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Mon 04/08/13


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     1. 03:53 PM - locking up the plane (thomas sargent)
     2. 04:05 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Dale Ensing)
     3. 04:07 PM - Re: locking up the plane (G Lee)
     4. 04:08 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Tim Farrell)
     5. 04:18 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Stein Bruch)
     6. 04:20 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Robin Marks)
     7. 05:30 PM - Re: locking up the plane ()
     8. 06:24 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Linn)
     9. 06:27 PM - Re: locking up the plane (Tim Farrell)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:53:05 PM PST US
    Subject: locking up the plane
    From: thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com>
    It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane when they park it away from their home airport? I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? -- Tom Sargent RV-6A


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    Time: 04:05:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: locking up the plane
    From: Dale Ensing <densing@carolina.rr.com>
    I have a 6A slider. My lock is in the slider side panel and goes into the ro ller track. Works well, at least as a deterrent. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 8, 2013, at 18:52, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com> wrote: > It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane when th ey park it away from their home airport? > > I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 pieces to ac cept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. > > Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? > > -- > Tom Sargent > RV-6A > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= >


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    Time: 04:07:39 PM PST US
    From: "G Lee" <gene.lee@gte.net>
    Subject: locking up the plane
    I have the =98flimsy padlock=99 method on my 7. It works well to keep the =98honest=99 people out. Sadly, the dishonest ones will get in no matter what kind of lock you put on it From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: RV-List: locking up the plane It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane when they park it away from their home airport? I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? -- Tom Sargent RV-6A


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    Time: 04:08:56 PM PST US
    From: Tim Farrell <tim@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Re: locking up the plane
    Did anyone post the Cleaveland Tool option yet? http://www.cleavelandtool.com/Canopy-Lock-for-Sliders-6-7-8-9/productinfo/RVCL/#.UWNNrcqGeO0 On 4/8/2013 4:05 PM, Dale Ensing wrote: > I have a 6A slider. My lock is in the slider side panel and goes into > the roller track. Works well, at least as a deterrent. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 18:52, thomas sargent <sarg314@gmail.com > <mailto:sarg314@gmail.com>> wrote: > >> It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane >> when they park it away from their home airport? >> >> I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two >> flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 >> pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed >> pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. >> >> Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? >> >> -- >> Tom Sargent >> RV-6A >> * >> >> >> * > * > > > * -- Tim Farrell - Aircrafters - Owner/Manager - (831) 722-9141 - www.aircraftersLLC.com


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    Time: 04:18:02 PM PST US
    From: "Stein Bruch" <stein@steinair.com>
    Subject: locking up the plane
    Hi Tom, Ever since we had a customer get his airplane broken in to so the thieves could quickly steal his headsetsI quit locking my plane. You see, in the aforementioned case the customer with a 185 had recently installed all new glass (windows, windscreen, etc..) to the tune of over $5K on his plane; only to have the door wrecked and the window in the door broke so the thieves could steal a few hundred dollars in headsets! In our first RV6 we built in some good solid locks, but since then I just leave it unlocked. My opinion is now the best deterrent you can have is a nice quality canopy cover =93 it=99s likely that folks are looking for easy and fast targets and the canopy cover helps that out. Also note I had another very old friend many years ago with a C150 in an open hangar that got broke into; his solution was to drill a hole in both doors and run a rod all the way through the airplane with a padlock on it. All that did was mean the next time the criminals broke the window trying to get in! Just my 2 cents as usual. Cheers, Stein From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: RV-List: locking up the plane It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane when they park it away from their home airport? I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? -- Tom Sargent RV-6A


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    Time: 04:20:21 PM PST US
    From: Robin Marks <robin@PaintTheWeb.com>
    Subject: locking up the plane
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    Time: 05:30:52 PM PST US
    From: <kboatright1@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: locking up the plane
    I don=99t lock mine either. The canopy is easily a thousand dollars of parts, plus paint and another 100 hours of labor to rebuild if someone damaged it. My spare time is easily worth $100/hour to me, and shop rates are $75/hr, so a canopy replacement is pushing $10k in parts and labor (or opportunity cost). Add to that the downtime and the fact that the airplane is most likely to get broken into =9Con the road=9D where I=99d be SOL in many ways (away from home, no tools, no place to put the airplane, no place to do the work, etc) and I=99d much prefer that a thief just slide the canopy open and take what s/he wants. Kyle From: Stein Bruch Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 7:17 PM Subject: RE: RV-List: locking up the plane Hi Tom, Ever since we had a customer get his airplane broken in to so the thieves could quickly steal his headsetsI quit locking my plane. You see, in the aforementioned case the customer with a 185 had recently installed all new glass (windows, windscreen, etc..) to the tune of over $5K on his plane; only to have the door wrecked and the window in the door broke so the thieves could steal a few hundred dollars in headsets! In our first RV6 we built in some good solid locks, but since then I just leave it unlocked. My opinion is now the best deterrent you can have is a nice quality canopy cover =93 it=99s likely that folks are looking for easy and fast targets and the canopy cover helps that out. Also note I had another very old friend many years ago with a C150 in an open hangar that got broke into; his solution was to drill a hole in both doors and run a rod all the way through the airplane with a padlock on it. All that did was mean the next time the criminals broke the window trying to get in! Just my 2 cents as usual. Cheers, Stein From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of thomas sargent Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: RV-List: locking up the plane It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane when they park it away from their home airport? I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? -- Tom Sargent RV-6A http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-Listhttp://forums.matronics.comhttp ://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 06:24:13 PM PST US
    From: Linn <flying-nut@cfl.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: locking up the plane
    Go ahead and put on the flimsy lock. And buy a canopy cover. If they see something they want and can't get in easily they'll smash the canopy and get it. If they can't see in then that removes one of the criteria. the flimsy lock will keep out the 'mostly honest' and they'll go somewhere else. A simple cabinet lock will be much prettier ..... if you have somewhere to put it. Linn On 4/8/2013 6:52 PM, thomas sargent wrote: > It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane > when they park it away from their home airport? > > I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two > flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 > pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed > pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. > > Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? > > -- > Tom Sargent > RV-6A > * > > > * > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> >


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    Time: 06:27:56 PM PST US
    From: Tim Farrell <tim@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Re: locking up the plane
    Kyle, You are right. Replacing an 8 canopy takes a long time. We are very familiar with the process. It's more like 40-50 hours in our shop, but we are still talking about 1000s of dollars. Out of sight out of mind seems like the best approach to me as well. If there is one place I would want to have the lock, however, it would be at AirVenture or other airshows. That way people can see the inside of your amazing airplane, yet you keep out the occasional over curious person. -Tim On 4/8/2013 5:29 PM, kboatright1@comcast.net wrote: > I dont lock mine either. The canopy is easily a thousand dollars of > parts, plus paint and another 100 hours of labor to rebuild if someone > damaged it. My spare time is easily worth $100/hour to me, and shop > rates are $75/hr, so a canopy replacement is pushing $10k in parts and > labor (or opportunity cost). Add to that the downtime and the fact > that the airplane is most likely to get broken into on the road > where Id be SOL in many ways (away from home, no tools, no place to > put the airplane, no place to do the work, etc) and Id much prefer > that a thief just slide the canopy open and take what s/he wants. > Kyle > *From:* Stein Bruch <mailto:stein@steinair.com> > *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 7:17 PM > *To:* rv-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv-list@matronics.com> > *Subject:* RE: RV-List: locking up the plane > > Hi Tom, > > Ever since we had a customer get his airplane broken in to so the > thieves could quickly steal his headsetsI quit locking my plane. You > see, in the aforementioned case the customer with a 185 had recently > installed all new glass (windows, windscreen, etc..) to the tune of > over $5K on his plane; only to have the door wrecked and the window in > the door broke so the thieves could steal a few hundred dollars in > headsets! In our first RV6 we built in some good solid locks, but > since then I just leave it unlocked. My opinion is now the best > deterrent you can have is a nice quality canopy cover its likely > that folks are looking for easy and fast targets and the canopy cover > helps that out. Also note I had another very old friend many years > ago with a C150 in an open hangar that got broke into; his solution > was to drill a hole in both doors and run a rod all the way through > the airplane with a padlock on it. All that did was mean the next > time the criminals broke the window trying to get in! > > Just my 2 cents as usual. > > Cheers, > > Stein > > *From:*owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *thomas sargent > *Sent:* Monday, April 08, 2013 5:52 PM > *To:* rv-list > *Subject:* RV-List: locking up the plane > > It's kind of late to ask this, but how do folks secure their plane > when they park it away from their home airport? > > I built my 6A canopy latch exactly as shown in the plans - it's two > flimsy 1/8" pieces of aluminum. I could have drilled a hole in the 2 > pieces to accept a small padlock, but I never did. It seemed > pointless. The lock could snipped and my radios swiped in a minute. > > Does any one have any ideas/philosophy on this issue? > > > -- > Tom Sargent > > RV-6A > > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List* > ** > ** > *http://forums.matronics.com* > ** > ** > ** > ** > *http://www.matronics.com/contribution* > ** > ** > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > * > > > * -- Tim Farrell - Aircrafters - Owner/Manager - (831) 722-9141 - www.aircraftersLLC.com




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