Re: screen in sump? (Dan Bergeron)
7. 08:23 AM - Re: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane (JohnF)
8. 08:59 AM - Re:RV-list: screen in sump? (MLE)
9. 09:18 AM - Re: screen in sump? (Valovich, Paul)
10. 10:54 AM - Re: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane (David Burton)
11. 02:53 PM - Re: screen in sump? (Ralph E. Capen)
12. 09:13 PM - Re: screen in sump? (thomas sargent)
13. 09:20 PM - pitot system leaks (thomas sargent)
14. 09:47 PM - Re: pitot system leaks (n801bh@netzero.com)
15. 11:17 PM - Re: pitot system leaks (vanremog@aol.com)
16. 11:22 PM - Re: pitot system leaks (vanremog@aol.com)
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Tom,
When you do find it (other post had a good description), remember to
replace the crush gasket, I buy oil filters, crush gaskets and Oil
analysis kits in matching batches =93 usually 6-pack as the oil
filters come that way at a discount.
If you still can=99t find it let me know and I=99ll get a
picture for you
Ralph
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: screen in sump?
The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove, clean,
inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't confuse this
with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine
because that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen
in the sump and if so how do I get to it?
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | RE: RV-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 07/07/12 |
Tom:
A guy from Lycoming showed up to our EAA chapter 25 meeting a few months ag
o=2C and described the screen in the sump. He said that an incredible numbe
r of homebuilders are ignoring this screen=2C to the detriment of the life
of their engines. You are wise to ask.
I found this through a simple Google search.
http://www.vansairforce.com/community/archive/index.php?t-29848.html
Look at Page 6-2=2C part number 14=2C Screen=2C Oil Suction
http://www.expaircraft.com/PDF/IPC.pdf
best=2C John Schmidt St. Paul=2C MN RV6 N218PJ (the Forever Project). EAA 2
50021
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> Subject: RV-List: screen in sump?
> From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
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> The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove=2C clean
=2C
> inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
> suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine=2C so don't confuse thi
s
> with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine because
> that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen in the su
mp
> and if so how do I get to it?
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> Thanks=2C
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> Tom Sargent
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Ralph,
What size is the crush gasket? I=99m putting an Aircraft Spruce
order together and I may as well get some now.
Thanks,
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: screen in sump?
Tom,
When you do find it (other post had a good description), remember to
replace the crush gasket, I buy oil filters, crush gaskets and Oil
analysis kits in matching batches =93 usually 6-pack as the oil
filters come that way at a discount.
If you still can=99t find it let me know and I=99ll get a
picture for you
Ralph
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: screen in sump?
The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove, clean,
inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't confuse this
with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine
because that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen
in the sump and if so how do I get to it?
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: screen in sump? |
From the referenced thread,
"STD-111 Gasket, 1 in ID x 1 1/4 in ID x 3/32 Annular.
I believe it might also have an AN 900 number...
A whole 58 cents from AERO.....:)
http://www.aeroinstock.com/products/GASKET/5598/48371/product_detail/index.html
..also cross references to a MS35769-21 on the AERO site....
But, if it's 1.00 inch ID (and the plug has a 1.0 diam thread) then the
correct cross-reference is MS35769-16 or the older AN900-16 number - and
is a whole 39 cents from Aircraft Spruce."
On 7/8/2012 6:09 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
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> Ralph,
>
> What size is the crush gasket? Im putting an Aircraft Spruce order
> together and I may as well get some now.
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Ralph E. Capen
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:54 AM
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV-List: screen in sump?
>
> Tom,
>
> When you do find it (other post had a good description), remember to
> replace the crush gasket, I buy oil filters, crush gaskets and Oil
> analysis kits in matching batches usually 6-pack as the oil filters
> come that way at a discount.
>
> If you still cant find it let me know and Ill get a picture for you
>
> Ralph
>
> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
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> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *thomas sargent
> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:14 AM
> *To:* rv-list
> *Subject:* RV-List: screen in sump?
>
> The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove,
> clean, inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is
> the oil suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't
> confuse this with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in
> the engine because that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there
> another screen in the sump and if so how do I get to it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Waiver for another pilot flying my plane |
Gentlemen:
My RV-A is nearly ready for its first flight. I cannot medically fly
the plane and another pilot(s) will be flying off the 40 hours.
Do any of you have a waiver for other pilots to sign when they fly your
RV? My wife and I are nervous about this...
Thanks...
Joe Connell
Stewartville, MN
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Subject: | Re: screen in sump? |
Tom:
On a Lyc 360 it's a metal, reuseable, "finger" filter - accessed by
removing a hex-head cap (the filter will come out with the cap) on the back
of the engine, right side and down low - not the easiest thing to get at
and difficult to safety wire when reinstalling - helps to temporarily
remove SCAT tubing connecting the right side heat muff to the heater box -
clean it with solvent - be careful puttting it back in - it's easily
crushed if you don't fully seat it before tightening the cap. Hope this
helps!
Cheers,
Dan Bergeron
RV-7A - N307TB
320 hours since
1st flight on 8/4/09
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com> wrote:
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> From the referenced thread,
> "STD-111 Gasket, 1 in ID x 1 1/4 in ID x 3/32 Annular.
>
> I believe it might also have an AN 900 number...
>
> A whole 58 cents from AERO.....:)
>
> http://www.aeroinstock.com/**products/GASKET/5598/48371/**
> product_detail/index.html<http://www.aeroinstock.com/products/GASKET/5598
/48371/product_detail/index.html>
>
> ..also cross references to a MS35769-21 on the AERO site....
>
> But, if it's 1.00 inch ID (and the plug has a 1.0 diam thread) then the
> correct cross-reference is MS35769-16 or the older AN900-16 number - and
is
> a whole 39 cents from Aircraft Spruce."
>
>
> On 7/8/2012 6:09 AM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
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>>
>> Ralph,
>>
>> What size is the crush gasket? I=92m putting an Aircraft Spruce order
>> together and I may as well get some now.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
>> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@**matronics.com<owner-rv-list-server@matroni
cs.com>[mailto:
>> owner-rv-list-server@**matronics.com <owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
>]
>> *On Behalf Of *Ralph E. Capen
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:54 AM
>> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
>> *Subject:* RE: RV-List: screen in sump?
>>
>>
>> Tom,
>>
>> When you do find it (other post had a good description), remember to
>> replace the crush gasket, I buy oil filters, crush gaskets and Oil
>> analysis kits in matching batches ' usually 6-pack as the oil filters
come
>> that way at a discount.
>>
>> If you still can=92t find it let me know and I=92ll get a picture for yo
u=85
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> *From:*owner-rv-list-server@**matronics.com<owner-rv-list-server@matroni
cs.com><mailto:
>> owner-rv-list-server@**matronics.com <owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
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>> [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@**matronics.com<owner-rv-list-server@matron
ics.com>]
>> *On Behalf Of *thomas sargent
>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:14 AM
>> *To:* rv-list
>> *Subject:* RV-List: screen in sump?
>>
>>
>> The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove, clean,
>> inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
>> suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't confuse this
>> with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine becaus
e
>> that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen in the s
ump
>> and if so how do I get to it?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> --
>> Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane |
Go to the AOPA web site...they have as fairly good one that you can
download.
----- Original Message -----
From: jconnell@fmwildblue.com
To: RV-List
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: RV-List: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane
Gentlemen:
My RV-A is nearly ready for its first flight. I cannot medically fly
the plane and another pilot(s) will be flying off the 40 hours.
Do any of you have a waiver for other pilots to sign when they fly
your RV? My wife and I are nervous about this...
Thanks...
Joe Connell
Stewartville, MN
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Subject: | Re:RV-list: screen in sump? |
Tom,
On my 0-360 A1A there is a screen on the bottom rear of the sump, held in
by a bolt that is safety tied to the case. Behind that bolt is a finger
screen. This is not to be confused with the oil filter.
Marty in Brentwood TN
Time: 11:14:23 PM PST US
Subject: RV-List: screen in sump?
From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove, clean,
inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't confuse this
with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine because
that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen in the sump
and if so how do I get to it?
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: screen in sump? |
On my IO-360 facing forward it's the safety wired cap on the right side of
the sump. Getting to it and re-safety wiring it is a PITA.
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Subject: | Re: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane |
It's common to add another pilot on to your insurance policy. Talk with
your agent about it, or contact Sky Smith for some help making this
decision:
http://skysmith.com/
From: JohnF
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane
Go to the AOPA web site...they have as fairly good one that you can
download.
----- Original Message -----
From: jconnell@fmwildblue.com
To: RV-List
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:04 AM
Subject: RV-List: Waiver for another pilot flying my plane
Gentlemen:
My RV-A is nearly ready for its first flight. I cannot medically fly
the plane and another pilot(s) will be flying off the 40 hours.
Do any of you have a waiver for other pilots to sign when they fly
your RV? My wife and I are nervous about this...
Thanks...
Joe Connell
Stewartville, MN
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AN900-16 AN GASKETS MS35769-21
Is what I ordered...
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Froehlich
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: screen in sump?
Ralph,
What size is the crush gasket? I=99m putting an Aircraft Spruce
order together and I may as well get some now.
Thanks,
Carl
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 7:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV-List: screen in sump?
Tom,
When you do find it (other post had a good description), remember to
replace the crush gasket, I buy oil filters, crush gaskets and Oil
analysis kits in matching batches =93 usually 6-pack as the oil
filters come that way at a discount.
If you still can=99t find it let me know and I=99ll get a
picture for you
Ralph
From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 2:14 AM
Subject: RV-List: screen in sump?
The checklist I am using for my annual inspections says "remove, clean,
inspect oil suction screen in sump". Where in an Lyc. O-360 is the oil
suction sump? I have an oil filter on the engine, so don't confuse this
with the engine oil screen. There is no oil screen in the engine
because that was replaced with the oil filter. Is there another screen
in the sump and if so how do I get to it?
Thanks,
--
Tom Sargent
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
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Subject: | Re: screen in sump? |
Thanks for the responses. I ordered the lyc. parts manual.
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | pitot system leaks |
I tested the pitot system (using the water in a U-shaped tube method) in my
RV-6A today and found it leaking fairly badly. Tightening up the various
fittings helped. I'm always afraid of over-tightening those plastic
fittings. That improved things but it still leaks down the airspeed
indicator from about 106 to 100 knots in a couple of minutes. I assume it
should be able to hold constant for many minutes?
Do people ever use any kind of sealant on these fittings? A thin film of
oil on the sealing surfaces perhaps?
--
Tom Sargent
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Subject: | Re: pitot system leaks |
Loosing 6 Knots over a couple of minutes will not affect the accuracy of
the ASI to any measurable degree. IMHO
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
Subject: RV-List: pitot system leaks
I tested the pitot system (using the water in a U-shaped tube method) in
my RV-6A today and found it leaking fairly badly.=C2 Tightening up the
various fittings helped.=C2 I'm always afraid of over-tightening those
plastic fittings.=C2 That improved things but it still leaks down the
airspeed indicator from about 106 to 100 knots in a couple of minutes.=C2
I assume it should be able to hold constant for many minutes?
Do people ever use any kind of sealant on these fittings? A thin film of
oil on the sealing surfaces perhaps?
--
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Subject: | Re: pitot system leaks |
First of all, what types of fittings are you using? The best ones have int
imate sealing surfaces or ferrules.
What is the nature of the sealing surfaces? They should be smooth and cont
iguous.
Are you sealing to the inside diameter of the tubing or the outside? Insid
e must mate with beaded or multi barbed fittings.
Are there threads in the potential leak path? If yes then use PST.
-GV
-----Original Message-----
From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2012 9:21 pm
Subject: RV-List: pitot system leaks
I tested the pitot system (using the water in a U-shaped tube method) in my
RV-6A today and found it leaking fairly badly. Tightening up the various
fittings helped. I'm always afraid of over-tightening those plastic fittin
gs. That improved things but it still leaks down the airspeed indicator fr
om about 106 to 100 knots in a couple of minutes. I assume it should be ab
le to hold constant for many minutes?
Do people ever use any kind of sealant on these fittings? A thin film of oi
l on the sealing surfaces perhaps?
--
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Subject: | Re: pitot system leaks |
Are you sealing to the inside diameter of the tubing or the outside? Insid
e must mate with beaded or multi barbed fittings.
Sorry, this should have been completed as: Outside must be absolutely flaw
less and slick to seal with O-ring fittings and a little DC4 couldn't hurt.
-GV
-----Original Message-----
From: vanremog <vanremog@aol.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2012 11:18 pm
Subject: Re: RV-List: pitot system leaks
First of all, what types of fittings are you using? The best ones have int
imate sealing surfaces or ferrules.
What is the nature of the sealing surfaces? They should be smooth and cont
iguous.
Are you sealing to the inside diameter of the tubing or the outside? Insid
e must mate with beaded or multi barbed fittings.
Are there threads in the potential leak path? If yes then use PST.
-GV
-----Original Message-----
From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 8, 2012 9:21 pm
Subject: RV-List: pitot system leaks
I tested the pitot system (using the water in a U-shaped tube method) in my
RV-6A today and found it leaking fairly badly. Tightening up the various
fittings helped. I'm always afraid of over-tightening those plastic fittin
gs. That improved things but it still leaks down the airspeed indicator fr
om about 106 to 100 knots in a couple of minutes. I assume it should be ab
le to hold constant for many minutes?
Do people ever use any kind of sealant on these fittings? A thin film of oi
l on the sealing surfaces perhaps?
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