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1. 10:59 AM - Plastic Brake Lines (Ellis H McGaughy)
2. 11:53 AM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Ed Holyoke)
3. 11:56 AM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Charlie England)
4. 11:58 AM - Gps alternates (charlie)
5. 12:34 PM - Re: Gps alternates (Michael Kraus)
6. 01:31 PM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Carl Froehlich)
7. 02:55 PM - Re: Lyc cylinder service shop? (Charlie England)
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Subject: | Plastic Brake Lines |
Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is
for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about
connection leaks and longevity.
Thanks
Ellis.
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Subject: | Re: Plastic Brake Lines |
Howdy Ellis,
I had the plastic ones from the reservoir to the master cylinders and
had several instances of leakage over the course of some years. This is
on the no pressure side. I re-did my reservoir lines with flex hoses and
that is the sure fire leak cure. The brass fittings work better than the
nylon ones, but I still wound up with leaks over time.
Using the plastic lines for the high pressure side is for sure going to
leak at some point. Whatever you do, don't use plastic all the way to
the calipers. It gets hot down there and you'll wind up with a leak and
a fire. My advice is to use flex lines everywhere there is movement and
the aluminum lines where you can. I went with -3 flex lines for an even
harder pedal feel. Bonaco will make them for you with clear plastic
sheath on for abrasion protection. Ask for Brett @ 909-985-3429. You can
get -3 hoses premade (no sheath) at Pegasus Racing and other sources as
well.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
On 7/13/2012 10:54 AM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote:
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> Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is
> for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about
> connection leaks and longevity.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ellis.
> RV-7a fuse
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Subject: | Re: Plastic Brake Lines |
On 07/13/2012 12:54 PM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: Ellis H McGaughy<Ellis.H.McGaughy@usa.dupont.com>
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> Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is
> for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about
> connection leaks and longevity.
>
> Thanks
>
> Ellis.
> RV-7a fuse
>
IIRC, the 1st -4 that I bought had plastic lines, & I never had a
problem. The plane had ~700 hrs on it when I sold it. But I'm based on a
long grass strip, so I have a bit of help with stopping.
I've heard stories of heavy brake use melting the lines followed in some
cases by fire. Of course, I also have a friend who had an aluminum line
fatigue & blow a hole in the line inside the pant, causing a fire.
The -4 I'm flying now has aluminum lines in Van's stock configuration.
No problems with the lines with over 1100 hrs on the plane.
Don't know if that helps much....
Charlie
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My 296 is no longer tracking correctly at times, I am ready to upgrade.
Only thing I have against newer garmins is the small screen size. I had
ipad with foreflight for a while, but it wont drive my digitrac, and
overheats in cockpit and shuts off anyway. Anybody happy with another
type they are usingthat drives autopilot? Charlie H 6A
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Subject: | Re: Gps alternates |
Garmin 696
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On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:57 PM, "charlie" <cheathco@cox.net> wrote:
> My 296 is no longer tracking correctly at times, I am ready to upgrade. On
ly thing I have against newer garmins is the small screen size. I had ipad w
ith foreflight for a while, but it wont drive my digitrac, and overheats in c
ockpit and shuts off anyway. Anybody happy with another type they are usingt
hat drives autopilot? Charlie H 6A
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Subject: | Plastic Brake Lines |
10 years using the stock Van=92s plastic lines on the low pressure side
in my
8A (per plan). No leaks. I did use the brass ferrule on the fittings
and
recommend using them. The high pressure side is =BC=94 aluminum tubing
per
plans.
Carl
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[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: RV-List: Plastic Brake Lines
Howdy Ellis,
I had the plastic ones from the reservoir to the master cylinders and
had
several instances of leakage over the course of some years. This is on
the
no pressure side. I re-did my reservoir lines with flex hoses and that
is
the sure fire leak cure. The brass fittings work better than the nylon
ones,
but I still wound up with leaks over time.
Using the plastic lines for the high pressure side is for sure going to
leak
at some point. Whatever you do, don't use plastic all the way to the
calipers. It gets hot down there and you'll wind up with a leak and a
fire.
My advice is to use flex lines everywhere there is movement and the
aluminum
lines where you can. I went with -3 flex lines for an even harder pedal
feel. Bonaco will make them for you with clear plastic sheath on for
abrasion protection. Ask for Brett @ 909-985-3429. You can get -3 hoses
premade (no sheath) at Pegasus Racing and other sources as well.
Pax,
Ed Holyoke
On 7/13/2012 10:54 AM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote:
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<Ellis.H.McGaughy@usa.dupont.com>
Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing
is
for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about
connection leaks and longevity.
Thanks
Ellis.
RV-7a fuse
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Subject: | Re: Lyc cylinder service shop? |
OK, that's 2 for Zephyr & one for the one at BUY. I'll try to check with
both.
Not any in Memphis or New Orleans are there? That's close enough to
create an excuse to drive/play. :-) (From Jackson MS)
How about an online copy of the Lyc parts catalog for the old narrow
deck O-320's? I've found 2 or 3 versions for the wide deck 320's, but
none so far for my O-320 B2A.
Thanks again,
Charlie
'Save the date': 1st Saturday in November is the Slobovia Pumpkin Drop
here at MS71.
On 07/12/2012 09:40 PM, Larry Bowen wrote:
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> I think the shop at BUY could do it.
>
> Larry Bowen
> Larry@BowenAero.com
> http://BowenAero.com
>
> On Jul 12, 2012 10:27 PM, "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net
> <mailto:ceengland@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a cylinder shop that will basically do a
> valve job on a cylinder? I've got cylinders that are basically in
> great shape with good (mid 70's) compression, but I suspect worn
> valve guides. I've already got them off the motor, so I'd like to
> just get the top topped, if you know what I mean.
>
> A shop in the southeast would be a plus (less shipping time/expense).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Charlie
>
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