---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 10/05/12: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:37 AM - Re: logging PIC time, was Almost an RV question..... (Glen Matejcek) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:32 AM PST US From: Glen Matejcek Subject: RV-List: Re: logging PIC time, was Almost an RV question..... HI Guys- This is a subject area that triggers heated debates all the way up to heavy cockpits. The source guidance for this particular issue can be found in FAR 61.51(e)(1)(iii) which states, paraphrased, that when ACTING as PIC you can log PIC. While the statemant that there is only one PIC aboard is correct, it is also correct that when one pilot (the real PIC) is under the hood in VMC, he can not fully discharge his duties. The safety pilot is an FAR required position and can only be filled by someone with the appropriate category and class ratings. Per the reg cited above, the safety pilot gets to log PIC and it does indeed count towards his next certificate or rating. Tailwheel and complex / high perf endorsements are not an issue. If you guys think this stuff is sticky, get a couple heavy pilots to discuss logging bunk time on multi-crew long haul flights... however, not only is the black ink on the white page, but the FAA website has a section for legal interpretations that spells out how DC views these issues. Subject: RV-List: Almost an RV question..... >From: mr.gsun@gmail.com > >Hi folks, here is the scenario > >I'm a low time RV7 pilot wanting to stay IFR current in my IFR legal RV7 >(tailwheel) with the Dynon Skyview installed > >My hangar neighbor is a newly minted IFR pilot wanting to build time >towards his commercial rating. He flies a complex, High performance Sokata >Trinidad. He does not have a tailwheel endorsment and I do not have either >a complex or high performance endorsement. > >Can either of us log time as safety pilot for the other while the other is >under the hood? Can either of us legally be safety pilots for each other? >(Maybe that is the same question) > >If I went and got an endorsement in a complex airplane (the local flight >school does not have a complex, High Performance anymore) and flew with him >as safety pilot could any of that time be logged towards the requirement >for complex time for my commercial rating? > >Thanks in advance for the answers..... > Glen Matejcek ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.