---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/13/12: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:59 AM - Plastic Brake Lines (Ellis H McGaughy) 2. 11:53 AM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Ed Holyoke) 3. 11:56 AM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Charlie England) 4. 11:58 AM - Gps alternates (charlie) 5. 12:34 PM - Re: Gps alternates (Michael Kraus) 6. 01:31 PM - Re: Plastic Brake Lines (Carl Froehlich) 7. 02:55 PM - Re: Lyc cylinder service shop? (Charlie England) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:32 AM PST US From: Ellis H McGaughy Subject: RV-List: Plastic Brake Lines Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about connection leaks and longevity. Thanks Ellis. 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I went with -3 flex lines for an even harder pedal feel. Bonaco will make them for you with clear plastic sheath on for abrasion protection. Ask for Brett @ 909-985-3429. You can get -3 hoses premade (no sheath) at Pegasus Racing and other sources as well. Pax, Ed Holyoke On 7/13/2012 10:54 AM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Ellis H McGaughy > > > Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is > for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about > connection leaks and longevity. > > Thanks > > Ellis. > RV-7a fuse > > Sent from my iPad > > > This communication is for use by the intended recipient and contains > information that may be Privileged, confidential or copyrighted under > applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > formally notified that any use, copying or distribution of this e-mail, > in whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Please notify the sender by > return e-mail and delete this e-mail from your system. Unless explicitly > and conspicuously designated as "E-Contract Intended", this e-mail does > not constitute a contract offer, a contract amendment, or an acceptance > of a contract offer. This e-mail does not constitute a consent to the > use of sender's contact information for direct marketing purposes or for > transfers of data to third parties. > > Francais Deutsch Italiano Espanol Portugues Japanese Chinese Korean > > http://www.DuPont.com/corp/email_disclaimer.html > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:56:02 AM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: Plastic Brake Lines On 07/13/2012 12:54 PM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote: > --> RV-List message posted by: Ellis H McGaughy > > > Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is > for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about > connection leaks and longevity. > > Thanks > > Ellis. > RV-7a fuse > IIRC, the 1st -4 that I bought had plastic lines, & I never had a problem. The plane had ~700 hrs on it when I sold it. But I'm based on a long grass strip, so I have a bit of help with stopping. I've heard stories of heavy brake use melting the lines followed in some cases by fire. Of course, I also have a friend who had an aluminum line fatigue & blow a hole in the line inside the pant, causing a fire. The -4 I'm flying now has aluminum lines in Van's stock configuration. No problems with the lines with over 1100 hrs on the plane. Don't know if that helps much.... Charlie ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:58:46 AM PST US From: "charlie" Subject: RV-List: Gps alternates My 296 is no longer tracking correctly at times, I am ready to upgrade. Only thing I have against newer garmins is the small screen size. I had ipad with foreflight for a while, but it wont drive my digitrac, and overheats in cockpit and shuts off anyway. Anybody happy with another type they are usingthat drives autopilot? Charlie H 6A ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Gps alternates From: Michael Kraus Garmin 696 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2012, at 2:57 PM, "charlie" wrote: > My 296 is no longer tracking correctly at times, I am ready to upgrade. On ly thing I have against newer garmins is the small screen size. I had ipad w ith foreflight for a while, but it wont drive my digitrac, and overheats in c ockpit and shuts off anyway. Anybody happy with another type they are usingt hat drives autopilot? Charlie H 6A > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:43 PM PST US From: "Carl Froehlich" Subject: RE: RV-List: Plastic Brake Lines 10 years using the stock Van=92s plastic lines on the low pressure side in my 8A (per plan). No leaks. I did use the brass ferrule on the fittings and recommend using them. The high pressure side is =BC=94 aluminum tubing per plans. Carl From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Holyoke Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: RV-List: Plastic Brake Lines Howdy Ellis, I had the plastic ones from the reservoir to the master cylinders and had several instances of leakage over the course of some years. This is on the no pressure side. I re-did my reservoir lines with flex hoses and that is the sure fire leak cure. The brass fittings work better than the nylon ones, but I still wound up with leaks over time. Using the plastic lines for the high pressure side is for sure going to leak at some point. Whatever you do, don't use plastic all the way to the calipers. It gets hot down there and you'll wind up with a leak and a fire. My advice is to use flex lines everywhere there is movement and the aluminum lines where you can. I went with -3 flex lines for an even harder pedal feel. Bonaco will make them for you with clear plastic sheath on for abrasion protection. Ask for Brett @ 909-985-3429. You can get -3 hoses premade (no sheath) at Pegasus Racing and other sources as well. Pax, Ed Holyoke On 7/13/2012 10:54 AM, Ellis H McGaughy wrote: Any real world experience with Vans plastic brake lines? One thing is for sure, they are light and cheap. I am just wondering about connection leaks and longevity. Thanks Ellis. 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Francais Deutsch Italiano Espanol Portugues Japanese Chinese Korean http://www.DuPont.com/corp/email_disclaimer.html ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:55:56 PM PST US From: Charlie England Subject: Re: RV-List: Lyc cylinder service shop? OK, that's 2 for Zephyr & one for the one at BUY. I'll try to check with both. Not any in Memphis or New Orleans are there? That's close enough to create an excuse to drive/play. :-) (From Jackson MS) How about an online copy of the Lyc parts catalog for the old narrow deck O-320's? I've found 2 or 3 versions for the wide deck 320's, but none so far for my O-320 B2A. Thanks again, Charlie 'Save the date': 1st Saturday in November is the Slobovia Pumpkin Drop here at MS71. On 07/12/2012 09:40 PM, Larry Bowen wrote: > > I think the shop at BUY could do it. > > Larry Bowen > Larry@BowenAero.com > http://BowenAero.com > > On Jul 12, 2012 10:27 PM, "Charlie England" > wrote: > > Can anyone recommend a cylinder shop that will basically do a > valve job on a cylinder? I've got cylinders that are basically in > great shape with good (mid 70's) compression, but I suspect worn > valve guides. I've already got them off the motor, so I'd like to > just get the top topped, if you know what I mean. > > A shop in the southeast would be a plus (less shipping time/expense). > > Thanks, > > Charlie > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.