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At 09:02 AM 5/6/2013 Monday, you wrote:
>--> RV8-List message posted by: Miller John <gengrumpy@aol.com>
>
>New to the list and I did not find the answer in the archives (RV10 builder now
building an 8).
>
>Asked Van's about cutting out the area between the lower and middle lightening
holes to improve access to that area, especially the attach bolts. KenS sent
me the following reply this morning: "We know that some builders have done this,
but we've never found the need. We have no engineering data one way or another
on such a mod so we have no basis for advice."
>
>Have any of the 8 builders done this modification and were you able to do any
engineering analysis on resulting tower?
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>I plan to cover this area with a plate using plate nuts as was described in one
of the forums.
>
>Thanks - John Miller (Grumpy)
John,
I wouldn't do it. My experience has been that the gear towers in the -8 are a
little underwhelming in terms of strength to begin with. The attached pictures
show what happened to my RV-8 when I got it sideways during a high speed taxi
incident. I had already landed and was making the turn off the runway onto
the taxiway. I wish there was some engineered, accepted way of beefing up these
gear towers. It would have been a lot less work than having to rebuild a whole
new fuselage...
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer Mode
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Subject: | Re: Top Aft Skin Question... |
Hi Matt,
Somewhere about four years ago the fuselage went from mostly pre-punched to
matched hole. The pre-punched needed a jig for assembly and the matched
hole did not. I got one of the first matched holes and it went together
pretty painlessly without jigging. The question is, which one for your
fuselage. I suspect your recent QB was done with the F-825-1 but you really
ought to check with Vans.
I understand perfectly the desire to get it perfect. I am busy polishing
my fuselage (199 LVK if you want to stop by) and every little scratch and
ding from assembly takes lots of work to polish out. There are a couple of
little dents that I haven't figured out how to fix and/or hind.
Have fun,
Michael Wynn
RV 8 Finishing
San Ramon, CA
In a message dated 5/4/2013 3:14:52 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
dralle@matronics.com writes:
--> RV-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Well, its unbelievable, but I was cleaning the shop this morning and
accidentally pushed the bandsaw (on a rollaround) into the back of the fuselage
and put a scratch and dent into the Aft Top Skin. It wasn't yet riveted,
but I was all finished and dimpled. I guess at least it wasn't the side of
the fuselage where replacement would be nearly impossible. But still.
Waa.
Anyway, I went to order a replacement today and put in the part number
"F-825" (F-825-1) is on the plans. I got two hits back:
TOP SKIN, AFT
F-825-1
$126.40
TOP SKIN, AFT -8
F-825PP
$124.00
What's the difference? The PP suffix probably means "pre-punched", but I
think the F-825-1 is probably pre-punched as well.
My fuselage is late model, order last year in QB form.
Thanks,
Matt
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Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 172+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
RV-6 #20916 N360EM "The Flyer"
http://www.mattsrv6.com - Matt's RV-6 Revitalization Log
Status: 150+ Hours Since Purchase - Upgrades Complete; Now In Full Flyer
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