RV-List Digest Archive

Tue 03/19/13


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:26 AM - Re: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6 (Panama Red)
     2. 06:56 AM - internet sales taxes coming? (Vince Frazier)
     3. 07:12 AM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph E. Capen)
     4. 10:31 AM - Sales tax (James Bean)
     5. 12:45 PM - =?utf-8?Q?FW:_RV-6_Vertical_Tail_and_Rudder? (R.C. Flyer)
     6. 01:40 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph Finch)
     7. 02:36 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (RV6 Flyer)
     8. 02:58 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Sherman Butler)
     9. 03:46 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph Finch)
    10. 09:21 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Dave Saylor)
    11. 09:37 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Linn)
    12. 10:00 PM - Battery caused corrosion (Ed Holyoke)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:26:09 AM PST US
    From: "Panama Red" <panamared505@brier.net>
    Subject: Re: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6
    I have been flying my IO 360 RV-6 for 12 years and numerous RV 6s before that. I have never had a problem with not enough rudder on take off or otherwise. I do agressive slips, so aggressive that the Internnational Aerobatic Club calls them knife edge maneuvers. If you have the small rudder, I wouldn't worry about it. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: R.C. Flyer To: rv-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:34 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6 What=99s this about a larger tail for the -6? I=99m currently working on my Fuse for the -6 and it=99s a Tail dragger. I have the original Tail Section that I built several years ago. How critical is this new tail mod for the tail wheel version? Is this info on the web sight or can it be found here on the forum? R.C. From: Marty Helller Sent: =8EMarch=8E =8E16=8E, =8E2013 =8E6=8E:=8E43=8E =8EPM To: rv-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV-List: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6 You might want to advise your buddy that Vans made a larger tail for a reason: especially if its a tail dragger or he puts in an engine larger than the 160 hp. Even with the Rv-7 larger tail, I can't add full power until the tail is off the ground... Marty RV-7 75 hours


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    Time: 06:56:08 AM PST US
    Subject: internet sales taxes coming?
    From: Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>
    Ralph, I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of state. As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities. There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere. Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together. Thanks, Vince Frazier Flyboy Accessories 3963 Caborn Road North Mount Vernon, IN 47620 812-464-1839 1-888-8FLYBOY 1-888-835-9269 www.flyboyaccessories.com


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    Time: 07:12:32 AM PST US
    From: "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    Sorry if my post was taken that way - that was not the intent. I still plan to purchase online - and from you if there is a product that fits my needs. I really like the variety of things that are available - just not the future hidden alligators. I actually have things out there too...and a day job. We may have been 'violently' agreeing! Again - no harm intended - hope this clears things. Ralph -----Original Message----- From: Vince Frazier Sent: Mar 19, 2013 9:54 AM Subject: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming? Ralph, I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of state. As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities. There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere. Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together. Thanks, Vince Frazier Flyboy Accessories 3963 Caborn Road North Mount Vernon, IN 47620 812-464-1839 1-888-8FLYBOY 1-888-835-9269 www.flyboyaccessories.com


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    Time: 10:31:18 AM PST US
    From: James Bean <jimbean6@optimum.net>
    Subject: Sales tax
    hi all, The way I handled the tax was to register the plane as soon as I bought the kit. Then I reported the purchase and paid the tax on the kit. When the registration came through to the state (NY) they showed it already paid. So I avoided paying double tax on the rest of the parts (about 75% of the final cost.). regards Jim Bean RV-8 N99JA


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    Time: 12:45:33 PM PST US
    Subject: =?utf-8?Q?FW:_RV-6_Vertical_Tail_and_Rudder?
    From: "R.C. Flyer" <smirdrv@hotmail.com>
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    Time: 01:40:00 PM PST US
    From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    "I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive." You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales tax online won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once a year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due. That doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys wouldn't like it. As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally, I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states, but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is, eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate final costs, given one's address. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>wrote: > Ralph, > > I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that > internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To > me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about > before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online > or out of state. > > As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana > state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I > don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities. > > There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% > of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day > job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere. > > Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together. > > Thanks, > > Vince Frazier > Flyboy Accessories > 3963 Caborn Road North > Mount Vernon, IN 47620 > 812-464-1839 > 1-888-8FLYBOY > 1-888-835-9269 > www.flyboyaccessories.com > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 02:36:59 PM PST US
    From: RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer@hotmail.com>
    Subject: internet sales taxes coming?
    >From what I am reading it says: "... and the politics of the moment suggest the bill is barely keeping its head above water." Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/supporters-of-internet-sal es-tax-battle-headwinds-89040.html#ixzz2O1X1miKH I agree that we do not want to see an internet tax but we may be over react ing at this time. I am putting my efforts in to protecting my U.S. 2nd Amendment Rights at th is time. I want less Gov't not more. Gary A. Sobek "My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C 2=2C694+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA =0A


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    Time: 02:58:15 PM PST US
    From: Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    =0A=0AHello,=0A=0AI think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the langua ge is a too harsh for some legitimate points.=0A=0AI have a small engineeri ng company on the side, and the NM tax table has about 30 different rates. -This is a small state, and I suspect that some states may have 100s of d ifferent rates. -The big on-line sellers have the capacity to economicall y break it down bt zip code, while small sellers this will be a burden.=0A =0AHowever, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it s hould be simple.-=0A=0ADo Not archive.=0A-=0ASherman Butler=0ARV-7a Win gs=0AN497GS reserved=0ACarlsbad, NM=0A=0A=0A_______________________________ _=0A From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics. com =0ASent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: intern et sales taxes coming?=0A =0A=0A"I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out =0Athat internet sales taxes WILL make your onl ine purchases more =0Aexpensive."=0A=0AYou don't get it. You assumed that e verybody on the RV List is a far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales tax online won't make my purchases more expensi ve, because I pay them once a year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters wi ll have to pay what's due. That doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, bu t I can see how you guys wouldn't like it.=0A=0AAs a state water engineer w ho helps support California's trillion dollar economy, I fully understand h ow you expect government employees to work for free. I won't ask your forgi veness for telling you you're nuts. Personally, I object to $2 trillion war s based on lies, and an enormously bloated Pentagon budget, and the red sta tes sucking dollars from the blue states, but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is, eliminating tax cheaters is to e veryone's benefit, and it will be no burden to online businesses because th e free market will ensure (if it hasn't already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate final costs, given one's address.=0A=0A =0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail .com> wrote:=0A=0ARalph,=0A>=0A>I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow w ronged you by pointing out that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive.- To me, this seems like a topic that homebuilde rs would want to know about before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of state.=0A>=0A>As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana state governments already exp ect me to work for free.- Forgive me if I don't want to do that for 49 ot her states and countless municipalities. =0A>=0A>There is no need to threat en me with the loss of your business.- Like 99% of other small, homebuild er related businesses, I have a full time day job.- I won't starve if you buy elsewhere.=0A>=0A>Thanks to all who supported my email.- We're all i n this together.=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks,=0A>=0A>Vince Frazier=0A>Flyboy Accessor ies=0A>3963 Caborn Road North=0A>Mount Vernon, IN 47620=0A>812-464-1839=0A> 1-888-8FLYBOY=0A>1-888-835-9269=0A>www.flyboyaccessories.com=0A>=0A>t="_b lank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.co ======


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    Time: 03:46:41 PM PST US
    From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    Let's insert a bit of thought here. "Several private firms maintain databases of the sales tax rates in the 9,600 local jurisdictions in the United States that levy them" http://taxfoundation.org/article/sales-tax-rates-major-us-cities You think every small business will have to laboriously research all those jurisdictions on their own? Really? Companies will offer very cheap, maybe even free, links that will take an address or zip+9 code, and return the sales tax rate. Job done for online tax calculating. Some equally simple system will be offered to disburse the taxes to each state's treasury. all via the Internet. This thread isn't about saving purchasers money, because most states (I assume) required the taxes to be paid anyway. Nor is this about the heavy additional "*paperwork*" of *online *transactions (a contradiction). No, it's about helping cheaters continue to cheat. Tax criminals, congratulating themselves on how patriotic they are. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > I think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the language is a too harsh > for some legitimate points. > > I have a small engineering company on the side, and the NM tax table has > about 30 different rates. This is a small state, and I suspect that some > states may have 100s of different rates. The big on-line sellers have the > capacity to economically break it down bt zip code, while small sellers > this will be a burden. > > However, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it > should be simple. > > Do Not archive. > > Sherman Butler > RV-7a Wings > N497GS reserved > Carlsbad, NM > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com> > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM > *Subject:* Re: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming? > > "I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out > that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive." > > You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a > far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales > tax online won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once > a year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due. > That doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys > wouldn't like it. > > As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar > economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for > free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally, > I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated > Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states, > but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is, > eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden > to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't > already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate > final costs, given one's address. > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>wrote: > > Ralph, > > I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that > internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To > me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about > before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online > or out of state. > > As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana > state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I > don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities. > > There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% > of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day > job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere. > > Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together. > > Thanks, > > Vince Frazier > Flyboy Accessories > 3963 Caborn Road North > Mount Vernon, IN 47620 > 812-464-1839 > 1-888-8FLYBOY > 1-888-835-9269 > www.flyboyaccessories.com > > * > > t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > * > > > *=============== > * > > > * > > * > >


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    Time: 09:21:25 PM PST US
    From: Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    It is frustrating, as a brick-and-mortar establishment, to hear people gripe about having to collect sales tax. I lose at least some business to online retailers, because, as Ralph points out, it's a lot easier for their customers to neglect paying sales tax than it is for mine. Sometimes the difference in price is less than the tax I have to add. I think we should all vote for lower taxes, and I will next time I see it on the ballot. But in California at least, I'm in the minority. "They" (the other voters) just raised our own sales tax by 0.25%. Ralph, I think many, if not most, don't realize that (in California at least), there is a legal requirement to pay sales tax on out-of-state purchases. It's pretty easy not to pay it-- no one really asks for it-- but the requirement is still there. However, the Franchise Tax Board is beginning to pursue things like engine overhauls, major airframe work, and other big-ticket items purchased out of state. Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody? Dave Saylor 831-750-0284 CL On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com> wrote: > Let's insert a bit of thought here. > > "Several private firms maintain databases of the sales tax rates in the > 9,600 local jurisdictions in the United States that levy them" > http://taxfoundation.org/article/sales-tax-rates-major-us-cities > > You think every small business will have to laboriously research all those > jurisdictions on their own? Really? Companies will offer very cheap, maybe > even free, links that will take an address or zip+9 code, and return the > sales tax rate. Job done for online tax calculating. Some equally simple > system will be offered to disburse the taxes to each state's treasury. all > via the Internet. > > This thread isn't about saving purchasers money, because most states (I > assume) required the taxes to be paid anyway. Nor is this about the heavy > additional "paperwork" of online transactions (a contradiction). No, it's > about helping cheaters continue to cheat. Tax criminals, congratulating > themselves on how patriotic they are. > > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> >> Hello, >> >> I think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the language is a too harsh >> for some legitimate points. >> >> I have a small engineering company on the side, and the NM tax table has >> about 30 different rates. This is a small state, and I suspect that some >> states may have 100s of different rates. The big on-line sellers have the >> capacity to economically break it down bt zip code, while small sellers this >> will be a burden. >> >> However, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it >> should be simple. >> >> Do Not archive. >> >> Sherman Butler >> RV-7a Wings >> N497GS reserved >> Carlsbad, NM >> ________________________________ >> From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com> >> To: rv-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM >> Subject: Re: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming? >> >> "I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out >> that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive." >> >> You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a >> far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales >> tax online won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once a >> year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due. That >> doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys wouldn't >> like it. >> >> As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar >> economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for >> free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally, >> I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated >> Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states, >> but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is, >> eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden >> to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't >> already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate final >> costs, given one's address. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Ralph, >> >> I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that >> internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To me, >> this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about before it >> happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of >> state. >> >> As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana >> state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't >> want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities. >> >> There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% >> of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day job. >> I won't starve if you buy elsewhere. >> >> Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Vince Frazier >> Flyboy Accessories >> 3963 Caborn Road North >> Mount Vernon, IN 47620 >> 812-464-1839 >> 1-888-8FLYBOY >> 1-888-835-9269 >> www.flyboyaccessories.com >> >> >> >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> >> =============== >> >> >> >> >> >> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > >


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    Time: 09:37:55 PM PST US
    From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: internet sales taxes coming?
    On 3/20/2013 12:19 AM, Dave Saylor wrote: snip > Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and > I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody? What caused the corrosion??? Battery acid??? Primer will only slow down battery acid. I'm going to fab a FG box to contain any battery acid, even though I'm going to use a sealed gel-cell battery. Cases crack and the battery isn't in a spot that's easy to check. Linn > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL


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    Time: 10:00:38 PM PST US
    From: Ed Holyoke <bicyclop@pacbell.net>
    Subject: Battery caused corrosion
    Are you still using those obsolete flooded batteries? I haven't seen any corrosion problems related to RG batteries. They have to overcharge badly before they will vent. Ed On 3/19/2013 9:19 PM, Dave Saylor wrote: > > Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and > I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody? > > Dave Saylor > 831-750-0284 CL > >




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