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Subject: | Re: logging PIC time, was Almost an RV question..... |
So, if I am in a complex aircraft acting as PIC because I am the safety
pilot, can I count that as some of the complex time needed for my
commercial? Even though I am not checked out, nor insured to fly that
aircraft? I am, however, current in my RV7 with a current class II
medical.
Greg
On Oct 5, 2012 1:41 AM, "Glen Matejcek" <aerobubba@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> HI Guys-
>
> This is a subject area that triggers heated debates all the way up to
> heavy cockpits. The source guidance for this particular issue can be found
> in FAR 61.51(e)(1)(iii) which states, paraphrased, that when ACTING as PIC
> you can log PIC. While the statemant that there is only one PIC aboard is
> correct, it is also correct that when one pilot (the real PIC) is under the
> hood in VMC, he can not fully discharge his duties. The safety pilot is an
> FAR required position and can only be filled by someone with the
> appropriate category and class ratings. Per the reg cited above, the
> safety pilot gets to log PIC and it does indeed count towards his next
> certificate or rating. Tailwheel and complex / high perf endorsements are
> not an issue.
>
> If you guys think this stuff is sticky, get a couple heavy pilots to
> discuss logging bunk time on multi-crew long haul flights... however, not
> only is the black ink on the white page, but the FAA website has a section
> for legal interpretations that spells out how DC views these issues.
>
> Subject: RV-List: Almost an RV question.....
> >From: mr.gsun@gmail.com
> >
> >Hi folks, here is the scenario
> >
> >I'm a low time RV7 pilot wanting to stay IFR current in my IFR legal RV7
> >(tailwheel) with the Dynon Skyview installed
> >
> >My hangar neighbor is a newly minted IFR pilot wanting to build time
> >towards his commercial rating. He flies a complex, High performance
> Sokata
> >Trinidad. He does not have a tailwheel endorsment and I do not have
> either
> >a complex or high performance endorsement.
> >
> >Can either of us log time as safety pilot for the other while the other is
> >under the hood? Can either of us legally be safety pilots for each other?
> >(Maybe that is the same question)
> >
> >If I went and got an endorsement in a complex airplane (the local flight
> >school does not have a complex, High Performance anymore) and flew with
> him
> >as safety pilot could any of that time be logged towards the requirement
> >for complex time for my commercial rating?
> >
> >Thanks in advance for the answers.....
> >
>
>
> Glen Matejcek
>
>
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