---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 10/08/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:26 AM - Re: logging PIC time, was Almost an RV question..... (Glen Matejcek) 2. 11:24 AM - Paper, Paper, Paper (Robin Marks) 3. 11:36 AM - Re: RV10-List: Paper, Paper, Paper (Lyle Peterson) 4. 12:48 PM - Re: Paper, Paper, Paper (Doug Weiler) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:26:03 AM PST US From: Glen Matejcek Subject: RV-List: Re: logging PIC time, was Almost an RV question..... This is a perfect example of how things can get twisted and even heated in the pilot lounge. > >NO you cannot use the complex time toward your Commercial rating. The Comm >ercial rating requires that you have 10-hours of instruction in complex air >planes. The question asked referred to using safety pilot time towards a commercial certificate. Nowhere was it suggested that time be used to meet the instruction rec'd requirements. FAR 61.129 specifies, among many other things, that the applicant have 250 hrs as pilot. Safety pilot is pilot time. Of those 250 hrs, 50 need to be in airplanes, and the aircraft in question is indeed an airplane. Further, of those 250 hrs of pilot time, only 100 needs to be PIC. Chew on that one for a minute! Also, 50 hrs of cross country are required with various sub-requirements, as well as night flight requirements. So, we can see there are many subcategories of the flight time requirement for a commercial ticket, and time spent as safety pilot can be used to fulfill multiple of them. Have you got glider time? Balloon? Rotorcraft? Those all count, too. If you read the reg, you might notice that 'single engine' is rarely mentioned. Been sitting right seat in an old warbird, logging SIC under part 91? That counts, as well. Glen Matejcek ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:00 AM PST US From: Robin Marks Subject: RV-List: Paper, Paper, Paper I was taking a commercial flight back from the east coast yesterday. While boarding the plane I was holding in line at the door watching the pilot fli pping through the large scale version of a Pilots Guide (to his left) and i nserting various colored tabs on different pages. I also saw a few pages fa ll out. He then refocused his attention to a scroll of pin feed paper print ed on what I recall as a Dot Matrix printer which was state of the art in t he 1970's. I had to snap a photo to share. Unnoticed at the time was the pa per on the dash, the paper on the center console & the book on the far righ t. #Old-school [Description: C:\Users\Robin\Desktop\Paper.JPG] Robin ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:19 AM PST US From: Lyle Peterson Subject: RV-List: Re: RV10-List: Paper, Paper, Paper ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:44 PM PST US From: Doug Weiler Subject: Re: RV-List: Paper, Paper, Paper ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.