---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 09/20/12: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:23 AM - Re: Flying the Grandchildren (Michael Kraus) 2. 05:32 AM - Re: Flying the Grandchildren (Dean Pichon) 3. 08:05 AM - FL> Wing VAF Fly-in (Ollie Washburn) 4. 11:29 AM - Re: Flying the Grandchildren (Hopperdhh@aol.com) 5. 12:45 PM - Re: Flying the Grandchildren (mr.gsun@gmail.com) 6. 01:16 PM - Re: Flying the Grandchildren (Lyle Peterson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:12 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren From: Michael Kraus My kids are 5 and 7 now, and I take them flying regularly in my RV-10. My d aughter was 3 when she went on her first flight in my RV-4. But that was af ter having her sit in the plane a lot and did 2-3 taxi trips around the airp ort with her. Like others have said, it's more about the child and their comfort more than their age. -Mike Kraus RV-4 sold RV-10 flying KitFox SS7 building Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:38 PM, David Schaefer wrote: > OK .. I see all the pictures on VansAirforce of folks flying their young g randchildren. What's everyone's opinion on the right age to take them for t heir first flight? > > Thanks... > > David W. Schaefer > RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" > TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT HX EFI S > Now building N383DS - Zenith CH-750! > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:48 AM PST US From: Dean Pichon Subject: RE: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren I started flying my kids in my -4 when they turned 6 and only after they as ked for a ride. When they were 5 they flew several times in my friend's Na vion. The minute my -4 blew by them=2C they wanted to fly in Daddy's plane . Now=2C all they want to do is aileron rolls everytime we fly. Regards=2C From: n142ds@gmail.com Subject: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren OK .. I see all the pictures on VansAirforce of folks flying their young gr andchildren. What's everyone's opinion on the right age to take them for t heir first flight? Thanks... David W. Schaefer RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs=2C Hartzell Blended Airfoil=2C GRT HX EFIS Now building N383DS - Zenith CH-750! ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:05:34 AM PST US Subject: RV-List: FL> Wing VAF Fly-in From: Ollie Washburn (FL) Loves Landing Airpark (97FL) Annual BBQ FL. Wing VAF Annual BBQ lunch hosted by EAA Chapter 1236 This is the big one and we also invite our GA neighbors to come on down. Saturday, Nov 3rd.@ Loves Landing Airpark (97FL)--122.9--N28*57.42 W081*53.29--- 9.8 nm N of Leesburg (LEE) Rain date-- Sun. Nov 4th. Coffee and doughnuts for early birds and lunch at noon. Ollies FamousPork BBQ Hamburgers,Hotdogs & all the fixins. No planned events, just lots of hanger bs All fly-ins welcome. $10.00 donation, drinks incl. *Note-This is private airpark. Land at your own risk ollie6a@gmail.com 352 750 5312 Cell 352 205 9375 -- >From Central Florida, Ollie ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:29:55 AM PST US From: Hopperdhh@aol.com Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren David, I agree that kids should ask to be taken for a ride. If its their idea it will be a lot more meaningful to them. I think anything less than 5 or 6 is too young -- they'll probably not remember it when they grow a little older, so why take the risk? Now here's the problem I have with my 8 year old (step) grandson. He really wants to go for a ride, but his mom forbids it. In fact my step-son is now also forbidden to fly with me. I asked why and she said there was nothing to keep the plane in the air! This girl has a college degree, and flies commercially, so I doubt if that's the real reason. I admit that statistically flying commercially is safer, so I'm sure that's why. I think if my grandson wants to fly badly enough he will, eventually. But I can't go against his mother's wishes, er, orders. Dan RV-7A N766DH AntiSplat nose gear brace on order. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:45:25 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren From: mr.gsun@gmail.com I've been flying my grandson around since he was about 10 months old. He is now 2 1/2 and talks about airplanes, helicopters, tractors and pickups. He is anxious to go with me on any flight he can and when stuck on the ground watching my "bounce" and go landing practice, he calls out "Grandfather!" whenever he sees me come around. He sits in a standard car-seat that I support about 8" up in my cargo area behind the seats. I installed a seat belt that holds him and the car-seat in place and the belts of the car-seat hold him from climbing out. He can see out, kick the back of our seats for fun and we have made a number of trips various places. Longest flight was about two hours and he did fine. He usually falls asleep after 15 minutes and often doesn't wake up until I shut down in front of the hangar. We use a small Bose Quiet Comfort headset with the wire removed and a bit more padding up top. We made a game out of putting it on so he can put it on while in the seat. I maintain, however, that it isn't near as noisy back there but his grandmother insists on the headset. He keeps growing as we continue to feed him so I suspect he will grow out of his carseat back there in a couple years. Perhaps that RV10 is in our future or I'll get to teach him to fly my RV7..... do not archive On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Michael Kraus wrote: > My kids are 5 and 7 now, and I take them flying regularly in my RV-10. My > daughter was 3 when she went on her first flight in my RV-4. But that was > after having her sit in the plane a lot and did 2-3 taxi trips around the > airport with her. > > Like others have said, it's more about the child and their comfort more > than their age. > > -Mike Kraus > RV-4 sold > RV-10 flying > KitFox SS7 building > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:38 PM, David Schaefer wrote: > > OK .. I see all the pictures on VansAirforce of folks flying their young > grandchildren. What's everyone's opinion on the right age to take them for > their first flight? > > Thanks... > > David W. Schaefer > RV-6A N142DS "Nerdgasm" > TMX-IO360 Dual-LightSpeed Plasma IIIs, Hartzell Blended Airfoil, GRT HX > EFIS > Now building N383DS - Zenith CH-750! > > * > > ================================== > /www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > ===================================cs.com > ===================================matronics.com/contribution > ================================== > * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:16:07 PM PST US From: Lyle Peterson Subject: Re: RV-List: Flying the Grandchildren While these experiences aren't aviation related they do indicate the ability of young children to accommodate the situation. Many years ago I was driving semi tractor trailer over the road. My friend had an Autocar that was a bit noisy and dirty. My wife and I put our infant daughter in her lap and went down the road in the Autocar. Within a very few minutes our daughter was asleep. She was comfortable. More recently I took my then 7 year old great-grandaughter for a ride on my motorcycle. We went around a few city blocks with me be careful not to frighten her. (A huge mistake made by many riders giving a first ride to someone.) When i felt she was comfortable I cranked it up for some short bursts. As much as one can on city streets. When I turned in to our driveway, which is quite long, she said, "Go fast like you did before." Kids are so much more adventurous that adults. No worries. On 9/20/2012 2:44 PM, mr.gsun@gmail.com wrote: > I've been flying my grandson around since he was about 10 months old. > He is now 2 1/2 and talks about airplanes, helicopters, tractors and > pickups. He is anxious to go with me on any flight he can and when > stuck on the ground watching my "bounce" and go landing practice, he > calls out "Grandfather!" whenever he sees me come around. He sits in > a standard car-seat that I support about 8" up in my cargo area behind > the seats. I installed a seat belt that holds him and the car-seat in > place and the belts of the car-seat hold him from climbing out. He > can see out, kick the back of our seats for fun and we have made a > number of trips various places. Longest flight was about two hours > and he did fine. He usually falls asleep after 15 minutes and often > doesn't wake up until I shut down in front of the hangar. We use a > small Bose Quiet Comfort headset with the wire removed and a bit more > padding up top. We made a game out of putting it on so he can put it > on while in the seat. I maintain, however, that it isn't near as > noisy back there but his grandmother insists on the headset. He keeps > growing as we continue to feed him so I suspect he will grow out of > his carseat back there in a couple years. Perhaps that RV10 is in our > future or I'll get to teach him to fly my RV7..... > > do not archive > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 4:22 AM, Michael Kraus > > wrote: > > My kids are 5 and 7 now, and I take them flying regularly in my > RV-10. My daughter was 3 when she went on her first flight in my > RV-4. But that was after having her sit in the plane a lot and > did 2-3 taxi trips around the airport with her. > > Like others have said, it's more about the child and their comfort > more than their age. > > -Mike Kraus > RV-4 sold > RV-10 flying > KitFox SS7 building > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:38 PM, David Schaefer > wrote: > >> OK .. I see all the pictures on VansAirforce of folks flying >> their young grandchildren. What's everyone's opinion on the >> right age to take them for their first flight? >> >> Thanks... >> >> David W. 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