RV-List Digest Archive

Mon 09/17/12


Total Messages Posted: 7



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 08:39 AM - Avoiding a Flip Over? (Ian Brown)
     2. 08:44 AM - Engine mount bolt sizing (Ralph E. Capen)
     3. 08:55 AM - Re: Avoiding a Flip Over? (Bob Collins)
     4. 02:44 PM - Re: Engine mount bolt sizing (Nikolaos Napoli)
     5. 03:30 PM - Re: Avoiding a Flip Over? (Hopperdhh@aol.com)
     6. 03:47 PM - Re: Garmin 696 XM music question (Jon Finley)
     7. 04:27 PM - Re: Nexus 7" Tablet / 8" iPad (Jon Finley)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:39:11 AM PST US
    From: Ian Brown <ixb@videotron.ca>
    Subject: Avoiding a Flip Over?
    Flyers and builders of Van's RV "A" models, I flipped my aircraft over and face a major rebuild. I wanted to send a message to the digest to give a heads-up to those of you who don't find the time to dwell in the forums. There is a device that could save your lives and could have saved major expense for me. It's called the AntiSplat device from AntiSplatAero. I'm convinced that my flip over could have been avoided if I'd had this. At the same strip two days later the identical aircraft arrived, an RV-9A, and they had AntiSplat fitted and had no problems on this somewhat bumpy grass strip. I could also improve my piloting skills, but that's a different chapter. At least the five-point harnesses did a great job. Snug 'em up tight folks, and carry that escape tool. It turns out that when you're upside down the canopy won't move, slider or tip-up, and the canopy is already smashed so the tool you need to get out is something that will snap off plexiglass. Also, don't expect to have the presence of mind to pick up your favourite escape tool before you undo your harness and land on your head, which might just disorientate you a bit, or even turn you around. A really pleasant surprise was to discover that the RV vent design results in no fuel loss when inverted accidentally. We saw a small amount drain out when the plane was righted, but while inverted it's good to take stock of the situation in the knowledge that you probably don't have fuel leaking. Ian Brown RV-9A C-GOHM


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    Time: 08:44:33 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Engine mount bolt sizing
    I have my engine and prop back from inspection after getting hit by the hangar door (tornado, derecho, straight-line winds). With only 168 hours on it - I'm going to re-use the rubber Lord mounts - but I am replacing the bolts, castle-nuts, and cotter pins...that brings me to my question: When I originally installed the engine, I used the sizes specified by the plans (AN7-43 for the uppers and AN7-44 for the lowers). In order to get the hole in the AN-310 castle nut to line up, each set took an extra (meaning a total of two) AN960-7 washers 'under' each castle-nut. It was not possible to get a standard wrench around the top-left castle-nut to tighten it. Since each set required an extra 960-7 washer to get it to line up, can I use one size shorter bolt for the re-do and eliminate the extra washers all around - also allowing me to get a regular wrench on the top-left nut??? Ralph RV6A N822AR @ N06


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    Time: 08:55:08 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    Subject: Avoiding a Flip Over?
    Just curious if you had the MATCO "fix" installed, replacing the designed axel. When Alex Peterson diagnosed the problem with the nosewheels as designed a few years ago, and a fix was made available, suddenly a lot of reports of nose-gear flips seemed to disappear, pretty much confirming -- it seems to me -- Alex's diagnosis that the design from Van's imposes a "breaking action" with the puck that seemed to be alleviated with that fix. I've heard tood things, too, about the AntiSplat, but I'm wondering if my anecdotal evidence of a decline in flips suggests a fix already existed that worked? So sorry about your flip, but glad you're OK. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ian Brown Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: RV-List: Avoiding a Flip Over? Flyers and builders of Van's RV "A" models, I flipped my aircraft over and face a major rebuild. I wanted to send a message to the digest to give a heads-up to those of you who don't find the time to dwell in the forums. There is a device that could save your lives and could have saved major expense for me. It's called the AntiSplat device from AntiSplatAero. I'm convinced that my flip over could have been avoided if I'd had this. At the same strip two days later the identical aircraft arrived, an RV-9A, and they had AntiSplat fitted and had no problems on this somewhat bumpy grass strip. I could also improve my piloting skills, but that's a different chapter. At least the five-point harnesses did a great job. Snug 'em up tight folks, and carry that escape tool. It turns out that when you're upside down the canopy won't move, slider or tip-up, and the canopy is already smashed so the tool you need to get out is something that will snap off plexiglass. Also, don't expect to have the presence of mind to pick up your favourite escape tool before you undo your harness and land on your head, which might just disorientate you a bit, or even turn you around. A really pleasant surprise was to discover that the RV vent design results in no fuel loss when inverted accidentally. We saw a small amount drain out when the plane was righted, but while inverted it's good to take stock of the situation in the knowledge that you probably don't have fuel leaking. Ian Brown RV-9A C-GOHM


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    Time: 02:44:21 PM PST US
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <napolin@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine mount bolt sizing
    Hi Ralph The proper length bolt will prevent any threads from bearing inside the hole which will damage the mount. If after you intall a shorter bolt all of the threads are out of the hole you should be fine. However, in the case you are describing I suspect if you use shorter bolts you will end up with threads in bearing which is a nono. Nikolaos Napoli On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:44 AM, "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net> wrote: > > I have my engine and prop back from inspection after getting hit by the hangar door (tornado, derecho, straight-line winds). > > With only 168 hours on it - I'm going to re-use the rubber Lord mounts - but I am replacing the bolts, castle-nuts, and cotter pins...that brings me to my question: > > When I originally installed the engine, I used the sizes specified by the plans (AN7-43 for the uppers and AN7-44 for the lowers). In order to get the hole in the AN-310 castle nut to line up, each set took an extra (meaning a total of two) AN960-7 washers 'under' each castle-nut. It was not possible to get a standard wrench around the top-left castle-nut to tighten it. Since each set required an extra 960-7 washer to get it to line up, can I use one size shorter bolt for the re-do and eliminate the extra washers all around - also allowing me to get a regular wrench on the top-left nut??? > Ralph > RV6A N822AR @ N06 > > > > > >


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    Time: 03:30:52 PM PST US
    From: Hopperdhh@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Avoiding a Flip Over?
    Hello Ian, Thanks for the post. I can really sympathize with you. I had a nose- over about 4 years ago. Took about $10K and 3 months to get back in the air. I slid off my runway making a turn in wet grass. Why didn't I just shut it down? My thought was if I get this thing stuck it will take me a half hour to get it out! I don't blame the nose gear design for my poor groundmanship, but several other flip-overs have happened around here which have made me afraid of my wonderful RV -- to the extent that I don't want to offer rides to friends. I just ordered the AntiSplat Nose Job for my RV-7A based on reading not just your post but also reading posts and watching the videos linked from the Vans Air Force site. I was off list for the past couple of years so I wasn't aware of this device until now. It sure looks good. This looks like the best improvement to the fragile nose gear design out there so far. If any of you nose wheel drivers haven't seen the videos mentioned above, you should. The one about the test fixture is especially enlightening. Anyone flying an -A model RV needs to be extremely careful because this type of accident happens when you least expect it. In my case I didn't flip clear over, but still had to tear the engine down and replace the propeller, engine mount, firewall and lower skin to fix the airplane. Others around here have not been so lucky. Two recent nose-overs resulted in total airframe losses. Thanks again Ian for the post and best of luck as you start the rebuilding process. Seriously, if I had it to do over again, I would take this opportunity to convert it to a tail dragger. Dan Hopper RV-7A IO-360 about 500 hours since 2004. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ian Brown Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 10:38 AM Subject: RV-List: Avoiding a Flip Over? --> RV-List message posted by: Ian Brown <ixb@videotron.ca> Flyers and builders of Van's RV "A" models, I flipped my aircraft over and face a major rebuild. I wanted to send a message to the digest to give a heads-up to those of you who don't find the time to dwell in the forums. There is a device that could save your lives and could have saved major expense for me. It's called the AntiSplat device from AntiSplatAero. I'm convinced that my flip over could have been avoided if I'd had this. At the same strip two days later the identical aircraft arrived, an RV-9A, and they had AntiSplat fitted and had no problems on this somewhat bumpy grass strip. I could also improve my piloting skills, but that's a different chapter. At least the five-point harnesses did a great job. Snug 'em up tight folks, and carry that escape tool. It turns out that when you're upside down the canopy won't move, slider or tip-up, and the canopy is already smashed so the tool you need to get out is something that will snap off plexiglass. Also, don't expect to have the presence of mind to pick up your favourite escape tool before you undo your harness and land on your head, which might just disorientate you a bit, or even turn you around. A really pleasant surprise was to discover that the RV vent design results in no fuel loss when inverted accidentally. We saw a small amount drain out when the plane was righted, but while inverted it's good to take stock of the situation in the knowledge that you probably don't have fuel leaking. Ian Brown RV-9A C-GOHM


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    Time: 03:47:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
    Subject: Garmin 696 XM music question
    Hi Mike, I can't really answer your question (was waiting and hoping someone would). I cannot imagine how adding a resistor (cutting the signal strength) would increase the audio level. The following is a link to what I did to get music into my head - Vx Aviation ASX-2B. Obviously, our setups are very different but I am happy with this product if it can help you (not related, just a happy customer). http://jdfinley.com/2012/06/30/stereo-music/ Hth, Jon -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Kraus Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: RV-List: Garmin 696 XM music question --> <n223rv@wolflakeairport.net> I have a Garmin 696 with XM music and I can't seem to get the sound loud enough to hear consistently. I have it going into the music input of an Apollo SL-15 audio panel. What I need is a way to amplify the output of the 696. Does anyone have any ideas? I thought I heard of a way to add a resistor or diode or something somewhere and it would increase the output?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. -Mike Kraus KitFox SS7 building RV-10 Built and Flying RV-4 Built, Flying and sold :-( Sent from my iPad


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    Time: 04:27:53 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Finley" <jon@finleyweb.net>
    Subject: Nexus 7" Tablet / 8" iPad
    Hi Paul, I purchased Naviator a couple months ago. I'm running it on a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 which is a 7" tablet. I fly VFR only so my need is for sectionals. I am happy. http://jdfinley.com/2012/06/27/electronic-flight-bag/ Jon From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fisher Paul A. Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 6:09 AM Subject: RE: RV-List: Nexus 7" Tablet / 8" iPad You might try the application "Naviator" on your Nexus tablet. There is a 30 day free trial in the Google Play store. I'm still in my 30 day window, so I don't know if I'll pull the trigger on it or not, but I think it is certainly worth a look. I'm in no way associated with the product. A friend just recently mentioned it to me, so I thought I would pass it along. I would be interested in your evaluation if you do look at it. I've tried it on a 5" device which is just too small. Paul A. Fisher RV7A N18PF From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: RV-List: Nexus 7" Tablet / 8" iPad I flew several times recently with the new Google Nexus 7 tablet mostly for listening to music through my Bluetooth routed to my audio panel. What struck me is how nearly perfect the 7" tablet is as a kneeboard replacement. That being the case I have a feeling that when Apple comes out with their 8" iPad mated with Foreflight or ??? that may be a very nice choice for cockpit use as the 10" iPad always seems to be a bit too large and in the way. Robin




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