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1. 04:26 AM - Re: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6 (Panama Red)
2. 06:56 AM - internet sales taxes coming? (Vince Frazier)
3. 07:12 AM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph E. Capen)
4. 10:31 AM - Sales tax (James Bean)
5. 12:45 PM - =?utf-8?Q?FW:_RV-6_Vertical_Tail_and_Rudder? (R.C. Flyer)
6. 01:40 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph Finch)
7. 02:36 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (RV6 Flyer)
8. 02:58 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Sherman Butler)
9. 03:46 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Ralph Finch)
10. 09:21 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Dave Saylor)
11. 09:37 PM - Re: internet sales taxes coming? (Linn)
12. 10:00 PM - Battery caused corrosion (Ed Holyoke)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder for RV-6 |
I have been flying my IO 360 RV-6 for 12 years and numerous RV 6s before
that. I have never had a problem with not enough rudder on take off or
otherwise. I do agressive slips, so aggressive that the Internnational
Aerobatic Club calls them knife edge maneuvers.
If you have the small rudder, I wouldn't worry about it.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: R.C. Flyer
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 10:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV-List: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder
for RV-6
What=99s this about a larger tail for the -6? I=99m
currently working on my Fuse for the -6 and it=99s a Tail dragger.
I have the original Tail Section that I built several years ago. How
critical is this new tail mod for the tail wheel version? Is this info
on the web sight or can it be found here on the forum?
R.C.
From: Marty Helller
Sent: =8EMarch=8E =8E16=8E, =8E2013
=8E6=8E:=8E43=8E =8EPM
To: rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV-List: Looking for old style vertical stab and rudder
for RV-6
You might want to advise your buddy that Vans made a larger tail for
a reason: especially if its a tail dragger or he puts in an engine
larger than the 160 hp.
Even with the Rv-7 larger tail, I can't add full power until the tail
is off the ground...
Marty
RV-7 75 hours
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| Subject: | internet sales taxes coming? |
Ralph,
I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that
internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To
me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about
before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online
or out of state.
As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana state
governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't want
to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities.
There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99%
of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day
job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere.
Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together.
Thanks,
Vince Frazier
Flyboy Accessories
3963 Caborn Road North
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839
1-888-8FLYBOY
1-888-835-9269
www.flyboyaccessories.com
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
Sorry if my post was taken that way - that was not the intent.
I still plan to purchase online - and from you if there is a product that fits
my needs. I really like the variety of things that are available - just not the
future hidden alligators. I actually have things out there too...and a day
job.
We may have been 'violently' agreeing!
Again - no harm intended - hope this clears things.
Ralph
-----Original Message-----
From: Vince Frazier
Sent: Mar 19, 2013 9:54 AM
Subject: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming?
Ralph,
I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that internet
sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To me, this
seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about before it happens
due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of state.
As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana state governments
already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't want to do
that for 49 other states and countless municipalities.
There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99% of other
small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day job. I won't
starve if you buy elsewhere.
Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together.
Thanks,
Vince Frazier
Flyboy Accessories
3963 Caborn Road North
Mount Vernon, IN 47620
812-464-1839
1-888-8FLYBOY
1-888-835-9269
www.flyboyaccessories.com
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hi all,
The way I handled the tax was to register the plane as soon as I bought
the kit.
Then I reported the purchase and paid the tax on the kit.
When the registration came through to the state (NY) they showed it
already paid.
So I avoided paying double tax on the rest of the parts (about 75% of
the final cost.).
regards
Jim Bean
RV-8 N99JA
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
"I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that
internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive."
You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a far-right,
anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales tax online
won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once a year
anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due. That
doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys
wouldn't like it.
As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar
economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for
free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally,
I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated
Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states,
but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is,
eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden
to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't
already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate
final costs, given one's address.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>wrote:
> Ralph,
>
> I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that
> internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To
> me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about
> before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online
> or out of state.
>
> As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana
> state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I
> don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities.
>
> There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99%
> of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day
> job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere.
>
> Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Frazier
> Flyboy Accessories
> 3963 Caborn Road North
> Mount Vernon, IN 47620
> 812-464-1839
> 1-888-8FLYBOY
> 1-888-835-9269
> www.flyboyaccessories.com
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | internet sales taxes coming? |
>From what I am reading it says:
"... and the politics of the moment suggest the bill is barely keeping its
head above water."
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/03/supporters-of-internet-sal
es-tax-battle-headwinds-89040.html#ixzz2O1X1miKH
I agree that we do not want to see an internet tax but we may be over react
ing at this time.
I am putting my efforts in to protecting my U.S. 2nd Amendment Rights at th
is time. I want less Gov't not more.
Gary A. Sobek
"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell=2C
2=2C694+ Flying Hours So. CA=2C USA =0A
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
=0A=0AHello,=0A=0AI think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the langua
ge is a too harsh for some legitimate points.=0A=0AI have a small engineeri
ng company on the side, and the NM tax table has about 30 different rates.
-This is a small state, and I suspect that some states may have 100s of d
ifferent rates. -The big on-line sellers have the capacity to economicall
y break it down bt zip code, while small sellers this will be a burden.=0A
=0AHowever, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it s
hould be simple.-=0A=0ADo Not archive.=0A-=0ASherman Butler=0ARV-7a Win
gs=0AN497GS reserved=0ACarlsbad, NM=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0A From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>=0ATo: rv-list@matronics.
com =0ASent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM=0ASubject: Re: RV-List: intern
et sales taxes coming?=0A =0A=0A"I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow
wronged you by pointing out =0Athat internet sales taxes WILL make your onl
ine purchases more =0Aexpensive."=0A=0AYou don't get it. You assumed that e
verybody on the RV List is a far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like
yourself. Collecting sales tax online won't make my purchases more expensi
ve, because I pay them once a year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters wi
ll have to pay what's due. That doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, bu
t I can see how you guys wouldn't like it.=0A=0AAs a state water engineer w
ho helps support California's trillion dollar economy, I fully understand h
ow you expect government employees to work for free. I won't ask your forgi
veness for telling you you're nuts. Personally, I object to $2 trillion war
s based on lies, and an enormously bloated Pentagon budget, and the red sta
tes sucking dollars from the blue states, but that's just me. I don't post
here expressing those views. The point is, eliminating tax cheaters is to e
veryone's benefit, and it will be no burden to online businesses because th
e free market will ensure (if it hasn't already) that sales tax rates will
be instantly available to calculate final costs, given one's address.=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail
.com> wrote:=0A=0ARalph,=0A>=0A>I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow w
ronged you by pointing out that internet sales taxes WILL make your online
purchases more expensive.- To me, this seems like a topic that homebuilde
rs would want to know about before it happens due to the enormous amount of
money we all spend online or out of state.=0A>=0A>As a small businessman I
fully understand how the federal and Indiana state governments already exp
ect me to work for free.- Forgive me if I don't want to do that for 49 ot
her states and countless municipalities. =0A>=0A>There is no need to threat
en me with the loss of your business.- Like 99% of other small, homebuild
er related businesses, I have a full time day job.- I won't starve if you
buy elsewhere.=0A>=0A>Thanks to all who supported my email.- We're all i
n this together.=0A>=0A>=0A>Thanks,=0A>=0A>Vince Frazier=0A>Flyboy Accessor
ies=0A>3963 Caborn Road North=0A>Mount Vernon, IN 47620=0A>812-464-1839=0A>
1-888-8FLYBOY=0A>1-888-835-9269=0A>www.flyboyaccessories.com=0A>=0A>t="_b
lank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List=0Atp://forums.matronics.co
======
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
Let's insert a bit of thought here.
"Several private firms maintain databases of the sales tax rates in the
9,600 local jurisdictions in the United States that levy them"
http://taxfoundation.org/article/sales-tax-rates-major-us-cities
You think every small business will have to laboriously research all those
jurisdictions on their own? Really? Companies will offer very cheap, maybe
even free, links that will take an address or zip+9 code, and return the
sales tax rate. Job done for online tax calculating. Some equally simple
system will be offered to disburse the taxes to each state's treasury. all
via the Internet.
This thread isn't about saving purchasers money, because most states (I
assume) required the taxes to be paid anyway. Nor is this about the heavy
additional "*paperwork*" of *online *transactions (a contradiction). No,
it's about helping cheaters continue to cheat. Tax criminals,
congratulating themselves on how patriotic they are.
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the language is a too harsh
> for some legitimate points.
>
> I have a small engineering company on the side, and the NM tax table has
> about 30 different rates. This is a small state, and I suspect that some
> states may have 100s of different rates. The big on-line sellers have the
> capacity to economically break it down bt zip code, while small sellers
> this will be a burden.
>
> However, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it
> should be simple.
>
> Do Not archive.
>
> Sherman Butler
> RV-7a Wings
> N497GS reserved
> Carlsbad, NM
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
> *To:* rv-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM
> *Subject:* Re: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming?
>
> "I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out
> that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive."
>
> You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a
> far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales
> tax online won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once
> a year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due.
> That doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys
> wouldn't like it.
>
> As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar
> economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for
> free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally,
> I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated
> Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states,
> but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is,
> eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden
> to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't
> already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate
> final costs, given one's address.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> Ralph,
>
> I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that
> internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To
> me, this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about
> before it happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online
> or out of state.
>
> As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana
> state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I
> don't want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities.
>
> There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99%
> of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day
> job. I won't starve if you buy elsewhere.
>
> Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vince Frazier
> Flyboy Accessories
> 3963 Caborn Road North
> Mount Vernon, IN 47620
> 812-464-1839
> 1-888-8FLYBOY
> 1-888-835-9269
> www.flyboyaccessories.com
>
> *
>
> t="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List
> tp://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
It is frustrating, as a brick-and-mortar establishment, to hear people
gripe about having to collect sales tax. I lose at least some
business to online retailers, because, as Ralph points out, it's a lot
easier for their customers to neglect paying sales tax than it is for
mine. Sometimes the difference in price is less than the tax I have
to add. I think we should all vote for lower taxes, and I will next
time I see it on the ballot. But in California at least, I'm in the
minority. "They" (the other voters) just raised our own sales tax by
0.25%.
Ralph, I think many, if not most, don't realize that (in California at
least), there is a legal requirement to pay sales tax on out-of-state
purchases. It's pretty easy not to pay it-- no one really asks for
it-- but the requirement is still there. However, the Franchise Tax
Board is beginning to pursue things like engine overhauls, major
airframe work, and other big-ticket items purchased out of state.
Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and
I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody?
Dave Saylor
831-750-0284 CL
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com> wrote:
> Let's insert a bit of thought here.
>
> "Several private firms maintain databases of the sales tax rates in the
> 9,600 local jurisdictions in the United States that levy them"
> http://taxfoundation.org/article/sales-tax-rates-major-us-cities
>
> You think every small business will have to laboriously research all those
> jurisdictions on their own? Really? Companies will offer very cheap, maybe
> even free, links that will take an address or zip+9 code, and return the
> sales tax rate. Job done for online tax calculating. Some equally simple
> system will be offered to disburse the taxes to each state's treasury. all
> via the Internet.
>
> This thread isn't about saving purchasers money, because most states (I
> assume) required the taxes to be paid anyway. Nor is this about the heavy
> additional "paperwork" of online transactions (a contradiction). No, it's
> about helping cheaters continue to cheat. Tax criminals, congratulating
> themselves on how patriotic they are.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Sherman Butler <lsbrv7a@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think a time-out, take a breath is needed as the language is a too harsh
>> for some legitimate points.
>>
>> I have a small engineering company on the side, and the NM tax table has
>> about 30 different rates. This is a small state, and I suspect that some
>> states may have 100s of different rates. The big on-line sellers have the
>> capacity to economically break it down bt zip code, while small sellers this
>> will be a burden.
>>
>> However, I think those who haul the trash should get something, but it
>> should be simple.
>>
>> Do Not archive.
>>
>> Sherman Butler
>> RV-7a Wings
>> N497GS reserved
>> Carlsbad, NM
>> ________________________________
>> From: Ralph Finch <ralphmariafinch@gmail.com>
>> To: rv-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: RV-List: internet sales taxes coming?
>>
>> "I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out
>> that internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive."
>>
>> You don't get it. You assumed that everybody on the RV List is a
>> far-right, anti-government, pro-tax-cheat like yourself. Collecting sales
>> tax online won't make my purchases more expensive, because I pay them once a
>> year anyway. Instead, your fellow cheaters will have to pay what's due. That
>> doesn't bother me, in fact I welcome it, but I can see how you guys wouldn't
>> like it.
>>
>> As a state water engineer who helps support California's trillion dollar
>> economy, I fully understand how you expect government employees to work for
>> free. I won't ask your forgiveness for telling you you're nuts. Personally,
>> I object to $2 trillion wars based on lies, and an enormously bloated
>> Pentagon budget, and the red states sucking dollars from the blue states,
>> but that's just me. I don't post here expressing those views. The point is,
>> eliminating tax cheaters is to everyone's benefit, and it will be no burden
>> to online businesses because the free market will ensure (if it hasn't
>> already) that sales tax rates will be instantly available to calculate final
>> costs, given one's address.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM, Vince Frazier <vincefrazier@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Ralph,
>>
>> I'm sorry if you feel that I have somehow wronged you by pointing out that
>> internet sales taxes WILL make your online purchases more expensive. To me,
>> this seems like a topic that homebuilders would want to know about before it
>> happens due to the enormous amount of money we all spend online or out of
>> state.
>>
>> As a small businessman I fully understand how the federal and Indiana
>> state governments already expect me to work for free. Forgive me if I don't
>> want to do that for 49 other states and countless municipalities.
>>
>> There is no need to threaten me with the loss of your business. Like 99%
>> of other small, homebuilder related businesses, I have a full time day job.
>> I won't starve if you buy elsewhere.
>>
>> Thanks to all who supported my email. We're all in this together.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Vince Frazier
>> Flyboy Accessories
>> 3963 Caborn Road North
>> Mount Vernon, IN 47620
>> 812-464-1839
>> 1-888-8FLYBOY
>> 1-888-835-9269
>> www.flyboyaccessories.com
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: internet sales taxes coming? |
On 3/20/2013 12:19 AM, Dave Saylor wrote:
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> Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and
> I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody?
What caused the corrosion??? Battery acid??? Primer will only slow
down battery acid. I'm going to fab a FG box to contain any battery
acid, even though I'm going to use a sealed gel-cell battery. Cases
crack and the battery isn't in a spot that's easy to check.
Linn
>
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
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| Subject: | Battery caused corrosion |
Are you still using those obsolete flooded batteries? I haven't seen any
corrosion problems related to RG batteries. They have to overcharge
badly before they will vent.
Ed
On 3/19/2013 9:19 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
>
> Now...I just found some corrosion near the battery in my tail cone and
> I'm wishing I'd primed at least that area. Anybody?
>
> Dave Saylor
> 831-750-0284 CL
>
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