---------------------------------------------------------- RV-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/12/13: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:32 AM - Re: External Flight Plans - Dynon Skyview/Garmin 696 (Jack) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:32:20 AM PST US From: "Jack" Subject: RE: RV-List: External Flight Plans - Dynon Skyview/Garmin 696 Matt, Thank you for sharing this Dynon email exchange with list readers. I act as the newsletter editor for EAA chapter 166 (KHFD) and am (very slowly) building a -9A. I would like your permission to use some excerpts from your exchange in an article for our newsletter as a cautionary note for builders not conversant with the potential pitfalls of systems integration. I spent many years at sea and learned early on to treat all electronics and buoyage as "aids to navigation" only rather than a 'magic wand' that would get you home no matter what. Batteries fail; buoys get moved off station by ice flows or other weather phenomena; electronic components go out of spec for no apparent reason, etc. When lack of common 'lingua franca' (e.g. EDI) between devices, non-adherence to APIs, or lack of an API in the first place, get tossed into the mix, bad things can happen as you point out. Again, thanks for sharing. Regards, Jack Jack Hilditch Newsletter Editor EAA Chapter 166 Hartford, CT (KHFD) Cell 860-729-6948 wmjack@t3cs.net _____ From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2013 5:55 PM Subject: RV-List: External Flight Plans - Dynon Skyview/Garmin 696 Dear Listers, Below is a dialog that I'm currently having with Dynon technical support regarding the support for External Flight Plans on the Dynon Skyview. I have a Garmin 696 connected serially to the Dynon and use it for primary GPS positional data. I would like to also have it transfer the current flight plan data as its a LOT easier to look up remote airports, etc. on the Garmin696. But, for some reason, the flight plan data doesn't seem to propagate to the Skyview; I can only assume because the Dynon is ignoring the GPRMB NMEA0182 data fields. In contrast, I have a King Skymap IIIc connected to the GRT HXs in the RV-8 (for testing) and I am able to easily get external flight plan data from the Skymap to the GRT HX over the serial line (see screen shots) Finally, with the new ADSB receiver on the Skyview, I'm no longer getting Traffic data on the Garmin 696. With just the Mode S transponder, I get traffic targets when I'm in traffic areas so the TIS data link (Skyvew->Garmin696) seems to be working. But as soon as I enable the ADSB receiver, I no longer get the traffic on the Garmin 696 even though the ADSB traffic is showing up on the Skyview Map and PDF displays. Below are some composite screen shots I made for Dynon with embedded comments and documentation to describe what I'm seeing. I thought I'd share with the rest of the group in case someone maybe had some feedback or thoughts. - Matt Dralle RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen" http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap... RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer" http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log Status: 120+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode At 10:36 AM 2/1/2013 Friday, you wrote: Matt, Please do send some screen shots. We will fly a flight plan from the Garmin. Do you see the CDI on the HSI? I can make sense out of this with a picture. Mike H Dynon Avionics Technical Support support@dynonavionics.com Phone: 425-402-0433 - 07:00-17:00 Pacific weekdays --- -----Original Message----- From: "Matt Dralle" Cc: "dralle@matronics.com" , "michael Woolson" Subject: Re: (Case 117228) Garmin GPS696 Input to Skyview >Hi Mike, > >That's not what I'm talking about. What I mean is when I go into the Garmin and enter in a flight plan. For example, KLVK to KEDU to KMRY. These destinations are being transmitted by the Garmin over the NMEA 0183 serial output but the Skyview isn't using them. I have to go into the Skyview and reenter the destinations. > >In contrast, on my Garmin to GRT HX installation, if I have a flight plan entered into the Garmin, that information is picked up and used by the GRT HX. If I don't have a flight plan on the Garmin, then the GRT HX uses whatever I enter in on the GRT HX. I can sent you some screen shots if you want. > >Matt > >At 09:26 AM 2/1/2013 Friday, you wrote: > Hi Mike, Please see that attached two images. The first describes what I'm seeing on the Dynon/Garmin696 and the second shows what I'm getting on the GRT HX/SkymapIIIc. The third shot is of my Dynon and Garmin 696 configuration. Note that with the Dynon, there's no external flight plan data utiliation. Note on the GRT, there is full external flight plan data utilization. I've included the NMEA0183 data strings that include the flight plan data. Also note, the lack of ADSB traffic on the Garmin 696 when the ADSB is enabled. With the ADSB DISABLED, the Mode S traffic appears. Emacs! Emacs! 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